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Obviously these idiots instead of remaining neutral will side with US and all together, will be demolished

That's just what happened nearly 100 years ago in WW1. That should have stayed as a small fight between Austria-Hungary and Serbia. But then everyone got involved .

[Solonapoli 256]

That's just what happened nearly 100 years ago in WW1. That should have stayed as a small fight between Austria-Hungary and Serbia. But then everyone got involved .

The U.S. does not know what they are getting .. Are against the powers Iran, China and Russia .. It should also be aware that Europe depends on Russia. And Chinese not end never and the Iranians are crazy

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

I'm afraid.. I'm reading articles of the Spanish crisis and the crisis in Italy .. at the end, the euro is not worth anything .. I fear that World War III bursts

we're learning this in school, but it wont be WWIII hahaha, but it well send EVERYONE into a recession, germany and france adn ntherlands need to just shut up take the hit and bailout all of the EURO zone. people always want to drag england into the mix but you know that wont be popular with their citizens along with their governing body. all this talk and delaying send the 'PIGS' (portugal, ireland, greece, spain) into deeper and deeper holes.

the eurozone can be summed like this: sooner they bail them out sooner 'WE' (everyone cuz we all will be affected) can recover.

[capriccioso 2,545]

China and America wouldn't dare to have a war. They need eachother.

Besides, I don't want to die in a war, chances are us Aussies will be shipped off and used as canon fodder. But if history is proof, we tend to go insane at war.

http://tvtropes.org/...esWithArtillery

Then why are they making imperialist movements into Africa and the Middle East? Something is afoot. Remember a few months ago the US established a base in Darwin/Northern Australia? That will be used as a base to control the straits between Indonesia and Thailand, where 75% of China's shipping goes through. If our government has any fucking sense we'll stay neutral and tell the Americans to take their navy base elsewhere. China is our future but we can't trust them as much as the USA. Just sit tight, and enter the war when it looks like someone is going to win it soon to win some brownie points. Stalinesque politics

On the subject of Australian war heroes, I think Albert Jacka VC takes the cake. http://www.badassoft....com/jacka.html

Jacka's finest hour in Gallipoli came in the ass-crack-o'clock hours of 19 May 1915, when the Turks launched a massive attack on the ANZAC trench line. At roughly two in the morning (the party was still jumping), the trench in front of Jacka was infiltrated and overrun by a wave of gunslinging Turkish troops, who killed or drove off all the Aussie troops stationed there. Bert Jacka's lieutenant was killed attempting to re-take it, shot in the head the second he stepped out of his own trench – dude didn't even get a chance to shout, "Follow me!" (which nobody would have done anyway once they saw how his attempt at re-taking the trench turned out for him). With the enemy close enough that they could lob a bunch hand grenades right tJacka's dugout, the Australian Private knew that he needed to do something quickly or the entire position would be lost in a blaze of fire, smoke, shrapnel, and flying Aussie parts. First, he tried to take a section of men out on a direct assault, but it didn't work out too well – Jacka popped up, ready to rock, but when the two men with him leapt up to follow him they both took bullets to soft parts of their bodies. Jacka grabbed both of them, dragged them back to safety (both ended up surviving the war thanks to his actions), and quickly realized that he needed to work out another plan of action.

The one he came up with was pretty fucking awesome.

Jacka had his buddies go to one side of the trench and start hurling a shitload of grenades and laying down covering fire. While the Turks were distracted with this sudden onslaught of explosive destruction, Jacka pulled himself up into no-man's land (you know, that place where he'd just seen three different dudes get gunned down the second they stepped out there?), sprinted across the fucking field in a balls-out rush, and then made a flying leap feet-first into the enemy trench.

He was already flipping the fuck out before the defenders even knew what hit them. Charging down the trench with a goddamned bolt-action rifle and a bayonet, this guy cleared out the entire trench of defenders, shooting five guys, bayoneting two more, and chasing the rest off with the sheer balls-out insanity of his attack. For the next 15 minutes, the Turks led a massive counter-attack to re-take the position, but Jacka held the trench by himself, fighting off anyone who came close to him in an unbelievable onslaught of gunfire and bayonet-y stabbing-ness. Reinforcements didn't arrive until dawn, because it wasn't until the sun came up that Jacka's buddies realize that he had actually defied the odds, single-handedly re-taken the position and driven off the enemy. When his commanding officer reached the captured trench, he found Jacka sitting there by himself amid a pile of corpses with a cigarette in his mouth. All he said was, "Well, I got the beggars, sir."

Private Albert Jacka became the first Aussie to ever receive the Victoria Cross. The medal was personally pinned on him by the King at Windsor Castle.

Cleared and held an entire Turkish trench for a whole night. What a don. And then there are his exploits in the Battle of the Somme:

One lovely French morning in mid-July 1916, after a long relaxing evening of having his position pasted with constant artillery shelling from three sides non-stop for eight hours straight, Albert Jacka awoke just in time to see some German stormtrooper casually roll a live grenade down the steps into his dugout. Jacka dropped to the dirt, covered his head, and when his ears stopped ringing from the concussive blast Jacka pulled his revolver, raced to the top step and looked out to see what the fuck was going on re: some asshole trying to pop him like an egg in a microwave. What he saw wasn't exactly heart-warming. The Germans had overrun the Australian positions during the night, and Jacka and his men were now a good 250 yards behind enemy lines. As if that wasn't bad enough, there was also a company of 60+ German soldiers leading 42 unarmed Australian infantrymen off as prisoners of war.

Now, a rational person would have looked down into his dugout, saw the 6 battle-weary Australians sitting there, and realized that the only way they were walking out of there alive was if they came out of the dugout with their hands in the air.

