Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Exactly. Its about the best combo for the team... And the way our front 3 work i don't think it would be a problem.No, you simply dont move your best players from position with the excuse it is the best for the team. You do the other way around, you build the team according to them!This is one of the first rules of football tactics, the super stars have the priority to dictate how you will build the squad...Schurrle must adpat to RW and not Hazard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 No, you simply dont move your best players from position with the excuse it is the best for the team. You do the other way around, you build the team according to them!This is one of the first rules of football tactics, the super stars have the priority to dictate how you will build the squad...Schurrle must adpat to RW and not Hazard!We don't even have a high quality Right winger, and Hazard gets switched to the right hand side several times a game. They all move over the palce and never stay constant. We are not moving him from Left wing to the left back. Just doing the same thing we are doing with Hazard and Moses right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 We don't even have a high quality Right winger, and Hazard gets switched to the right hand side several times a game. They all move over the palce and never stay constant. We are not moving him from Left wing to the left back. Just doing the same thing we are doing with Hazard and Moses right now.One thing is to sometimes move around the pitch (Ribbery does it, Ronaldo does it, Neymar does it, etc), but is one completely different to have a new main position. Search Hazard's best plays or goals in Youtube and see how many come from the right...If Schurrle comes, it needs to be for the RW, not to mess with Hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Di Maria and Sanchez are very realistic options...Barcelona clearly wants Neymar by the summer and this leaves no space for Villa and Sanchez. While Real will have a major revamp and, according to Marca, Kaka/Di Maria/Higuain/Pepe top the list of players they want to sell.Di Maria is a good player, if we can get him, then i'd obviously prefer him to Schurrle. But i've already expressed my concerns about Sanchez on his thread, in short, he doesn't exactly add a new dimension to our game: He dribbles a lot and is not a good finsiher, that's about it. Di Maria on the other hand has amazing assist numbers and Schurrle has one of the best long range shots you can find anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 One thing is to sometimes move around the pitch (Ribbery does it, Ronaldo does it, Neymar does it, etc), but is one completely different to have a new main position. Search Hazard's best plays or goals in Youtube and see how many come from the right...If Schurrle comes, it needs to be for the RW, not to mess with Hazard.He seemed to come off that right pretty well, do 2 players then put it in the bottom corner pretty well. And he scored that long ranger coming off the righ on his left foot.The same applies to Schurrle. Just because he hasn't had to play right wing a lot at Bayer it doesn't mean he can't. He too would have to adjust to playing on the right hand side as they would mix and match. We wouldn't do anything to the detrement to Hazard. And i don't see how him playing half the game on the right would make any problems for us. If he isn't being effective they would switch round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Bundesliga star Schurrle's move to Chelsea almost done, insists Leverkusen chiefRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2320352/Andre-Schurrle-close-to-Chelsea-says-Bayer-Leverkusen-general-manager-Wolfgang-Holzhauser.html#ixzz2SXNJKi8S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 On the Di Maria / Sanchez thing...If we could get Di Maria, then by all means, i would rather have him. But not too sure on Sanchez...But its definitely not as easy that, and besides them two, who else is there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Di Maria is a good player, if we can get him, then i'd obviously prefer him to Schurrle. But i've already expressed my concerns about Sanchez on his thread, in short, he doesn't exactly add a new dimension to our game: He dribbles a lot and is not a good finsiher, that's about it. Di Maria on the other hand has amazing assist numbers and Schurrle has one of the best long range shots you can find anywhere.My problem is not exactly Schurrle, it is all that surrounds his transfer. It is way overpriced, it involves KDB, not a move by the new manager (whoever he will be), is not a RW, etc...Di Maria is by far the best option and by far the most difficult to get. In respect to Sanchez, I think Peace. made two amazing posts on why he would be great here.Di Maria > Sanchez > Schurrle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Bundesliga star Schurrle's move to Chelsea almost done, insists Leverkusen chiefRead more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2320352/Andre-Schurrle-close-to-Chelsea-says-Bayer-Leverkusen-general-manager-Wolfgang-Holzhauser.html#ixzz2SXNJKi8S Time will tell. Just as long as it doesn't involve losing KDB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 My problem is not exactly Schurrle, it is all that surrounds his transfer. It is way overpriced, it involves KDB, not a move by the new manager (whoever he will be), is not a RW, etc...Di Maria is by far the best option and by far the most difficult to get. In respect to Sanchez, I think Peace. made two amazing posts on why he would be great here.Di Maria > Sanchez > Schurrle!Peace is a good poster, but he's no god that can tell how a flop will suddenly become a star in an even tougher league lol. It just isn't smart business and all about ifs, it will make sense for a lesser club to take him and if he does well then probably. Don't forget not only has he not been performing for Barcelona, but same applies on the International level too.Also remember the last 2 gambles we made with players not doing well at their clubs - Marin and Torres - didn't exactly turn out well to say the least lol.Sooo, Di Maria > Schurrle >>> Sanchez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Peace is a good poster, but he's no god that can tell how a flop will suddenly become a star in an even tougher league lol. It just isn't smart business and all about ifs, it will make sense for a lesser club to take him and if he does well then probably. Don't forget not only has he not been performing for Barcelona, but same applies on the International level too.Also remember the last 2 gambles we made with players not doing well at their clubs - Marin and Torres - didn't exactly turn out well to say the least lol.Sooo, Di Maria > Schurrle >>> Sanchez LOL, he is not God, but he gave enough facts and arguments to sustain his thesis more than the members who were against it. Every transfer is a doubt, but there are ways to choose smart guesses...Schurrle is more of a gamble than Shancez, so I dont see your point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 It's like playing Robben at LW, you take away his best trick which is cutting in and having a shot at goal. Hazard plays RW almost every game, and there have been times he's started from there - doesn't change anything, he can still beat his man and create space for others.Hazard playing on the RW doesn't change a thing? Have you actually seen how ineffective he is on the right? When Hazard has played there, he has never really posed any threat to the opposition and it's a different thing altogether playing there temporarily in games and playing as his main position. The best position for him is the LW because that is where he's most comfortable at and strongest in causing damage to the opponent. With the talent and ability he's got, we should be playing him in his best position where we can get the best out of him, not play square pegs in round hole and only get half of the player he is.What makes you think he's going to be a starter? Did you notice the 'if' in the sentence there?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 And you can add hulk to that list. If we could get a special price for him and witsel that would be a great window Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkE 267 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 And you can add hulk to that list. If we could get a special price for him and witsel that would be a great windowAnother winger? what we will play 2 7 1? with triple wingers each side and a CM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Another winger? what we will play 2 7 1? with triple wingers each side and a CM?That would give :team AMoses - Oscar - Schuurle----------- BA ----------------team BHulk - Mata - Hazard-------- new striker --------We would get rid of marin and benayoun, i don't know what you mean with your triple wingers each side... with rotation and cup games, that would be nice like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Another winger? what we will play 2 7 1? with triple wingers each side and a CM?Can't beat a bit of width Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Hazard playing on the RW doesn't change a thing? Have you actually seen how ineffective he is on the right? When Hazard has played there, he has never really posed any threat to the opposition and it's a different thing altogether playing there temporarily in games and playing as his main position. The best position for him is the LW because that is where he's most comfortable at and strongest in causing damage to the opponent. With the talent and ability he's got, we should be playing him in his best position where we can get the best out of him, not play square pegs in round hole and only get half of the player he is.I haven't noticed how ineffective Hazard is on the right. As far as i'm concerned he's capable of playing effectively in any of the 3 positions behind the striker but is obviously far better as CAM because he gets the ball more.Schurrle is more of a gamble than Shancez, so I dont see your point!Actually i don't see your point lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkE 267 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 That would give :team AMoses - Oscar - Schuurle----------- BA ----------------team BHulk - Mata - Hazard-------- new striker --------We would get rid of marin and benayoun, i don't know what you mean with your triple wingers each side... with rotation and cup games, that would be nice like thatLet's be honest, Zenit would ask X elevated to N for him (so maybe trillions). And if we sign Schurrle for £20M to make him sub or team b? Not liking it. no, sir. By the way, if you want a killer player for the wing and ST, really inexpensive (£5M), google Jesé Rodriguez, and then go to videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I haven't noticed how ineffective Hazard is on the right. As far as i'm concerned he's capable of playing effectively in any of the 3 positions behind the striker but is obviously far better as CAM because he gets the ball more.Agree to disagree then on Hazard at RW. As for saying Hazard gets the ball more in CAM, that may be the case but again, he can't do too much damage there unless in counter attacking situations where he can get loads of space and time to operate. The reason why Hazard doesn't suit in the CAM role is because his main abilities is getting on the ball, run at defenders and dribble past them. In this middle, he won't be able to do that too much because teams these days play a pivot or 3 midfielders in front of their defence and in this case, Hazard won't get the time and space to do. He might even actually lose the ball a tad more because of trying to dribble past people and being crowded out in that area! He's not like Mata where he passes, then move, pass, then move, pass then move making him very hard to mark and defend against in that CAM area.If we really are to get the absolute best out of Hazard, we really need to play him in best position which is at LW. He has the pace, trickery, ability to run with the ball and dribble past players and all of this is best exploited in that wide left role because that is where he can have the time and space to do what he's great at, which is something he won't enjoy much in the CAM position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Bayer Leverkusen believe Andre Schurrle has deal in place with Chelseahttp://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8696251/Bayer-Leverkusen-believe-Andre-Schurrle-has-deal-in-place-with-Chelsea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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