Vesper 30,237 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just now, Jason said: Do you need a sponsor to play Football Manager or FIFA? I can send you some money to buy the game... ihihihihihii TC IS my FM roflmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Vesper said: ihihihihihii TC IS my FM roflmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooo Here's a taste of what you could have in FM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,344 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Jason said: Here's a taste of what you could have in FM... How the hell did you buy Mbappe Lottin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,118 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jason said: Here's a taste of what you could have in FM... Pretty impressive first 11 right there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,237 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jason said: Here's a taste of what you could have in FM... Mbappe's salary demands are a deal breaker. I gave up trying to make it work. He would cost around 400m to half a billion quid en toto over 5 years (that is a per-COVID valuation) when fees and wages, etc are totaled up. Our fate with the Mbappes of the world was sealed when Roman pulled the plug on the new stadium, which would have given us an extra £50m to £75m (or more) per annum in pure new revenue to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,344 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Vesper said: Dream world 4 2 3 1 for 2021/22 season  GK Ugurcan Cakir or Predrag Rajkovic LCB Gabriel RCB Upamecano LB Theo Hernandez RB Reece DMF Tonali or Camavinga (paid for via Jorginho sale) Box to Box Gilmour No. 10 Havertz LW Sancho RW Ziyech CF Werner (added just to drive @Jason bonkers, lololol)  the 14 Backups/Rotational GK Vicente Guaita or Martin Dúbravka CB Rudiger CB Tomori LB Alex Sandro (came via swap for Emerson) RB Azpi (his last season with us, he will leave on a free in 2022 I am pretty sure, as he will be 33 in August 2022, and 33 is washed the fuck up for a RB on a top 4 team n the EPL, I cannot even see Marina renewing him at 33) DMF/CB Ampadu CMF Kovacic CMF/AMF RLC CMF/DMF Conor Gallagher AMF Mount LW Pulisic RW CHO (provided he isn't in prison, ffs ) CF Tammy CF Broja  buy bye Kante, especially if he fucks us and refuses to play due to COVID-19 (which means, if he is refusing now, he surely wont play in the fall/winter, when the 2nd wave is ripping into us) That team is so young. Would probably need a couple of seasons to compete for CL and to reach prime but I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,237 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just now, NikkiCFC said: That team is so young. Would probably need a couple of seasons to compete for CL and to reach prime but I like it. young yes, but many already have a lot of top flight experience as starters and it is starting in 2021/22 so yet another year before it was completed it isn't like Brugge or a Lille where you have 19, 20, 21 year olds with almost no true topflight experience despite many of them having huge potential talent  at the start of the 2021/22 season, this would be the number of years starting at a topflight club they would have  GK Ugurcan Cakir (3 years) or Predrag Rajkovic (7 years) LCB Gabriel   2 and a half years RCB Upamecano  5 as a starter LB Theo Hernandez  5 years as a starter RB Reece 2 or 1 and a half to get picky (I am not counting anything before as it wasnt top of the pyramid play) DMF Tonali or Camavinga (paid for via Jorginho sale) 4 or  2 Box to Box Gilmour one and a little more (Kovacic will play a lot here) No. 10 Havertz almost 5 full years LW Sancho 3 and a half RW Ziyech 8 years CF Werner 8 years  plus you have old heads on the bench or as rotational starters GK Vicente Guaita or Martin Dúbravka CB Rudiger LB Alex Sandro RB Azpi CMF Kovacic (10 years at that point, as a top flight starter, 8 and a half of it at Big 5 level) even Puli will have 5 years deffo NOT a team loaded up with rookies or 1 year players   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 38 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: How the hell did you buy Mbappe Lottin? Sell players, include a player as trade, beg your club for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,082 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Vesper said: Mbappe's salary demands are a deal breaker. I gave up trying to make it work. He would cost around 400m to half a billion quid en toto over 5 years (that is a per-COVID valuation) when fees and wages, etc are totaled up. Our fate with the Mbappes of the world was sealed when Roman pulled the plug on the new stadium, which would have given us an extra £50m to £75m (or more) per annum in pure new revenue to play with. How many around here are old enough to remember one time Wimbledon owner Sam Hammam? He injected a little cash into the team, and a lot of PR into selling the idea that The Dons would move to Dublin, capture the huge fanbase there, perform week after week in a packed 70,000 seater, and become a superpower. In reality Hammam knew that resistance to the scheme in Ireland, at The FA and among