Mustafa 885 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 It's only February but by now you kind of have an idea of who the nominees are gonna be and who might take the prize home.My nominees: Agüero, Alexis, Costa, Fàbregas, Hazard, KanePrevious Winners: http://www.thepfa.com/thepfa/pfaawards/winnersAlso, what's been the best performance of the season so far? Plenty to choose from. Hazard vs Spurs (A) has probably been the best we've seen from our players. But Harry Kane did dominate us. Agüero's 4 goals against Spurs? Fun fact: The last two winners of the trophy have left the Premier League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 its between Alexis or Hazard who will win it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sanchez for me, he's single-handedly dragged them through their injuries and non-availabilities whereas Hazard, Cesc, Costa, Silva, Aguero etc all while being great players having great seasons also have the luxury of playing in far better teams with far better team mates around them. Kane for Young POTY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sanchez for me, he's single-handedly dragged them through their injuries and non-availabilities whereas Hazard, Cesc, Costa, Silva, Aguero etc all while being great players having great seasons also have the luxury of playing in far better teams with far better team mates around them. Kane for Young POTY.Sanchez has been phenomenal this season, his overall play is almost on Hazard's level but he takes the edge for producing more at the final third for me. I think no other player is having as big a impact for his team as Alexis. But I could see any of Hazard or Cesc overtaking Sanchez depending on how they perform until the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sanchez for me, he's single-handedly dragged them through their injuries and non-availabilities whereas Hazard, Cesc, Costa, Silva, Aguero etc all while being great players having great seasons also have the luxury of playing in far better teams with far better team mates around them. Kane for Young POTY.LOL. and Sanchez is on course of being part of the first Arsenal team to not qualify for the Champions League! and he goes missing in big games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 whoever plays the best in the title run in, out of Hazard, Fabregas and Costa will obviously get it, no one else has any chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 LOL. and Sanchez is on course of being part of the first Arsenal team to not qualify for the Champions League! and he goes missing in big games!It's bizarre that you're being so dismissive because without Sanchez they'd be mid-table and not even within sniffing distance of top 4. He's the most well-rounded attacker in the league with direct involvement in 19 goals (12 goals + 7 assists), not far off behind Costa (19; 17 + 2) or Aguero (20; 16+4) and in fact ahead of Cesc (17; 2+15), Hazard (14; 9 + 5) and Silva (9; 7+2) ... all this in a team that's been missing Giroud, Walcott and Ozil for most of the season thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 It's bizarre that you're being so dismissive over such non-considerations like league position because without Sanchez they'd be mid-table and not even within sniffing distance of top 4. He's the most well-rounded attacker in the league with direct involvement in 19 goals (12 goals + 7 assists), not far off behind Costa (19; 17 + 2) or Aguero (20; 16+4) and in fact ahead of Cesc (17; 2+15), Hazard (14; 9 + 5) and Silva (9; 7+2) ... all this in a team that's been missing Giroud, Walcott and Ozil for most of the season thus far.its bizarre that you actually believe Arsenal would mid table without Sanchez! dont be ridiculous, they would obviously still be where they are now, if they never had Sanchez someone else would step up, and if your talking stats, what are Sanchez's stats against the top teams? and you do realize playing with a group of players who dont get many goals or assists its easier to have better stats, if Hazard was in that Arsenal team instead of Sanchez he would be the same, but Hazard still has very good numbers in a team where Costa, Fabregas and Oscar all get their fair share of goals and assists.Look at Hazard last season he carried Chelsea in attack and performed in big games unlike Sanchez. Its bizarre that you think someone who performs against the smaller teams and goes missing in big games can be POTY, when in reality Arsenal always do well against the smaller teams with or without Sanchez, so to say he has carried them is pretty ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sanchez has been phenomenal this season, his overall play is almost on Hazard's level but he takes the edge for producing more at the final third for me. I think no other player is having as big a impact for his team as Alexis. But I could see any of Hazard or Cesc overtaking Sanchez depending on how they perform until the end of the season.One of the biggest myths of the season that Sanchez has carried Arsenal. He only plays well against the smaller teams who Arsenal always do well against anyway! don't be fooled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 its bizarre that you actually believe Arsenal would mid table without Sanchez! dont be ridiculous, they would obviously still be where they are now, if they never had Sanchez someone else would step up, and if your talking stats, what are Sanchez's stats against the top teams? and you do realize playing with a group of players who dont get many goals or assists its easier to have better stats, if Hazard was in that Arsenal team instead of Sanchez he would be the same, but Hazard still has very good numbers in a team where Costa, Fabregas and Oscar all get their fair share of goals and assists.So let me get this straight - one the one hand you say anyone could've "stepped up" and gotten the numbers Sanchez has and on the other you say it's easier for him as he's in a team where nobody else is capable of getting those numbers? Flawless logic. Look at Hazard last season he carried Chelsea in attack and performed in big games unlike Sanchez. Its bizarre that you think someone who performs against the smaller teams and goes missing in big games can be POTY, when in reality Arsenal always do well against the smaller teams with or without Sanchez, so to say he has carried them is pretty ridiculous.I admit he hasn't stood out consistently in these so-called big games you're all hung up about (although I can remember a beautiful goal vs City and another couple of good performances vs City away and United, I think) but that's natural because Arsenal are normally the worse side as a whole when compared to these opponents and that difference manifests itself. Besides, everyone on this list will underperform in some of these games - Aguero was nothing special in 180 mins against us, Hazard didn't travel well against United or Liverpool and the Fabregas thread is full of complaints about his fading away against the big boys. Again, you have your opinion but the general consensus in some of the other threads is that he's the one missing link in our attack and we should have snapped him up last summer or the one earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo7 3,496 