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[Vesper 28,987]

hopefully we all of these

[LAM09 6,772]

45 minutes ago, Vesper said:

where?

Servette vs Chelsea | UEFA Conference League 2024/25 | UEFA.com

Edit - I see it was answered already. I mentioned it prior to qualification and concur with what you said—anything but a European triumph (first side to win all three titles) would be a failure, no matter how you view it.

Edited Thursday at 23:04 by LAM09

[Laylabelle 9,375]

56 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

The only thing stopping us would be ourselves losing concentration or underestimating sides. We do have an L already to our European campaign thus far but have come a long way in recent months.

Definitely and hopefully we're past that now the underestimating i mean. Done it so many times before. 

Still got issues at the back however but think it's just expected now. Sometimes we keep a clean sheet. Majority of the time less so.

[LAM09 6,772]

Just now, Laylabelle said:

Definitely and hopefully we're past that now the underestimating i mean. Done it so many times before. 

Still got issues at the back however but think it's just expected now. Sometimes we keep a clean sheet. Majority of the time less so.

I don't know what the situation is with our key players being excluded. I'd imagine Palmer & co will be added for the KO stages if multiple changes are permitted.

[robsblubot 3,528]

You just can't risk injuries in this competition.

We have the roster to rotate now, so might as well.

Edited Thursday at 23:22 by robsblubot

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

6 hours ago, LAM09 said:

I don't know what the situation is with our key players being excluded. I'd imagine Palmer & co will be added for the KO stages if multiple changes are permitted.

Three max, excluding players who are exempt such as qualified academy youngsters.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

6 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Servette vs Chelsea | UEFA Conference League 2024/25 | UEFA.com

(first side to win all three titles)

Don't forget the European Cup Winners Cup, which we won twice. That would make it 'all four', or five if you count the Super Cup.

[NikkiCFC 8,039]

 

 

Edited yesterday at 13:03 by NikkiCFC

[LAM09 6,772]

10 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Three max, excluding players who are exempt such as qualified academy youngsters.

Appreciate the information. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens during the Winter window.

[Vesper 28,987]

23 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Don't forget the European Cup Winners Cup, which we won twice. That would make it 'all four', or five if you count the Super Cup.

there are 3 we never won

Continental:

UEFA Intertoto Cup
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

Global:

Intercontinental Cup

There is now a new Intercontinental Cup, so we can win that.

Juve, if they had not lost their 2 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup finals (in 1965 nil 1 to Ferencváros in Turin, when they were missing 2 of their top players, and 1971 to Leeds on away goals, as that year it was home and away 2 legs) would have been the ONLY team to have a chance to win everything, as they did win the old Intercontinental Cup (twice, in 1985 and 1996) . They still do not have the FIFA World Club Cup (now much harder to win) and also lack the new UEFA Conference League. They have won everything else (or still have the chance to do so) of true import at least once. Not even Barca, Real Madrid, Ajax, AC Milan, Manure, Pool, Bayern, Dortmund, Inter Milan, etc can claim that.

To get hyper-technical, they also did not win the 2 year only (1951, 1952) held Rio Cup, when they lost the first final, to Palmeiras, in 1951, and then they did not play in it in 1952, nor did they play in its successor, the one year only held (1953) Torneio Octogonal Rivadavia Correa Meyer. Those two 2-offs and 1-offs were the first ever 'world club championships', and are now seen as the predecessor 'world club championships' to the Intercontinental Cup, which started in 1960, but becuase they were only played twice and once, I do not really count them as being 'official'. There are a lot of trophies (continental) all over the planet that were only played once or twice, which are nice to have, but are more just a 'luck of the draw' time-wise in terms of even being able to play in them. South America and Africa are notorious for these types of one or 2-offs.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Vesper

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

there are 3 we never won

Continental:

UEFA Intertoto Cup
Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

Global:

Intercontinental Cup

There is now a new Intercontinental Cup, so we can win that.

Juve, if they had not lost their 2 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup finals (in 1965 nil 1 to Ferencváros in Turin, when they were missing 2 of their top players, and 1971 to Leeds on away goals, as that year it was home and away 2 legs) would have been the ONLY team to have a chance to win everything, as they did win the old Intercontinental Cup (twice, in 1985 and 1996) . They still do not have the FIFA World Club Cup (now much harder to win) and also lack the new UEFA Conference League. They have won everything else (or still have the chance to do so) of true import at least once. Not even Barca, Real Madrid, Ajax, AC Milan, Manure, Pool, Bayern, Dortmund, Inter Milan, etc can claim that.

To get hyper-technical, they also did not win the 2 year only (1951, 1952) held Rio Cup, when they lost the first final, to Palmeiras, in 1951, and then they did not play in it in 1952, nor did they play in its successor, the one year only held (1953) Torneio Octogonal Rivadavia Correa Meyer. Those two 2-offs and 1-offs were the first ever 'world club championships', and are now seen as the predecessor 'world club championships' to the Intercontinental Cup, which started in 1960, but becuase they were only played twice and once, I do not really count them as being 'official'. There are a lot of trophies (continental) all over the planet that were only played once or twice, which are nice to have, but are more just a 'luck of the draw' time-wise in terms of even being able to play in them. South America and Africa are notorious for these types of one or 2-offs.

