Dion 2,476 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 You can't really separate the things he supposedly did and the persona of Jesus. Because I guess whenever we discuss whether he existed or not we're interested in talking about Jesus the Messiah, he is the person I wouldn't be surprised to have never existed. Whether there was a Jesus who also was a carpenter in that time frame, I couldn't care less and it may have existed for all I care. Dang, I have known myself a Jesus that was a carpenter, he worked in the construction of one of my family houses. What's in stake really is whether the Messiah was a myth or a fact. Let's suppose all this biblical story had started just a few years ago and then, two thousand years later, when they're discussing whether it is true or not, they find historical evidences of the Jesus who built my house. Does that accomplish anything in regards to the existence of the Messiah? Not at all.It doesn't really matter if there was a good guy with the same name. It matters just as much as if we find out there was a Peter Parker who studied genetics and was a huge fan of spiders back in 1962 (when the comics started). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'm A-. Only 7% of people in the UK have my blood type, meaning I'm fucked if I need a transfusion I feel bad for Rh-negative people. On the bright side, it could be worse, B- are the ones really, really screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 You can't really separate the things he supposedly did and the persona of Jesus. Because I guess whenever we discuss whether he existed or not we're interested in talking about Jesus the Messiah, he is the person I wouldn't be surprised to have never existed. Whether there was a Jesus who also was a carpenter in that time frame, I couldn't care less and it may have existed for all I care. Dang, I have known myself a Jesus that was a carpenter, he worked in the construction of one of my family houses. What's in stake really is whether the Messiah was a myth or a fact. Let's suppose all this biblical story had started just a few years ago and then, two thousand years later, when they're discussing whether it is true or not, they find historical evidences of the Jesus who built my house. Does that accomplish anything in regards to the existence of the Messiah? Not at all.It doesn't really matter if there was a good guy with the same name. It matters just as much as if we find out there was a Peter Parker who studied genetics and was a huge fan of spiders back in 1962 (when the comics started).It actually does matter by the historic point of view, even if that isnt what interest most people...There are three possible scenarios for Jesus.1) 'Everything' is true. 2) Everything is made up. 3) They took an existing person and made him son of God.You might be interest in finding out if he was or wasnt a Messiah, but there are a group of people (including me) who simply dont care about that and just want to know what percentage of it was true and what wasnt. And his existance is part of that!It might not mean anything for you if people came with 'proof' that Jesus really existed, but we still dont know much about what he did in life. But that would be actually a great pass foward to discovering more about the thing he did or didnt do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 But that is not how it works...Hospitals will do everything to find the type of blood of a determined patient before even starting to think to give a different one (even if compatible). There are doctors who prefer to reuse the patient's lost A- blood than to use someone else's O-.There are more complications and even different systems besides the ABO and Rh. It is not as easy as we learn in high school!I'm a med student mate, I'm in the system. No need to explain. This wasn't about different systems of blood nor what is preferred. O blood is not perfect fit for A but the diglutination is minimal. Having a direct match is always the best option. Only thing is that Rh must match, otherwise it can bring about antigeneD antibodies and rh confict in the long haul. (Rh+ mother and 2nd child of her's with Rh-) Sidzeret, The only place to be and Rmpr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'm a med student mate, I'm in the system. No need to explain. This wasn't about different systems of blood nor what is preferred. O blood is not perfect fit for A but the diglutination is minimal. Having a direct match is always the best option.Ok, but still...My mom is a doctor and she doesnt use any other type of blood because it causes complications. You can give O- to an A- patient, but you cant at the same time. So, it is not like what Alex was saying was absurd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinineUltra 1,170 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Ok, but still...My mom is a doctor and she doesnt use any other type of blood because it causes complications.You can give O- to an A- patient, but you cant at the same time. So, it is not like what Alex was saying was absurd!Definitely, I might have misunderstood. I thought @ implied that he can only receive a blood transfusion from a person with A- (only 7%). Might have jumped the gun there, didn't want to be a smartass or a douchbag about it. Don't ban me. Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Definitely, I might have misunderstood. I thought @ implied that he can only receive a blood transfusion from a person with A- (only 7%). Might have jumped the gun there, didn't want to be a smartass or a douchbag about it. Don't ban me. Hahahaha, be careful, Thor 2 is coming out soon and he will want reasons to use the new GIFs! I dont meant to know more than you do (because I obviously dont, my thing is maths and physics and our talks in the Health Thread proove you sure know about your biology), but the way you answered Alex gave (to me) the impression you were dismissing his concern over his A- blood. That's why I quoted saying it wasnt that easy. SinineUltra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I REALLY hate biology! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I REALLY hate biology! But when the end of the world arrives and the zombies of Walking Dead attack us, no one will need your electrical engineerig abilities. While Sinine and I will survive by combining our medical and mechanical engineering skills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 But when the end of the world arrives and the zombies of Walking Dead attack us, no one will need your electrical engineerig abilities. While Sinine and I will survive by combining our medical and mechanical engineering skills! Oh please, you mechanical engineers are just glorified plumbers :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Relgion? Human physiology? Getting the fuck outta here, this is bat country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Oh please, you mechanical engineers are just glorified plumbers :P Glorified plumbers? Oh please, go fix the lighting bulb and call yourself an engineer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Glorified plumbers? Oh please, go fix the lighting bulb and call yourself an engineer! I'd deny that, but I'm actually about to change the light bulb which just burned out! Rmpr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'd deny that, but I'm actually about to change the light bulb which just burned out! See, eletrical engineers are all full of themselves just because it is hard!But in the end you are all just a bunch of useless electricists with a degree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 I'm an IT guy. You don't want to piss off an IT guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Fuck me, I was writing this giantic response and I unintentionally clicked to return the page and lost everything. Not replying this shit anymore. Stingray and MetsajCFC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Fuck me, I was writing this giantic response and I unintentionally clicked to return the page and lost everything. Not replying this shit anymore.This won't make you feel better, but if you hadn't made this post you could have got it back using the auto-save feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 This won't make you feel better, but if you hadn't made this post you could have got it back using the auto-save feature How do I use it next time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 Fuck me, I was writing this giantic response and I unintentionally clicked to return the page and lost everything. Not replying this shit anymore.Hahahaha, fuck it, I win it then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 How do I use it next time? Just click on the "Last auto save" at the bottom of the reply box: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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