CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 How much would they all cost though... RVP cost half of what falcao would cost, but he is 2 and a half years older and would have cost a lot more if we bought him as arsenal would not have let us have him for as cheap... Cavani, we would be lucky to get him for less than 45 mil. Ibra, exactly the same, so there is no way any of them would be any cheaper than falcao, and there is no debating they are all quality strikers. I would have falcao over all them 3 but its not like i wouldn't have cavani or be excited if we were being linked to him.I was talking purely on ability and not price, but I don't want to go off topic here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Match winner is the most glaring of all and truly there aren't that many out there that are available. Goals win games not Modric.... Look at Utd, they had Rooney, Chica, Welbeck, Berba and they still ignored their concerns in the midfield and grabbed one of the worlds best strikers.Exactly, the reason we never claw back deficits is because of this.People go on bout Fergie time but why is that? Because when their losing he sticks 3 sometimes 4 forwards on the pitch which instinctively makes the opponents shit themself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 What's the solution to that?older players. the next few signings should be in the 24-28 age bracket imo. players with PL experience wouldn't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 its like you didnt read my post at all (and dont know enough about football). They wont merk Bilbao (of last season, Bilbao are pretty poor now). United havent improve anything but improve their attack force, so Bilbao would still play the better football and control the game."Regardless, you can look at any formidable team in Europe and I guarantee you will find holes. What you won't find is a lack of finishers"maybe, but there are teams with much less "holes" than united. They shouldnt be an example, absolutely not.Bilbao last year would get destroyed by Utd this year, no question about it... Too many goal scoring options to have to deal with. My opinion.Regardless you look at every top side they have a formidable striker, who is ours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 older players. the next few signings should be in the 24-28 age bracket imo. players with PL experience wouldn't hurt. 100% agree! no more young wonderkids we need players in their prime, they don't come cheap though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Bilbao last year would get destroyed by Utd this year, no question about it... To many goal scoring options to have to deal with. My opinion.Regardless you look at every top side they have a formidable striker, who is ours? Ivanovic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Regardless you look at every top side they have a formidable striker, who is ours? How many of those strikers cost 50m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 100% agree! no more young wonderkids we need players in their prime, they don't come cheap thoughThis is part reason why lampy and cole should be offered new contracts. Cole is just 32 and still has a few years in him, with priceless experience, and we all know what lamps can give us and is still fit. I would give cole a 2 year deal, then a recurring 1 year deal based on performance and give lampy a 1 year recurring contract like scholes and giggs. Talent and youth is all well and good but we need a bit of experience and chelsea legends, even if it is for more motivational and team based reasons than them being pure quality (which lampy will always be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 How many of those strikers cost 50m?Those types don't get sold. That's why we this is a rare opportunity.Van P went for half as much as Falcao but he's 2.5 yrs older. Ibra is in his 30's that's the difference right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 How many of those strikers cost 50m?Not many... But the better question is how many formidable strikers would we get for much less than 50 mil and the answer is exactly the same... Not many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,489 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Exactly, the reason we never claw back deficits is because of this.People go on bout Fergie time but why is that? Because when their losing he sticks 3 sometimes 4 forwards on the pitch which instinctively makes the opponents shit themself. another point to add to that. fergie stations young/evra on the left and valencia/rafael on the right. all 4 (rafael - borderline) are brilliant crossers of the ball. united create late pressure by spreading the play wide and putting it into the box where one of the strikers stick it away.even we resort to long balls and set-piece pressure late on in a desperate attempt to put the ball in but we have next to nothing in terms of aerial power or presence upfront. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Bilbao last year would get destroyed by Utd this year, no question about it... To many goal scoring options to have to deal with. My opinion.Regardless you look at every top side they have a formidable striker, who is ours? There is a question about it. United are struggling against shity teams in PL this season, they would struggle against Bilbao of last season who can easily hart their weaknesses. You dont have any proof they would destory them because United arent good against this kind of football, i have proofs.I never said we have a good striker, what do you want.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 There is a question about it. United are struggling against shity teams in PL this season, they would struggle against Bilbao of last season who can easily hart their weaknesses. You dont have any proof they would destory them because United arent good against this kind of football, i have proofs.I never said we have a good striker, what do you want....Agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Agree to disagree. You dont have an example of a game which United destroyed a team that plays like Bilbao played. How your opinion can be convincing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 You dont have an example of a game which United destroyed a team that plays like Bilbao played. How your opinion can be convincing?Agree to disagree this is an asinine debate son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Those types don't get sold. That's why we this is a rare opportunity.Van P went for half as much as Falcao but he's 2.5 yrs older. Ibra is in his 30's that's the difference right there.Cavani was sold to Napoli for around 15m pounds. Falcao was sold to Atletico for 40m euros. Aguero was sold to Man city for 35m pounds.This is how it normally is. All the top teams bought their strikers from somewhere, but the fees are always around 35m or lower.Not many... But the better question is how many formidable strikers would we get for much less than 50 mil and the answer is exactly the same... Not many.Depends on what you call formidable, it doesn't have to be a massive name, but they're many players out there with a reputation of scoring loads of goals, and will probably do the same in the PL. And won't cost 50m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Cavani was sold to Napoli for around 15m pounds. Falcao was sold to Atletico for 40m euros. Aguero was sold to Man city for 35m pounds.This is how it normally is. All the top teams bought their strikers from somewhere, but the fees are always around 35m or lower.Depends on what you call formidable, it doesn't have to be a massive name, but they're many players out there with a reputation of scoring loads of goals, and will probably do the same in the PL. And won't cost 50m.Demba ba is great but i wouldn't call him formidable.. Any proven player we buy will cost us more than they are worth because we are chelsea. Which is the annoying fact of the matter. Cavani will cost a lot more, aguero would cost us a lot more. etc. It doesn't have to be a massive name, but we are always forced to pay more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Demba ba is great but i wouldn't call him formidable.. Any proven player we buy will cost us more than they are worth because we are chelsea. Which is the annoying fact of the matter. Cavani will cost a lot more, aguero would cost us a lot more. etc. It doesn't have to be a massive name, but we are always forced to pay more.Aguero would have cost us exactly what Man city paid. I believe he had a release clause also.And you're right people ask for more from Chelsea, but it's not like all of a sudden a 10m player would become 30m. Cavani for example can be bought for 35m, but it depends on whether he wants to leave Napoli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Cavani was sold to Napoli for around 15m pounds. Falcao was sold to Atletico for 40m euros. Aguero was sold to Man city for 35m pounds.This is how it normally is. All the top teams bought their strikers from somewhere, but the fees are always around 35m or lower.Depends on what you call formidable, it doesn't have to be a massive name, but they're many players out there with a reputation of scoring loads of goals, and will probably do the same in the PL. And won't cost 50m.Oh boy... Was Cavani world class before he went to Napoli? Falcao went for about as much as he was worth after two great seasons at Porto, has he done anything to diminish his value in La Liga? See Falcao for Aguero. A players value is dependent on their history and form... Its really quite simple we're meeting Falcao's buyout so we can get him now. If we wait till the summer there will be a bidding war for his services between City, PSG, Real... If we miss out on CL there is every reason to believe he will go somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadavTKL 1,787 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Cavani for example can be bought for 35m, but it depends on whether he wants to leave Napoli.I realy dont think so. Napoli said he will leave for more, dont remmember how much, and i think he have a release clause for around 50m euros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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