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[Dion 2,476]

  On 04/03/2013 at 03:47, Rmpr said:

Dogs need care and they are everything but indendent. Aint nobody got time for that...

Dogs can protect you and your house. Some dogs will give their lives for you. Cats would laugh when you're dying and take a shit on your dead body. If you want a companion you get a dog, if you want a cat you get a cat, because there's no other reason to choose them.

Dogs are always happy to see you come back and always welcoming to cuddling, cats only do things on their own terms and are useless as shit. Not saying I don't like cats, I do. But dogs are way better.

[Rmpr 8,977]

  On 04/03/2013 at 04:39, dionsa said:

Dogs can protect you and your house. Some dogs will give their lives for you. Cats would laugh when you're dying and take a shit on you dead body. If you want a companion you get a dog, if you want a cat you get a cat, because there's no other reason to choose them.

Dogs are always happy to see you come back and always welcoming to cuddling, cats only do things on their own terms and are useless as shit. Not saying I don't like cats, I do. But dogs are way better.

So what? They smell bad and they are like babies doing stupid things all the time. They also need an absurd amount of treatment and attention. Dogs will only sufer when you are not there and because of that you end up not doing some of the things you would like to do...

Yes, dogs are a much much better companion, but look at how many things you need to do for the pet. Cats demand nothing from their owner (I simply clean the box once a day, play with him for 40min/day and give him water and food), he lives his life and I live mine. He doesnt bother me with his smell or loud barking, but he doesnt protect me in return. You get what you work for!

If you want a companion, get a girlfriend. If you want a baby, just make one. Dogs are oftenly mistaken and replacing 'family spots' simply because it is damm easy to spend a few hundreds on the pet shop. A lot of people want dogs for the wrong reasons. I dont see it happening with cats.

I am not a cats' lover nor a dogs' hater. But my brother had a dog once and I can tell, I much prefer my new cat. Waaaay more good looking and no work at all!

[Rmpr 8,977]

I just fucking need to sleep but I cant!

This will be the third time I try to turn-off the iPad and stay looking at the celling waiting for me to magically fall asleep...

I bet it will be 5am when I finally sleep and I will have 2-3 hours before I go to class.

[Stingray 9,441]

  On 03/03/2013 at 23:32, CHOULO19 said:

Hahaha I literally just "LOL"ed at the first part to the annoyance of my sleeping parents

The second part is where we disagree mon frere. I don't believe there is a truth but rather truths to every matter that change according to the time frame, and to the place not unlike opinions. My problem with the correspondence theory of truth is that it tries to define the mysterious concept of truth with an even more vague concept of "a" reality. The thing is everyone perceives reality different than others according to what he wants it to be, as I'm sure you as a psychologist know (How do you know that I see blue the same way you do). And everyone is convinced that his reality is true. But if there are infinite "customized" realities, and no one can see the reality, does it really exist?

The second objection is that truth changes with time. To go back to your Hitler example, had the Germans won the war, the Nazi principle would be consider now "objective" around the world instead of the capitalist principles and the truth about the war would have been what the Nazis would have written instead of what the Allies have written or what actually happened (the truth at the moment any event happened)

Now before you give that look, let me ask you this: Is there a reason that truth should exist other than that we want it to? And if that is the case wouldn't that make truth (and 'a' reality for that matter) an illusion? Isn't that how Freud defined illusion? Not something that exists (is correct) or not but rather that it is a belief that is motivated by desire, regardless if it is true or not.

(Epistemology is truly the most interesting and confusing subject in metaphysics if not all of philosophy)

Now to go back to the original point, I believe that there will be infinite and ever-changing truths and objectiveness to any point, granted that the change is swift in the time interval of the event (or subject) and that the fluctuations in the truth decrease as you go further in the future, but since an ultimate truth does not exist or we can't turn around to see it (think of Plato's shadows on the cave wall analogy) we might as well discuss who is currently better between Hazard and Kagawa according to our current truths.

PS: I had just gotten into bed and was about to sleep when I saw your reply on my phone, and I couldn't resist but to get up, turn my laptop back on give this lengthy response If I am sleepy in class tomorrow, it's all your fault!

I'll andwer when I get back from work :-)

Ps: I am out of likes so couldnt like your post, sorry causeitis good!

Ps2: never said I was a psych:-) I graduated in philosophy actually but did and do my phd research in the crossvsevtion of philosophy and psychology. So yeah, I love that shit :-)

[Naked Mole Rat 437]

Dogs > cats obviously.

Cats aren't edible.

[The Skipper 20,593]

How much are cats in general? Cheaper than dogs? I adore dogs but like Rmpr said, they can be too much work sometimes. Having a cat, especially when you're a student, is a lot more efficient because they don't need the same loving/affection as dogs do.

I'm getting a cat in a couple of months with my house mates. I've decided.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

  On 04/03/2013 at 06:39, The Skipper said:

How much are cats in general? Cheaper than dogs? I adore dogs but like Rmpr said, they can be too much work sometimes. Having a cat, especially when you're a student, is a lot more efficient because they don't need the same loving/affection as dogs do.