 

 

 

 

 

Memory is a strange thing. Well my memory is strange anyway, but I don't think I'm alone. 🙂 Because I'm old enough, I do remember the Fairs Cup, though I don't remember Leeds winning it in 1971. Meanwhile, all I remember about the much more recent Intertoto Cup, is its name. I could not tell you a single other fact about the competition.

My belief, and I think the belief of everyone who lived through the transition, was that UEFA regarded the UEFA Cup as the polished up continuation of the Fairs Cup. This means that, up to reading your post, I always considered a UEFA Cup win as a tick in the box for the Fairs Cup with no need to consider the competition as a separate entity. With qualification for the older trophy being linked to whether or not your city hosted business fairs, and teams able to be formed of players from more than one club, the competition never really caught the public imagination. The only things (I think) l remember about CFC in the competition is that we once progressed through a tie on the toss of a coin, and were also once eliminated on a coin toss.

[Vesper 28,987]

18 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Memory is a strange thing. Well my memory is strange anyway, but I don't think I'm alone. 🙂 Because I'm old enough, I do remember the Fairs Cup, though I don't remember Leeds winning it in 1971. Meanwhile, all I remember about the much more recent Intertoto Cup, is its name. I could not tell you a single other fact about the competition.

My belief, and I think the belief of everyone who lived through the transition, was that UEFA regarded the UEFA Cup as the polished up continuation of the Fairs Cup. This means that, up to reading your post, I always considered a UEFA Cup win as a tick in the box for the Fairs Cup with no need to consider the competition as a separate entity. With qualification for the older trophy being linked to whether or not your city hosted business fairs, and teams able to be formed of players from more than one club, the competition never really caught the public imagination. The only things (I think) l remember about CFC in the competition is that we once progressed through a tie on the toss of a coin, and were also once eliminated on a coin toss.

Something to jog your memory and also to back you up about the UEFA Cup/Europa League in re the Fairs Cup

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970–71_Inter-Cities_Fairs_Cup

1970–71 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

 

 

The 1970–71 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup was the 13th and final season of the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, a European football competition for teams not qualified for the European Cup or the European Cup Winners' Cup. Back in 1969, UEFA determined this would be the final year of the Fairs Cup before taking over the organizational duties and evolving the competition into the UEFA Cup, which is now known as the UEFA Europa League.^[1]

 

1970–71 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

Tournament details
Teams	64
Final positions
Champions	Leeds United (2nd title)
Runners-up	Juventus
Tournament statistics
Matches played	126
Goals scored	382 (3.03 per match)
Top scorer(s)	Pietro Anastasi (10 goals)
← 1969–70 1971–72 (UEFA Cup) →

The final was played over two legs at Stadio Comunale, Turin, Italy, and at Elland Road, Leeds, England. It was won by Leeds United of England, who defeated the Italian team Juventus on the away goals rule after a 3–3 aggregate draw to claim their second Inter-Cities Fairs Cup title. It was the first time the competition final had been won on the away goals rule.

This was to be the final European title for Leeds United, which would cap off its most successful era later in the decade with two further finals in UEFA-organized tournaments. It was also the second Fairs Cup final lost by Juventus, who still had not won a European title. Notably, the first leg of the final was replayed from scratch two days later after the initially scheduled game, which was abandoned after 51 minutes of play with a score of 0–0 due to heavy rain and a waterlogged pitch.

As no team had ever managed to permanently win the Inter-Cities Fairs trophy that was to be discontinued, its destination was decided in a special play-off between the first and last competition winners: Barcelona and Leeds United, respectively.^[1]

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Vesper

[OhForAGreavsie 5,898]

50 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Something to jog your memory and also to back you up about the UEFA Cup/Europa League in re the Fairs Cup

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1970–71_Inter-Cities_Fairs_Cup

1970–71 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

 

 

The 1970–71 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup was the 13th and final season of the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, a European football competition for teams not qualified for the European Cup or the European Cup Winners' Cup. Back in 1969, UEFA determined this would be the final year of the Fairs Cup before taking over the organizational duties and evolving the competition into the UEFA Cup, which is now known as the UEFA Europa League.^[1]

 

1970–71 Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

Tournament details
Teams	64
Final positions
Champions	Leeds United (2nd title)
Runners-up	Juventus
Tournament statistics
Matches played	126
Goals scored	382 (3.03 per match)
Top scorer(s)	Pietro Anastasi (10 goals)
← 1969–70 1971–72 (UEFA Cup) →

The final was played over two legs at Stadio Comunale, Turin, Italy, and at Elland Road, Leeds, England. It was won by Leeds United of England, who defeated the Italian team Juventus on the away goals rule after a 3–3 aggregate draw to claim their second Inter-Cities Fairs Cup title. It was the first time the competition final had been won on the away goals rule.

This was to be the final European title for Leeds United, which would cap off its most successful era later in the decade with two further finals in UEFA-organized tournaments. It was also the second Fairs Cup final lost by Juventus, who still had not won a European title. Notably, the first leg of the final was replayed from scratch two days later after the initially scheduled game, which was abandoned after 51 minutes of play with a score of 0–0 due to heavy rain and a waterlogged pitch.

As no team had ever managed to permanently win the Inter-Cities Fairs trophy that was to be discontinued, its destination was decided in a special play-off between the first and last competition winners: Barcelona and Leeds United, respectively.^[1]

 

Thanks.

Unlike the Champions Cup and the Cup Winners Cup, the UEFA Cup even inherited the two legged final from its predecessor.