CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Took an underachieving Spainish NT and made them the most dominant NT probably in history. RIPhttp://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/5456/international-football/2014/02/01/4586799/spain-european-championship-winning-coach-luis-aragones-dies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weckerz 3,781 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 That the one that called Henry 'il negro'? Rip I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 That the one that called Henry 'il negro'? Rip I guessHe called him black shit if I remember correctly. That was/is unforgivable in my book.He made Spain what they are today though so he was a brilliant manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 RIP ohh some ppl are opening the racist files i see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 10,227 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 RIP. Every manager has there bad moments and the one mentioned above is obviously his. That said he turned the Spanish national team into what they are today so big ups for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Without Aragone we wouldn't have seen Spain win as much in that particular style they play and potentially Barcelona under Guardiola excel so much with a similar philosophy. Like Cruyff someone who has truly had a greater influence than what many believe in football. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 RIPohh some ppl are opening the racist files i see.He called Henry's mother a prostitute too. Even beyond race what kind of fucked up shit is that? To say to a guy who was at the same club and would have to look that man in the eye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Took an underachieving Spainish NT and made them the most dominant NT probably in history. RIPhttp://www.goal.com/en-sg/news/5456/international-football/2014/02/01/4586799/spain-european-championship-winning-coach-luis-aragones-dies1 WC and 2 Euros doesnt make Spain the most NT in history. Not even close! Anyway...RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beirut_Blues 306 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 He called Henry's mother a prostitute too. Even beyond race what kind of fucked up shit is that? To say to a guy who was at the same club and would have to look that man in the eye?you're absolutely right.however i would prefer to look at the positives in his life..such as what ppl mentioned above regarding his influence on the national team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AswinR 96 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 1 WC and 2 Euros doesnt make Spain the most NT in history. Not even close! Anyway...RIPmaybe not as much as brazil but between 2006(since d WC) and till today....spain is considerd the most powerful NT around.... only teams to go head to head with them are germany and brazil .... and even now spain is considered at par if not favourites in any match with them....thats says a lot!!Spain was like portugal & england..gr8 on the paper but screws up in real time!!Aragones changed all that and brought the best out of them.....As a manager a legend...as an individual not so much..RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 1 WC and 2 Euros doesnt make Spain the most NT in history. Not even close! Anyway...RIPHow many NTs have won two consecutive Euros and the WC between them? Maybe not the most dominant in history, but surely one of the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 How many NTs have won two consecutive Euros and the WC between them? Maybe not the most dominant in history, but surely one of the most.How can you say Spain was one of the most dominant NT when they lost the Confederations Cup twice and never beat a top South American country?I can name at least 4 different NT generations that were better than Spain. The difference is they got lucky their team ruled in an era where no other country was good enough...Spain was a brilliant team, but sorry, it is not even close when you compare it with Brazil in the 60s-70s, Germany and Argentina in the 80s, Italy in the late 80s and early 90s and Brazil in the late 90s and early 00s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 How can you say Spain was one of the most dominant NT when they lost the Confederations Cup twice and never beat a top South American country?I can name at least 4 different NT generations that were better than Spain. The difference is they got lucky their team ruled in an era where no other country was good enough...Spain was a brilliant team, but sorry, it is not even close when you compare it with Brazil in the 60s-70s, Germany and Argentina in the 80s, Italy in the late 80s and early 90s and Brazil in the late 90s and early 00s!I never said that they were one of the best teams in history, I said that they are one of the most dominant NTs in history because they've won every thing in the past 6 years and they could extend that further this summer. How many NTs have won three consecutive major trophies in history? Very few, which would make Spain in the past 6 years one of the most dominant NTs in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I never said that they were one of the best teams in history, I said that they are one of the most dominant NTs in history because they've won every thing in the past 6 years and they could extend that further this summer. How many NTs have won three consecutive major trophies in history? Very few, which would make Spain in the past 6 years one of the most dominant NTs in history.Actually, quite a lot...Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Italy and Germany have done it more than once!Also, Spain didnt win 3 consecutive big trophies because they lost the Confederations Cup twice, both in big fassion. Besides, Spain was dominant for 4 years, because after the Euros they have fallen for the 3rd or 4th favourite spot (behind Brazil, Germany and maybe Argentina).Not that it diminishes their accomplishment, but when you analyse the best and most dominant NTs of all times, Spain falls very short on the list.My point is, there were many more teams in history that dominated for a longer period of time and with much stronger opponents! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Actually, quite a lot...Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Italy and Germany have done it more than once!Also, Spain didnt win 3 consecutive big trophies because they lost the Confederations Cup twice, both in big fassion. Besides, Spain was dominant for 4 years, because after the Euros they have fallen for the 3rd or 4th favourite spot (behind Brazil, Germany and maybe Argentina).Not at it diminishes their accomplishment, but when you analyse the best and most dominant NTs of all times, Spain fall very short on the list.My point is, there were many more teams in history that dominated for a longer period of time and with much stronger opponents!Well I don't claim to be an expert on the history of international football, so if you say so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Well I don't claim to be an expert on the history of international football, so if you say so.. Neither do I, but if we are going to take that premise, nobody here can discuss anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 Neither do I, but if we are going to take that premise, nobody here can discuss anything...No seriously, I don't know if a NT has previously won two consecutive continental titles and the WC between. I know that Italy won the WC twice on the trot, but that's about it. So if you say that it's been done before, then fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidEU 2,023 Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Atletico Madrids plane for tonights game in Milan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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