I'm getting a cat in a couple of months with my house mates. I've decided.

Good call. Cats are a lot of fun. Go to an animal shelter and you can pick one up for cheap. I would actually advise getting two. Two is not really more work than one and they keep each other company when you're out and chase each other and that sort of thing. Cats on catnip is one of the best things ever.

[Spike 12,049]

  On 04/03/2013 at 06:39, The Skipper said:

How much are cats in general? Cheaper than dogs? I adore dogs but like Rmpr said, they can be too much work sometimes. Having a cat, especially when you're a student, is a lot more efficient because they don't need the same loving/affection as dogs do.

I'm getting a cat in a couple of months with my house mates. I've decided.

They also don't give the same love and affection as dogs do. If someone starts feeding your cat nicer food, it's no longer your cat. Evil animals. I hate them.

[The Skipper 20,593]

  On 04/03/2013 at 06:50, Spike Spiegel said:

They also don't give the same love and affection as dogs do. If someone starts feeding your cat nicer food, it's no longer your cat. Evil animals. I hate them.

[The Skipper 20,593]

  On 04/03/2013 at 06:45, TorontoChelsea said:

Good call. Cats are a lot of fun. Go to an animal shelter and you can pick one up for cheap. I would actually advise getting two. Two is not really more work than one and they keep each other company when you're out and chase each other and that sort of thing. Cats on catnip is one of the best things ever.

I'm just watching some YouTube videos on them now. In stitches

[Kezza 1,965]

I agree with spike. Dogs are far more loyal than cats! Cats look down on humans.

[We Hate Scouse 10,291]

Dogs and cats are pointless. Why would you want one? Just cost needless money for them to roam around your house so you can clean up after them and then they eventually die and you're sad and get a new one which cost even more money.

Just don't see the point.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

  On 04/03/2013 at 06:17, Stingray said:

I'll andwer when I get back from work :-)

Ps: I am out of likes so couldnt like your post, sorry causeitis good!

Ps2: never said I was a psych:-) I graduated in philosophy actually but did and do my phd research in the crossvsevtion of philosophy and psychology. So yeah, I love that shit :-)

No idea why I thought you had said you're a psychologist. Your phd subject is so awesome! I admit, I'm jealous. Majoring in philosophy is a dream of mine, but I had to do something "practical"

I await your reply, but I feel I'm at a disadvantage in this discussion. You're a professor and I'm just an amateur who's read a few philosophy books! Take it easy on me Sting

[SinineUltra 1,170]

It all depends. If you're an active person with a proper sized home for a dog, get a dog. They are great and loyal. But only take an animal if you're willing to put in the work and feed him, play with him. Animal won't be a side hobby, it will be a huge a part of your life. That's what makes it all so great. I love how sincere animals are, if they are angry, you will get bitten but never back-stabbed.

I own a cat, took her from the shelter and it has been like winning a jackpot. Golden character, she is very playful, affectionate and follows me around everywhere. Best part about him is that she isn't a easily scared cat, so she doesn't hide under the table etc. Only bad thing about her is that she is too brave. When, for example, I get into a fight with my brother, she attacks him aswell.

Don't take an animal, because it is cute and cuddly, take it for the right reasons. There are enough animals being killed because idiots and spoiled prats want to play home. Like I said, if you know how to look, shelters are a great place for a friend for life. Animals that come out of shelters KNOW you saved them, believe me.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Dogs are like a friend: fun to play with and extremely loyal. Cats are like getting a girlfriend: they want your attention in every minute, get incredibly jealous (I used to have cat that would get jealous whenever I put my laptop on my lap! ) but will forget about you when they meet a guy with a bigger bowl of milk!

[Spike 12,049]

  On 04/03/2013 at 09:46, We Hate Scouse said:

Dogs and cats are pointless. Why would you want one? Just cost needless money for them to roam around your house so you can clean up after them and then they eventually die and you're sad and get a new one which cost even more money.

Just don't see the point.

Just like kids, except kids can knock you one in the jaw when they get older and know better.

[We Hate Scouse 10,291]

  On 04/03/2013 at 12:18, Spike Spiegel said:

Just like kids, except kids can knock you one in the jaw when they get older and know better.

unless your kid makes something of themselves and makes you rich...animals don't do that

[Hutcho 8,443]

  On 04/03/2013 at 12:07, CHOULO19 said:

Dogs are like a friend: fun to play with and extremely loyal. Cats are like getting a girlfriend: they want your attention in every minute, get incredibly jealous (I used to have cat that would get jealous whenever I put my laptop on my lap! ) but will forget about you when they meet a guy with a bigger bowl of milk!

Very true. My dogs will go and sit outside if you walk into the garden protecting you lol. And would do anything for you. My cat was 16 and died a few weeks ago. She used to hate my laptop and walk all over it. I would wake up with her on my head and all sorts lol...