Supermonkey92

Rows for retraction. Overhead press/Scaption for both upward rotation and posterior tilt. As much work stretching the upper traps/levator scapular and chest as you do exercising the weak muscles. Some neck work does wonders. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

I don't think Jorginho can take blame. The midfield doesn't work as a unit. Even in a 3 last year Sarri was conservative ON PURPOSE because it wasn't working early on. If kova and Jorginho are in a 2 and they press forward, the defence has to be about 5 metres behind and well positioned. It's like everyone is positioned to go forward without thinking 'what happens if we lose the ball now?' Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

He was forced to play 433 today but I hope it isn't long before he voluntarily chooses it for most games. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

I've still got my doubts but I was much more impressed with his first goal than his second. That first type of goal is exactly the positioning he needs to have. I'm already looking for James to come in which will probably help. His quality aside, he is a genuinely nice guy and I was happy for him, the winner obviously but for breaking his duck and running straight to Frank. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

433 needs to be our formation this season. Unfortunately doesn't suit him. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Plays like his age. Dangerous against Liverpool, a shadow against Leicester. More like the Leicester game today but with an assist and he got in better positions. Just made the wrong decisions. It'll be interesting to compare him with CHO who is 2 years younger. Mount has clearly played the most first team football, he's the most consistent. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

A double pivot is a huge difference than saying in a 3. It doesn't matter if it's Kante, Jorginho or Kovacic you have to drill it. All three take up the same positions they did last season, which is suicide. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Barkley in the 'free' 10 role in a 4231 is his best position. In a 3 man cm he's as average as he was last season. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

We've been defensiveness terrible in all matches bar the super cup Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

He doesn't. Like James does from how he talks. RLC seems to hover. Pulisic (it's early ofcourse) doesn't have any connection yet whatsoever. Hopefully he does after a whole season Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

I couldn't agree more. Sign a 5 year deal and ship him for big bucks in 2/3 years. If he fulfils his potential he'll be a top tier winger, but certainly replaceable with the money we'd get. He's not going to be robben/hazard/Neymar level. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

I think frank solves much of the problems by choosing the same formation as last year but by continuing to give players license to get forward which cesc was clear in saying sarri stopped after that arsenal home game. Against Liverpool we were great. Mainly because we were *balanced*. The problem is Frank's seems pretty set on the 4231 being his style, or the formation he wants this year with these players at least. If that's how it is top 6 is in trouble, I just hope this season is sacrificed for actual progression in the next. I'm actually a bit more chipper about Frank's chances on changing things though, he's a smart guy. Get that pivot working or drop it mate!! Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

I somewhat agree. But my main problem against Leicester was the midfield 2. They had no organisation when we had possession so when we lost it there was no barrier to Leicester waltzing up to our defence. Kante spent so much time in positions he would take last season in a three man midfield - almost on the right wing. We can't have that in a 4231. Some defensive improvements have happened since old Trafford. Azpi for instance is staying back whilst Emerson goes forward. But that's a much more straightforward change than getting the double pivot to work well in and out of possession. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

I'm already waiting for the 4231 to be dropped. That's the problem, not any individual player. Rudiger won't transform a defence that is getting run at 5 times a game Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Agree Jody Morris will be useless as a no2. I don't know how good of a coach lamps is on the training ground. I have doubts about it. All good managers have assistant coaches which bare a burden on the training ground. Avram grant got the guy from Barcelona. Jose had Steve Clarke. Ferguson had the Portuguese fella. Coaches like Pepe and sarri are kinda uncommon in how hands on they are on the training pitch. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

The cb choice won't make too much of a difference. The teams set up invites chances Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

C'mon now frank. The results are in and this 4231 doesn't cut it with these players. We were the better team than Liverpool with the 433. Let's keep it. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Let's hope he learns to change the formation Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

And that sums up thus game. Kova loses the ball in the final third and where is Kante? Right wing. Pivot isn't working people. Because there is no pivot [emoji26] Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Should have subbed kova on at half-time a controlled the game to 1-0 finish. Let's learn from this at least. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

I hope this 4231 is used against the bottom 10 and games at home. Maybe some dross in the CL group stage Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Pulisic has been disappointing today Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

It likes to me like Kante is taking up all the positions he did on midweek. But he had another 2 cms behind him. Today he only has Jorginho do when Leicester do pass our press we are in trouble. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

The striker switch won't affect the game at all Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

You need an extra cm frank. Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk