Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 6, 2014 Author Share Posted September 6, 2014 Yes vote in the lead now according to one pollhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29096458 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 This reminds me of the Australian republic referendum a decade ago. it failed but I do see Australia becoming a republic in my lifetime. Australia is separated by a great distance with no real benefits from staying with the Commonwealth. We as a country will become stronger and wealthier by aligning us closer to our Asian neighbours.But the UK and Scotland is a whole different ball game and I don't have the knowledge to have an opinion. Whatever the result it will make a great topic for a documentary. IF it does become an interdependent Scotland than maybe it be closer to the AUS & NZ alliance. NZ doesn't have a real army and we act as a bigger brother yet they have they own constitution & currency plus we can live in either country without a visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NishC300 1,865 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 Because that's what the 'Yes' campaign pushed for.What's a bigger joke is that only current residents of Scotland can vote.Any Scottish person living in England, Wales or NI cannot - that's just ridiculous - this is severely limiting the 'rational' thought processes.The term 'Freedom' is also being bandied about - what exactly is Scotland not free to do, that other parts of the UK are?- free healthcare - check- free schooling - check- free movement - check- religious freedom - checkThe list is endless ..It's more of an argument of proportional representation that has been blown out of all context and is now being promoted as 'freedom' under a nationalist movement - claiming oppression.I seriously believe Scots that vote yes and achieve independence will all expect to be millionaires the next morning.Very little will change for the average Scots person initially - the real gamble is for the generation after this, that's where the issues will become more prevalent.The more I debate it in my own mind the angrier I become about the farcical way that 'solid facts' are missing from both the Yes and No campAs I said many times - a real shame it has come to this... But within weeks we will see We can't vote during the elections from here either.There was an interesting debate about this on the BBC World Service yesterday and there was a debate that if Scotland were to vote YES then which currency would they use. The issue was that if they stick with the pound then the interest rates set by the Bank of England may not be tailored for the Scottish economy (which really shouldn't be an issue since they've been using the pound for ages).And if they were to pick the Euro then they'd still not be able to influence the interest rates much either since major EU Countries will have more influence in deciding what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 Oh dear. The entire Westminster establishment is simply a bad joke north of Carlisle, and every time they open their mouths the Yes campaign puts on another point. Cameron, Miliband and Darling are a godsend for Scottish independence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky 739 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 So if yes then what will happen with BBC services to Scotland ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 7, 2014 Author Share Posted September 7, 2014 The most far-reaching settlement would be for an independent Scotland to sever its links to the BBC entirely, and set up a new state broadcasting network. That would mean BBC audiences would have to subscribe to Sky or cable services which included BBC channels in their packages. Scotland would raise its own licence fee, and operate its own spectrum, transmitters and broadcasting authority. The SNP think they can come to some arrangement similar to Eire though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 So Scottish athletes won't be able to compete at Olympics, they are going to set up guarded borders between England and Scotland and we CANT have the pound.Yes people are crazy they are going to destroy Scotland and a wonderful 300 year union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 So Scottish athletes won't be able to compete at Olympics, they are going to set up guarded borders between England and Scotland and we CANT have the pound.Yes people are crazy they are going to destroy Scotland and a wonderful 300 year union I think the Union might want Murray on their side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Found this on Twitter (in response to the news of Kate's pregnancy): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 9, 2014 Author Share Posted September 9, 2014 Owen Jones- ‘I have never had an interest in defending the union’TRANSLATION:-‘I have always had an interest in re-positioning my principles for personal political and financial gain’Scotland just might save us from being dragged into the war that US-EU-NATO is planning against Russia- ‘Horse kicks apple cart’? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lion 5 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 This reminds me of the Australian republic referendum a decade ago. it failed but I do see Australia becoming a republic in my lifetime. Australia is separated by a great distance with no real benefits from staying with the Commonwealth. We as a country will become stronger and wealthier by aligning us closer to our Asian neighbours.But the UK and Scotland is a whole different ball game and I don't have the knowledge to have an opinion. Whatever the result it will make a great topic for a documentary. IF it does become an interdependent Scotland than maybe it be closer to the AUS & NZ alliance. NZ doesn't have a real army and we act as a bigger brother yet they have they own constitution & currency plus we can live in either country without a visa.Yeah agree with that. Aust will be republic within 10 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 Cameron, Clegg, Milliband, Prescott, all gone to Scotland today in last ditch attempt for a No vote.Many working class in Scotland have a once in a lifetime opportunity to get rid of the tories for ever, and see that as attractive. They are sick of, as are a lot in England and Wales, minimum wage zero hours jobs, and foodbanks in one of the richest countries in the World. They see Socialist Salmond as a saviour.Polls neck and neck at the moment, couldnt be closer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterScot 2 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Cameron, Clegg & Milliband are all fighting for their own jobs and acting in their own best interests.I don't think they give two hoots about Scotland or GB unless it is going to personally affect them in some shape or form.Oh and by the way I think the Tories are doing a grand job of helping Salmond achieve his majority YES vote. Scotland has never truly forgiven Thatcher, Heseltine & Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC RYAN CFC 59 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Hoping for a No vote but most of the signs about the place are yes posters. I think the better together campaign are getting the undecided voters on there side. How anyone can say we will be better as a independant country I will never know. There is no plan for currancy, loads of job cuts, what will happen with the NHS ? I just think its a massive gamble not worth taking. Also some of the actions of YES voters have been disgusting am not saying the NO campaign is perfect but YES are by far the worst. People are been warned at work the now of pay cuts and pay offs this is including NHS workers. So let's hope for a NO vote or the country will be a awful place to live. Here's a video showing some actions not sure if it will upload using an iPad ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDi1OXJn4Vw&feature=youtube_gdata_player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Saw this today, brilliant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Nobody knows how long the Scottish oil will last. The industrial sector is declining and most other jobs are based in English companies. Companies which will move to London, when Scotland should be independent. Calling itself "independent" whilst being dependent on the money policy of the Bank of England is a farce anyway. They want independence but still want to stay in Nato and EU, keep the pound and the jobs English companies offer? The only thing they want to change is that they have to share the oil. Also this hurray-nationalism is not only ridiculous but would also be dangerous if Scotland had any kind of power.Naive nationalism and wanting all oil for themselves have never been healthy motives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 In a way its a shame theres this vote at all, though I can see why some Scots are sick of the austerity imposed on them by the bullingdon club millionaires. Its a shame because whatever the result there will be a division amongst the Scottish people.To my mind we needed a radical scrutiny of the way the UK is run as a whole eg theres no written constitution, we are in law 'royal subjects'not citizens. Its the 21st century ffs.On the positive it has rocked complacent Londoncentric rule, and regardless of the outcome , it can show that it is possible for people to have more control of their own lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 One Day till 'Aye' or ' Nae' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC RYAN CFC 59 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 One Day till 'Aye' or ' Nae'Hopefully no till we shut up Salmond and his gang. Really dreading a yes vote and will be tempted to leave the country if it's a yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,347 Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hopefully no till we shut up Salmond and his gang. Really dreading a yes vote and will be tempted to leave the country if it's a yes.Changing my broadband and just speaking to a lass in Lanarkshire. Said she was sick of it, and had seen quite a lot of intimidation just walking to work. I asked her had she decided, she said "I think Salmond is an arrogant prick, excuse ma French" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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