fans made it a non-starter. He also knew however that the wealthy Nordic crew he was wooing as potential buyers for his club were not as clued up as he was. He sold them the dream and collected his unrealistically inflated cheque. Naturally, I have no idea if its true but the rumour is out there that Roman was pulling the same stunt. That the planning permission was only ever intended to be used to aid his negotiating position for a profitable sale. Football fans, myself included, always want things to be better than they are but, on the whole, Roman has done well for the club. He has almost always acted honourably and sought to do the right thing, so I choose to believe Bruce Buck when he says Roman does not intend to sell. Either way that additional revenue you talk about is now a long, long way off. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,237 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: How many around here are old enough to remember one time Wimbledon owner Sam Hammam? He injected a little cash into the team, and a lot of PR into selling the idea that The Dons would move to Dublin, capture the huge fanbase there, perform week after week in a packed 70,000 seater, and become a superpower. In reality Hammam knew that resistance to the scheme in Ireland, at The FA and among fans mad it a non-starter. He also knew however that the wealthy Nordic crew he was wooing as potential buyers for his club were not as clued up as he was. He sold them the dream and collected his unrealistically inflated cheque. Naturally, I have no idea if its true but the rumour is out there that Roman was pulling the same stunt. That the planning permission was only ever intended to be used to aid his negotiating position for a profitable sale. Football fans, myself included, always want things to be better than they are but, on the whole, Roman has done well for the club. He has almost always acted honourably and sought to do the right thing, so I choose to believe Bruce Buck when he says Roman does not intend to sell. Either way that additional revenue you talk about is now a long, long way off. If it was a PR ploy to tempt buyers, he sure as hell did a lot of work and spent a shedload of time and cash on it I am going to chose to believe it was the fucking government banning him (in reality) from coming into the UK as the reason and that just makes yet another reason for me to hate fucking Trump, as it all skewed off that Jim Ratcliffe went into great detail as to why he decided not to buy us, and central to it was the stadium cost AND the length of time (a big fuck off to the Rugby Football Union over telling us to piss off in re Twickenham) we would have been scrambling for a temp home pitch if not for COVID-19, in 2 to 4 years we would have been (as I have painstakingly detailed multiple times) the ONLY top 30 football club in europe without a large new/relatively new modern stadium, or one that had been massively renovated and expanded it will be interesting to see which clubs bail on their new stadiums due to COVID-19 financial issues I have little sympathy for them in regards to that, because we were already in the same boat even before the virus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,082 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Vesper said: If it was a PR ploy to tempt buyers, he sure as hell did a lot of work and spent a shedload of time and cash on it I am going to chose to believe it was the fucking government banning him (in reality) from coming into the UK as the reason and that just makes yet another reason for me to hate fucking Trump, as it all skewed off that Jim Ratcliffe went into great detail as to why he decided not to buy us, and central to it was the stadium cost AND the length of time (a big fuck off to the Rugby Football Union over telling us to piss off in re Twickenham) we would have been scrambling for a temp home pitch if not for COVID-19, in 2 to 4 years we would have been (as I have painstakingly detailed multiple times) the ONLY top 30 football club in europe without a large new/relatively new modern stadium, or one that had been massively renovated and expanded it will be interesting to see which clubs bail on their new stadiums due to COVID-19 financial issues I have little sympathy for them in regards to that, because we were already in the same boat even before the virus I really wish that the fanbase as a whole would wake up to the danger of our stadium situation and the threat hanging over us if we fail to remedy it. The fans have got to stop being so selfish in insisting that the club must remain at Stamford Bridge. Misplaced nostalgia for a location is, in my unsentimental opinion, just stupid. You may like the house you live in, but you still move when you need to, and even sometimes when you just want to. Home is where your family is, not where the bricks stand. Wherever Chelsea fans turnup, that's where Chelsea are. Blues fans without Stamford Bridge still equals Chelsea, but Stamford Bridge without Chelsea fans can never be anything more than a pointless shell. What matters is getting the right stadium, with the right facilities to serve the future of the club. Rebuilding in Fulham Broadway will