Chelsea 0-2 Man City

[Special Juan 28,133]

It's mental that after one game the papers are littered with more drama with us, Sterling and his statement, a loss and crowd getting annoyed.

This club is mental

[mkh 575]

Napoli wants to get Romelu Lukaku on their own terms. They have offered a loan with obgliation to buy. £4.2 million for the loan, then £21.3 million next year. 

Chelsea have not yet accepted these conditions.

(@DiMarzio)

[King Kante 1,643]

33 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I'd rather caicedo and lavia, watch the highlights Enzo fucked 3 decent chances yesterday, not to mention lavia and caicedo have more of a connection than caicedo and Enzo had in a full season. Every one says caicedo is the problem but when Enzo was injured we went on a 7 game win streak 🤔 but let's continue with caicedo is the problem narrative.

That win streak was at the end of the season when half the teams were on the beach. In addition, Caicedo needed to be flanked by both Gallagher and Cucu in order to not be a liability positionally and allow everyone to play straight through us. So, I am not really buying his late season form marked a turning point for him and expect him to go back to par, which is what we saw yesterday.

As for Enzo, I am not really defending him, he also has to be doing a lot better. However, Enzo can move the ball better than Caicedo and Lavia is the best DM of the three. As a result, Lavia starts with Enzo because as a pair they should compliment each other better.

 

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

1 hour ago, IMissEden said:

Just say you didn’t see the goals, and probably only saw one after my comment. Learn how to profile players. They’re pretty much all the same goal, and a very impressive one. Learn more about what emphasises / nullifies that type of play, that he continues to give Argentina, and will go back to whenever free. Re, nonsense about why would he ask to be deployed up high. People don’t even understand the context of the player they’re supposedly talking / parroting, about. 
 

Next consider player development after diving deeper into how to profile players. If you haven’t already, or don’t want to, how is this a serious convo right now. From where this confidence of assessing players. What is your track record. 

😂

Dude, you obviously have 0 clue about football but at least you are funny. You should work for Clownlake

 

Nothing beats ppl joining a forum and instantly start spamming it with these random incoherent ramblings. Brilliant 😂

[coolhead23 1,147]

Losing is never easy but our performance turned out better than expected (what are we turning into🥲)

Felt there were some good positives to take home. 

• Colwill & Fofana partnership was better than expected. If they can stay injury free then they can be our mainstay specially if we're not buying anyone at that position. They might surprise many. 
• Cucurella, what has gone into him. The way be kept Doku quiet & moved him on the other side, his pressing, being everywhere ... he surely has turned around things. 
• Lavia is a breathe of fresh air. Solid & covering the ground. 
• If we dont get any more first team player then I believe we have our 11 & importantly we have decent change players (this is without consider James, Sterling & Connor) ... Now the team has to built on its chemistry. 
• Palmer is going to be a star, he has the knack to push things ... we need players like Nkuku, Lavia, Enzo, Neto to work with him. 
• Ones who didnt turn up yesterday were Gusto, Enzo, Jackson, Nkuku, Sanchez. We are in dire state to have better shot stoppers not someone to play from behind, finishers in the final third. Hope something gets done. 

Overall, hope this is keep getting better. 

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

5 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I'd rather caicedo and lavia, watch the highlights Enzo fucked 3 decent chances yesterday, not to mention lavia and caicedo have more of a connection than caicedo and Enzo had in a full season. Every one says caicedo is the problem but when Enzo was injured we went on a 7 game win streak 🤔 but let's continue with caicedo is the problem narrative.

Regarding last season, that was in a very direct and counter-attacking style which is vastly different from what the new manager does (which is the reason he was hired). He was also used in the toughest matches, and was rested during the easy ones... stats are fun.

Enzo was bought as arguably one of the best CMs for huge money, at least on the young side. I don't understand why he plays as a CAM for us, so that's a problem the manager has to sort out.
He's far more skillful than Caicedo, and I think he will play a much bigger part this season knowing what the manager seeks in terms of characteristics.

[YorkshireBlue 3,268]

3 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Regarding last season, that was in a very direct and counter-attacking style which is vastly different from what the new manager does (which is the reason he was hired). He was also used in the toughest matches, and was rested during the easy ones... stats are fun.

Enzo was bought as arguably one of the best CMs for huge money, at least on the young side. I don't understand why he plays as a CAM for us, so that's a problem the manager has to sort out.
He's far more skillful than Caicedo, and I think he will play a much bigger part this season knowing what the manager seeks in terms of characteristics.

Not sure, personally I think he's crap, he's shown nothing so far apart from a few decent long balls, he's pretty slow, gets caught in possession alot, can't really tackle and players run past him far to easy, stick him in CAM like yesterday and he was clueless, got in the way, Lukaku like first touch twice! If he's to stay he has to show 20x more than he has shown so far.

