Radamel Falcao

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Maybe I am harsh but it is true. He chose to end his career at the top when he moved to Monaco at the best moment of his career. He now uses his name and past glories to get the most money. The Kalou example was to show how poor a league he was playing in, so you can't really say it was only one bad season when he was semi retired the season before.

FIrst of all, i dont get that "semi retired" thing, he moved to Monaco, like James, Moutinho and Kondogbia, to a club who was supposed to continue getting top playes but things went differently. Than he got injured in January and his season ended. Until than he played and scored goals.

Now, there are things you might dont know about Falcao. He never really "Chose" to move to Monaco. Falcao is owned by a group called Doyen - Doyen is a company who represents players and coches, and Mendes is apparently invloved in it (well, he is, but its not official), and they basicaly own and have a specific contract with some of their players - they tell the players where they'll play, in return the player gets amazing contracts and they push his career. Falcao is one of them. Doyen is also connected to Porto, Monaco, Atletico, some Chinese/Brazilian/Portuguese business men and investors. Media knows little about it, they are very protected, but the image is that its a dubious and fishy group, which tries to make the most money for their players and push everyone's interests. Falcao didnt have a choice, its his contract, Doyen told him where he's going to sign. Doyen wanted Monaco to get strong quick and reach CL spot. James, Moutinho and Kondogbia are also players Mendes represents and thats no coincidence that back than there were more Mendes's players who Monaco wanted.

[DYC. 7,542]

TPO; he had no/minimal say. Look it up, there's a famous, detailed post on reddit.

I remember reading something about him being 'forced' to make the move a long time ago. So you think it's true? Didn't know what to make of it back then, but I guess it makes sense looking at his situation right now.

[Waterfall 893]

One beyond terrible season after a semi retired season in Monaco where he was out-scored by Salomon Kalou with a weaker Lille team.

He's not getting his main asset, his pace, back after that injury, and it's evident that he has lost his finishing touch. There is literally NOTHING at the moment that would make anyone want him except his name. He's showed nothing footballing wise that would make a club like Chelsea want him in a long time.

I think we've had enough of signing washed up ex-stars because they are marketable.

I don't think you know Falcao very well. His pace has always been very average for a striker and wasn't even close to being his main asset. It was his positioning and world class finishing ability. I don't want him, but I'd be more optimistic about this (assuming massive pay cut) than Torres

[nadavTKL 1,787]

More about Doyen: http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1e8ncw/explaining_the_falcao_move_to_monaco

[lionsden 4,689]

Some people haven't learned their lesson from the torres debacle, I see.

[Tomo 21,751]

Some people haven't learned their lesson from the torres debacle, I see.

Bottom line: Falcao is finished. He's Torres 2.0. I just can't see him being lethal again.

I just recovered from the Torres nightmare, I don't want another.

He will never be another Torres nightmare even if he flops as bad.

Torres was on a 180k a week long term deal, there was simply no way of getting rid of him and we were insistent on building the team around Torres because of the price tag.

If Falcao comes on one year loan with reduced wages and flops he will spend most weeks in the stands while we play Costa and Remy so no big deal in the grand scheme of thing's and even if he could say give us a similar level of performance to what Eto'o gave us that wouldn't be too disastrous either.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Lol some people are acting like we're gonna make him our record signing and make him our highest paid player.

The only way this goes down is if he is cool with being a squad player on squad player wages.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Monaco don't want to pay his wages anymore which is why they set up the loan this season to the most desperate club in the world and they'll try to do it again next season, we're not desperate.

If Diego can have a successful operation on his hamstring and is thus expected to miss a lot less games, I'd be happy with Solanke as third choice. Else, Chicharito would be a brilliant third choice and offer us something different than both Diego and Remy. Madrid have not taken the option to sign him and utd don't want him so he'll be available for cheap.

Well I don't think they have a choice since he's under contract. Falcao clearly has ambition and is motivated to find his game again, like I said if he has a decent Copa America I'd give him a look in... How bad could it be?

I really doubt Jose will entrust a youth product with that role, I think he feels someone like Dom needs to be playing lots. Chica is interesting but I feel the risk/reward of Falcao is much higher, I see your point though there.

[The Skipper 20,609]

I don't mind him as a squad player on squad wages tbh. He's still okay enough to be our 3rd choice striker. That's if he's willing to come here under that.

[LAM09 7,043]

I can't see him coming here. His wages alone will be a major put off.

[Mechromancer 262]

Well, Drogba earned 100k per week. And that's a lot.

If he can accept a similar salary, i suppose is okay if Mou want the trade.

[mikeholiday 209]

Actually, it MIGHT be a low risk, high reward move. THAT IS IF he takes a 100K+ pay cut and it's a small loan fee. Ive no idea how much Utd paid Monaco for him.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

I still dont know why did Monaco loan him out...they bought him for 50m or sth and they loan him out without obligation to buy. Quite a bad bussines if you ask me.

They lost big player (considering no one knew how will he perform this season) and got nothing for it.

Unless Monaco cant afford to pay his wages or United paid quite a lot money off the record for that loan.

He was on like 250k per week. Even if he takes massive pay cut, he would still get around 150k which is waay too much for third striker or better say for someone who had such poor season.

The only good thing is that he wants to take pay cut if he can play for big club again and try to prove himself. Could be good motivation. But apart from that, he is past it. Lost his pace and confidence, hard to gain that back.

[Mechromancer 262]

The salary is the main reason for his loan, i believe. The FFP just fucked everything

So his contract is a big problem for the club who have the rights. And they don't have many options because exist a difference then and now; when he went to Manchester, the guy still had some cache, but now.... They and the player can't demand anything. Especially the club.

[Madmax 9,219]

I remember reading something about him being 'forced' to make the move a long time ago. So you think it's true? Didn't know what to make of it back then, but I guess it makes sense looking at his situation right now.

Yeah, his hands were completely tied with the TPO deal he entered into while he was still in South America. Same goes for Atletico at the time of his sale to Monaco. Read the post nadavKTL linked above, it's the one I was talking about.