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 The amount of hype behind Kane at the moment, you know its going to be him. One season wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 One of the biggest myths of the season that Sanchez has carried Arsenal. He only plays well against the smaller teams who Arsenal always do well against anyway! don't be fooledEvery game is important to win the league, if beating the big ones was all that mattered we would have won the league last season. Regardless of that, from the top of my head I remember he has at least one good game against the bigs in Manchester City, I think he even scored that game. He's also on fire in the champions league and his stats in this season are not too far from Hazard's (same amount of key passes per game, a very respectable number of successful dribbles per game - probably one of the best in Europe after the likes of Hazard, Robben and Messi, almost as fouled every game as Hazard), while at the same time having a better work rate, he averages 2 tackles and 1 interception per game in the PL, he runs all day long and never tires, he's like a mix between Willian and Hazard plus the killer instinct that both seem to lack, very underrated player tbh. Hazard has better passing, dribble and ball control over him, even then it's not by a landslide. It's impossible to consider Eden one of the best performers and not Alexis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sanchez has been phenomenal this season, his overall play is almost on Hazard's level but he takes the edge for producing more at the final third for me. I think no other player is having as big a impact for his team as Alexis. But I could see any of Hazard or Cesc overtaking Sanchez depending on how they perform until the end of the season.Sanchez has scored more goals but considering we have Costa, Hazard has not needed to score the amounts Alexis has as we have our main striker. Arsenal have had Giroud injured for parts of the season, Welbeck is inconsistent as fuck while we have a prolific striker. Apart from the goals, Sanchez has not been much better than Hazard. For instance, Hazard has the most chances created in the final third and tops the PL for most created chances. Just look at the stats from whoscored the other day. Says it all. I wouldn't say Hazard has been better but they both have been excellent in their own ways. Sancehz stands out more because he scores more goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sanchez has scored more goals but considering we have Costa, Hazard has not needed to score the amounts Alexis has as we have our main striker. Arsenal have had Giroud injured for parts of the season, Welbeck is inconsistent as fuck while we have a prolific striker. Apart from the goals, Sanchez has not been much better than Hazard. For instance, Hazard has the most chances created in the final third and tops the PL for most created chances. Just look at the stats from whoscored the other day. Says it all. I wouldn't say Hazard has been better but they both have been excellent in their own ways. Sancehz stands out more because he scores more goals.Hazard also has more minutes played, their output per minute should be very close. I don't think the difference in goals is only due to that. Alexis has very good goal instincts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 I admit he hasn't stood out consistently in these so-called big games you're all hung up about (although I can remember a beautiful goal vs City and another couple of good performances vs City away and United, I think) but that's natural because Arsenal are normally the worse side as a whole when compared to these opponents and that difference manifests itself. Besides, everyone on this list will underperform in some of these games - Aguero was nothing special in 180 mins against us, Hazard didn't travel well against United or Liverpool and the Fabregas thread is full of complaints about his fading away against the big boys. Again, you have your opinion but the general consensus in some of the other threads is that he's the one missing link in our attack and we should have snapped him up last summer or the one earlier.You must be confusing games, Eden was superb vs United. The only thing he could be blamed for is missing the the 1 on 1 with De Gea.I don't think anyone else than Sanchez is going to prize. He has the stats to back him up and multiple MOTM prizes and it's only his first season in the PL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Hazard also has more minutes played, their output per minute should be very close. I don't think the difference in goals is only due to that. Alexis has very good goal instincts.That works both way imo. If Sanchez played every single game, hardly being benched, he could easily suffer from fatigue or not be as effective. Look when Sterling had that 2 week break. It done the world of good for him and he started performing excellently. If Hazard was given a little break, it would do him the world of good but right now we just can't because he is that good so the fact that Hazard has kept up to those standards is even more testament to how consistent and brilliant he has been. He has started every single PL game this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 You must be confusing games, Eden was superb vs United. The only thing he could be blamed for is missing the the 1 on 1 with De Gea.I don't think anyone else than Sanchez is going to prize. He has the stats to back him up and multiple MOTM prizes and it's only his first season in the PL.Nope, to be superb he needed to be decisive, which he wasn't. Not to say he was bad, but I expected more from him back then because he was capable of more. Thankfully he's improved a lot in that respect, as the City and Spurs games show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 it'd be such an abomination if Hazard doesn't win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Nope, to be superb he needed to be decisive, which he wasn't. Not to say he was bad, but I expected more from him back then because he was capable of more. Thankfully he's improved a lot in that respect, as the City and Spurs games show.Decisive as in Goals/Assists? I think it's up to people's perspective. For me he was decisive enough. Created chances, won fouls, corners(drogba goal). I can't think of any other better player on that pitch.Goals/Assists is the reason Eden doesn't have much of a shot at winning this prize in the first place, or the Ballon d'or for that matter. but If you're talking about the level of the performance in those games, then you know Eden is the standout player. Based on consistency, I think he edges out everyone in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 So let me get this straight - one the one hand you say anyone could've "stepped up" and gotten the numbers Sanchez has and on the other you say it's easier for him as he's in a team where nobody else is capable of getting those numbers? Flawless logic.no i am saying other players would have stepped up and won those games for Arsenal against the samller teams like they usually do, not someone else getting those numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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