But Albert Jacka wasn't a rational person. He was a badass.

Albert Jacka, 250 yards behind enemy lines, surrounded, outnumbered, and exhausted, led seven Australian troops screaming out of the dugout, guns blazing, charging straight-on into a group of 60 well-armed German soldiers. Within seconds of the charge, every man in the squad was shot and wounded, but they kept on rolling. Jacka himself was shot seven times (including twice in the fucking head!) but when the soon-to-be P.O.W.s took one look at this berserker rage, they turned on their guards, overpowering some of them with a barrage of bare-knuckled face punches that would have made those hilarious boxing kangaroos proud. Jacka burned through his revolver rounds, took up a rifle and a bayonet, and kept fighting, and when the smoke finally cleared 12 Germans were dead and the rest had been taken prisoner. Rather than head back home, however, the Aussies kept fighting, re-taking the line in a battle that the Australian official war historian referred to as, "The most dramatic and effective act of individual audacity in the history of the Australian Imperial Force". (Editor's note: "Audacity" is high-brow speak for "Balls-out-ed-ness".)

Jacka received the Military Cross for his actions at the Somme (many historians argue that he would have been nominated for a much higher medal if he wasn't also so insubordinate to his superior officers), and later received a second Military Cross when he went on a solo recon mission deep behind enemy lines and ended up capturing two German officers – they had spotted him laying tape to guide the Australian infantry, so he tried to shoot them with his revolver. When the pistol misfired, he just charged them, took them down with his bare hands, and dragged them back to Allied lines.

He survived 2 headshots

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

I love apples, I don't know why but apples are good at like 25 to 3 in the morning...

[Solonapoli 256]

we're learning this in school, but it wont be WWIII hahaha, but it well send EVERYONE into a recession, germany and france adn ntherlands need to just shut up take the hit and bailout all of the EURO zone. people always want to drag england into the mix but you know that wont be popular with their citizens along with their governing body. all this talk and delaying send the 'PIGS' (portugal, ireland, greece, spain) into deeper and deeper holes.

the eurozone can be summed like this: sooner they bail them out sooner 'WE' (everyone cuz we all will be affected) can recover.

I hope that Italy is not getting in the way .. A shitty country defenseless and unarmed .. they want to get killed ..anyway, I believe that the Euro will auto destroy within a short .. months .. Up to 3

[Spike 12,049]

Then why are they making imperialist movements into Africa and the Middle East? Something is afoot. Remember a few months ago the US established a base in Darwin/Northern Australia? That will be used as a base to control the straits between Indonesia and Thailand, where 75% of China's shipping goes through. If our government has any fucking sense we'll stay neutral and tell the Americans to take their navy base elsewhere. China is our future but we can't trust them as much as the USA. Just sit tight, and enter the war when it looks like someone is going to win it soon to win some brownie points. Stalinesque politics

Because they are fucking idiots that's why. War is stupid.

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

I hope that Italy is not getting in the way .. A shitty country defenseless and unarmed .. they want to get killed ..anyway, I believe that the Euro will auto destroy within a short .. months .. Up to 3

sorry italy are in the wayy as well, it actually the 'PIIGS' but yeah 3-5 months maxx.

[Spike 12,049]

I hope that Italy is not getting in the way .. A shitty country defenseless and unarmed .. they want to get killed ..anyway, I believe that the Euro will auto destroy within a short .. months .. Up to 3

You guys haven't been the same since 546AD when the Roman Empire lost Roma...

Italy should have France's military reputation.

[Solonapoli 256]

I do not know how the Third World War will be fought, but I can tell you what they will use in the Fourth: rocks! (Albert Einstein)

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[Solonapoli 256]

You guys haven't been the same since 546AD when the Roman Empire lost Roma...

Italy should have France's military reputation.

Italy has only debts...

[Spike 12,049]

€ was a mistake.

[capriccioso 2,545]

You guys haven't been the same since 546AD when the Roman Empire lost Roma...

Italy should have France's military reputation.

The French get a very raw deal. Their heroic resistance in WW1 at Verdun must not be forgotten. Yes they folded in WW2 but everyone who faced the Blitzkrieg except for the USSR did.

I still don't know how the British managed to shit their way through Operation Sea Lion. Looking at the plan I can't believe Hitler didn't try it.

[Solonapoli 256]

€ was a mistake.

Giant mistake..

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

If WW3 was to break out I'd shit it as Britian is an island and can be attacked from multiple directions... still don't know if such thing till happen. Though if Scotland were ever to loose Irn Bru I would be lost forever :( :( never mind being under control from another country, if we lost Irn Bru Scotland would swallow itself and disappear.

[capriccioso 2,545]

If WW3 was to break out I'd shit it as Britian is an island and can be attacked from multiple directions... still don't know if such thing till happen.

Britain should stay out of it. This is a war to decide once and for all who will be the sole superpower (until Russia/Brazil/India rise up to challenge the USA), and that sure as hell isn't going to be Britain or any other European country. Stand back and let China and the USA destroy each other and then pick up the pieces.

[Spike 12,049]

If WW3 was to break out I'd shit it as Britian is an island and can be attacked from multiple directions... still don't know if such thing till happen.

Britain has not been successfuly invaded since the Normans invaded in 1066.

[OneMoSalah 8,783]

Britain should stay out of it. This is a war to decide once and for all who will be the sole superpower (until Russia/Brazil/India rise up to challenge the USA), and that sure as hell isn't going to be Britain or any other European country.

True but I reckon that the only sort of "superpower" should be Chelsea FC