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[Styles 9,790]

I counted 8 counters he messed up.....

If willian messes up 1-2, this board wants his head....

Cr7 can never be a great of all time primarily because of this. His passing is terrible and he needs 10 shots to score 1-2 goals a game, which is why for portugal he sucks balls because on portugal he can never get as many opportunites as he does for madrid...

On redcafe..

He was Barcelona's best defender today. Broke up more Madrid attacks than Pique and Mascherano

People who understand that football is more than just goals already recognise Ronaldo's exceedingly average all round game and football IQ. I have always seen him as a pacy goal machine and nothing more

people are too blinded by his goals (which are vitally important ofcourse) to see how poor he usually his in the build up play and decision making like shooting from ridiculous angle when a simple pass would suffice. His technical ability and qualities (Passing, Vision, close control and ability to play in tight spaces) are all very overrated too. that's a major reason I can never rate him amongst the very elite to ever play the game. The true football elites captured people's imagination and inspired their teams in more ways than just scoring goals.

To me he's an elite forward/striker but not an elite footballer.

Both right.

Ronaldo is a great goalscorer, that's not even in question, but as an all-round player he can be ridiculously average. His passing, vision, playmaking ability etc all leave a lot to be desired. Honestly, this guy is supposedly the best player in the world but you can't trust him to make relatively simple passes even when in acres of space. This is the guy people beat players like Hazard about and say he's not on that level and never will be etc and it's an absolute joke.

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At Neymar's age, (22) Messi scored 47 goals in the 2009-10 season.

If Neymar wants to even be a pitch's length away from Messi's goal scoring record, he should probably pick up the pace, which in all reality won't probably happen.

Neymar is at 9 goals in 8 games after coming back from his big injury being option number 2-3......

Messi at that age was option 1 and the team revolve around Messi... Messi is still probably always going to be the overall better player, but it wouldnt surprise me if Neymar beat both cr7/messi single year record...

[Nike 373]

That's pretty much an oxymoron right there. Anyone but Messi fanboys can see Ronaldo is currently better than Messi. Messi was better 1-2 years ago which wasn't even up for debate, he was awesome. If he recaptures that form then he'll likely once again be the best in the world. But in recent times Messi's form has dropped (unsurprising, you can't keep that kind of awesomeness up) and Ronaldo's has drastically increased. And they're both very similar in natural ability so the best at the present time has to be the one who is more on form currently - which is Ronaldo hands down.

Actually, every professional footballer thinks Messi is a better player than cr7....

cr7 so called form is due to him taking 10 shots a game.

And in football terms, no their natural ability is at 2 different levels... One knows had to dribble at players, the other excels at useless stepovers. Something, Neymar has in his repetoire sadly...

Scoring goals is not being better, if that was the case, lampard would be the greatest cm ever when everyone outside of england and even outside of london disagrees.

[Nike 373]

Doesn't matter...

This guy is better than both of them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_C9CsERXnE

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Actually, every professional footballer thinks Messi is a better player than cr7....

cr7 so called form is due to him taking 10 shots a game.

And in football terms, no their natural ability is at 2 different levels... One knows had to dribble at players, the other excels at useless stepovers. Something, Neymar has in his repetoire sadly...

Scoring goals is not being better, if that was the case, lampard would be the greatest cm ever when everyone outside of england and even outside of london disagrees.

You do know the Ballon d'Or is voted for by players too yeah? And Ronaldo won it last year and is odds on to win it this year?

Ronaldo only excels at useless stepovers? Dear god. I'm done with this if that is truly what you think. You're beyond help.

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You do know the Ballon d'Or is voted for by players too yeah? And Ronaldo won it last year and is odds on to win it this year?

You see how players voted right???

They all voted for their teammates and friends.....

Or maybe the fact that cr7 gave alves the captain votes so alves can vote for cr7, lol....

cr7 won the award because he bitched about the award and for some reason they extended the voting right after he put past 4 against sweden in a playoff game...

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Doesn't matter...

This guy is better than both of them...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_C9CsERXnE

That I can agree on. Ronaldo at his peak is as good as Messi at his peak.

[Nike 373]

That I can agree on. Ronaldo at his peak is as good as Messi at his peak.

Correction. Ronaldo at his peak is better than Messi, but Messi is better than Cristiano.

I still think ronaldinho at his peak is better than Messi and even though Messi won a lot for barca, a lot of barca fans still feel the same way about r10vs messi.

On a side note, this guy should of been the king of the world...

This guy in pes had a 100 shooting power stat back in 06.

This guy was cr7 with proper technique/skill.

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[Atlas Lion 1,223]

Neymar is at 9 goals in 8 games after coming back from his big injury being option number 2-3......

Messi at that age was option 1 and the team revolve around Messi... Messi is still probably always going to be the overall better player, but it wouldnt surprise me if Neymar beat both cr7/messi single year record...

Single year record? So he's going to beat 91 goals then?

[Nike 373]

Single year record? So he's going to beat 91 goals then?

La liga record is beatable....

Give neymar free kicks/pks and make him the center of the offense, I bet he can beat it...

Let neymar play the full 90 against scrub teams so he can boost his stats...

from pks, he can get 5 goals

from fks, he can get another 5 goals...

Neymar already has scored his la liga amount from last year...

[Atlas Lion 1,223]

La liga record is beatable....

Give neymar free kicks/pks and make him the center of the offense, I bet he can beat it...

Let neymar play the full 90 against scrub teams so they can boost their stats...

from pks, he can get 5 goals

from fks, he can get another 5 goals...

Basing things off assumptions really doesn't make your arguments any more credible.