[robsblubot 3,595]

14 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Not sure, personally I think he's crap, he's shown nothing so far apart from a few decent long balls, he's pretty slow, gets caught in possession alot, can't really tackle and players run past him far to easy, stick him in CAM like yesterday and he was clueless, got in the way, Lukaku like first touch twice! If he's to stay he has to show 20x more than he has shown so far.

Yes he's struggling, but first touch, being slow, all could be because he's playing in a very contested area with very little time one the ball; he needs to be thinking about what to do before applying the first touch. He plays very well as a CM for Argentina where he's an excellent tackler.
Move Caicedo do CAM to see how he'd do eh. Was Conor good at CAM? He was pretty bad too.

[YorkshireBlue 3,268]

15 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Yes he's struggling, but first touch, being slow, all could be because he's playing in a very contested area with very little time one the ball; he needs to be thinking about what to do before applying the first touch. He plays very well as a CM for Argentina where he's an excellent tackler.
Move Caicedo do CAM to see how he'd do eh. Was Conor good at CAM? He was pretty bad too.

Non should be cam, leave that to Felix neto Palmer nkunku, Enzo may play better with time on the ball, he won't get that in this league, he probably is a really good player with time but if that's the case he isn't prem material 

Edited August 19, 2024 by YorkshireBlue

[robsblubot 3,595]

14 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

Non should be cam, leave that to Felix neto Palmer nkunku, Enzo may play better with time on the ball, he won't get that in this league, he probably is a really good player with time but if that's the case he isn't prem material 

Maybe, but I don't think we have that information just yet. He's been mostly employed in a more advanced position, where any player would have less time of the ball. A CAM also needs to play with his back at the opposition goal at times, and he's better doing the b2b. The new manager employs the positional game, so I expect a lot of changes in the next matches.

There have been reports stating that he has asked to play in a CAM role; if so, the club/manager should dissuade him of that idea, and if not possible sell him.

[YorkshireBlue 3,268]

5 minutes ago, robsblubot said:

Maybe, but I don't think we have that information just yet. He's been mostly employed in a more advanced position, where any player would have less time of the ball. A CAM also needs to play with his back at the opposition goal at times, and he's better doing the b2b. The new manager employs the positional game, so I expect a lot of changes in the next matches.

There have been reports stating that he has asked to play in a CAM role; if so, the club/manager should dissuade him of that idea, and if not possible sell him.

He asked poch the same thing, Enzo doesn't even know his best position in this case then, so even he doesn't think he's a deep lying midfielder..... If he's asked 2 managers now to play him CAM! He clearly doesn't believe he's what we all want him to be, and if he doesn't believe it, he will never be happy there or thrive.

Edited August 19, 2024 by YorkshireBlue

[robsblubot 3,595]

8 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

He asked poch the same thing, Enzo doesn't even know his best position in this case then, so even he doesn't think he's a deep lying midfielder..... If he's asked 2 managers now to play him CAM! He clearly doesn't believe he's what we all want him to be, and if he doesn't believe it, he will never be happy there or thrive.

Well that's the strange part: he seems pretty happy doing the dirty work and running his socks off for Argentina. 🤷‍♂️
Still, from what I heard about Maresca, we should expect drastic changes going forward.

[IMissEden 21]

No, that’s been touched on. Better players tend to reserve their better performances for either of the sides set up better - club, or international. The club is tumultuous. You don’t run for it. You do for Argentina. You respect the people there. Most clubs have tapped in to sport psychology since 2014. CFC both regimes still yet to. Once we do, fans will consider it more I hope. I presume the rugby guy we hired for good vibes policy is not that. 

Edited August 19, 2024 by IMissEden

[cfccrost 23]

I think Enzo wont be cam against wolves because the setup versus city is not Maresca's usual tactics. I think he will have lavia and moises or enzo besides him, who will be a supporting amf with our starting cam.

 

My point is that i believe maresca will change his setups and lineups depending who we play against

Edited August 19, 2024 by cfccrost

[cosmicway 1,333]

I said I was not going to write anything in this City thread because of the team's alleged unreadiness, or unreadiness.
But this is about Taylor.
First of all when we were still under Abramovitch the club had requested not to be refereed by Anthony Taylor again. What happened to that ?

Now about Sunday:

1st) Jackson goal. Jackson's goal was offside. Where he stands half of his body is beyond the line and the rebound does not cancel the offside. The opposition player has to play the ball intentionally to cancel the offside.
2n) Enzo, Enzo is brought down inside the area from behind. It was a police against demonstrator situation and Taylor waves play on.
3d) Kovacic's hand ball. That was an outstretched arm, same as last year in the Etihad. That should have been given was the verdict and the same applies for Sunday's match. Taylor again waves play on.

Evidently this man is not an ... Altrincham fan but a sworn enemy of Chelsea football club.

Edited August 20, 2024 by cosmicway