be the most expensive option, the most disruptive option, and the one which will result in the worst, most compromised stadium. Ok, it proved tough to find a good location within the radius the fans might have accepted, so spread the net wider. Stamford Bridge can only be the option of last resort, not the cling-on-to-at-all-costs obsession. As I say, it is plain selfish of people like me, a percentage of whom will be dead inside the next ten years, to demand that the club throws away all of the better alternatives for securing its future just to satisfy their misplaced feelings. Vesper and Blues Forever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,237 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I really wish that the fanbase as a whole would wake up to the danger of our stadium situation and the threat hanging over us if we fail to remedy it. The fans have got to stop being so selfish in insisting that the club must remain at Stamford Bridge. Misplaced nostalgia for a location is, in my unsentimental opinion, just stupid. You may like the house you live in, but you still move when you need to, and even sometimes when you just want to. Home is where your family is, not where the bricks stand. Wherever Chelsea fans turnup, that's where Chelsea are. Blues fans without Stamford Bridge still equals Chelsea, but Stamford Bridge without Chelsea fans can never be anything more than a pointless shell. What matters is getting the right stadium, with the right facilities to serve the future of the club. Rebuilding in Fulham Broadway will be the most expensive option, the most disruptive option, and the one which will result in the worst, most compromised stadium. Ok, it proved tough to find a good location within the radius the fans might have accepted, so spread the net wider. Stamford Bridge can only be the option of last resort, not the cling-on-to-at-all-costs obsession. As I say, it is plain selfish of people like me, a percentage of whom will be dead inside the next ten years, to demand that the club throws away all of the better alternatives for securing its future just to satisfy their misplaced feelings. completely agree except one small thing Quote  most compromised stadium I saw almost nothing 'compromised' about the monster we had on the planning board it would have been (until Barca and Real did their billion euro renovations) the best football only stadium on the planet, IMHO the fucking thing made me wet, lololol it was a bloody work of art THAT is what makes it doubly hard to take FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK killer1257 and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I saw almost nothing 'compromised' about the monster we had on the planning board it would have been (until Barca and Real did their billion euro renovations) the best football only stadium on the planet, IMHO the fucking thing made me wet, lololol it was a bloody work of art THAT is what makes it doubly hard to take FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK If the design of a stadium makes a woman wet, it probably is a damn good stadium lol Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,237 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, killer1257 said: If the design of a stadium makes a woman wet, it probably is a damn good stadium lol Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk  it is like a Gothic temple of stone, an ode to England, football, the Lions of London modern and yet ancient intimidating as well truly a work of integrated art on most all levels, a radiated sense of persistence and a continuity with the past of of our island home, reaching back into the mists of time far beyond 1905 it looks.................... like victory killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Can I lock this thread? Is everyone okay with it? Vesper and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,237 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, Jason said: Can I lock this thread? Is everyone okay with it? noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo it's too much fun revelling in skadeglädje (Swedish for schadenfreude) with a self-loathing twist lololol killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 "Liverpool have a good relationship with RB Leipzig, but they now value him at significantly less than £30m." Don't know whether to laugh or cry at that... Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,237 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jason said: "Liverpool have a good relationship with RB Leipzig, but they now value him at significantly less than £30m." Don't know whether to laugh or cry at that... deffo LOLOLOLOLOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 "Liverpool have a good relationship with RB Leipzig, but they now value him at significantly less than £30m." Don't know whether to laugh or cry at that...Mirror, so BS anywayGesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Mirror, so BS anyway Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk  Most likely but IF Liverpool are stupid enough, then maybe, just MAYBE... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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