Vesper 30,224 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 47 minutes ago, Antonio8 said: i respect your opinion mate, but imho he is a real crack in plus, during his career, sarri always uses the 4312 system (except in napoli), and with isco, he could surely apply that system OT Bayern OT imho Sarri should try the 4312 system, with hazard morata and giroud, considering that hazard is not a real winger or striker, and morata is a second striker 4 3 1 2 IF Eden leaves yielding 4 backs then Kante Jorginho Barella then Isco or Fekir or Sarabia then Jovic and Piatek as striker duo THAT sounds great too! I like the sound of that Antonio8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Vesper said: what do you think if of a 4 2 3 1 system, IF we had a great striker? the 4 defensive backs then a double pivot of Jorginho and Kante then Eden on left Isco or Fekir or Sarabia ( in the number 10 role) as central playmaker and Pulisic on the right topped off by Icardi or Jovic or Piatek imho jorginho would have troubles in a 2-mildfield, hazard is not an ideal winger, because he wants ball on feet instead of in space (the same for willian) but a squad like this could be very dangerous: kante jorginho barkley isco (hazard) morata higuain just a dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, Antonio8 said: imho jorginho would have troubles in a 2-mildfield, hazard is not an ideal winger, because he wants ball on feet instead of in space (the same for willian) but a squad like this could be very dangerous: kante jorginho barkley isco (hazard) morata higuain just a dream that striker combo (Morata, Higs) fills me with tears (and not of joy) Also, Barkley is not up to level we need Barella there instead Isco as the number 10 (as Eden is almost surely gone) and my two choices of strikers (Jovic and Piatek) now that I could get behind especially is we upgrade or fullbacks (especially Alonso, who needs to GO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Vesper said: Isco is the one player that UJ and I really disagree on. I think he is overrated. If his knees are oki, would much rather go for Fekir. My number one AMF target is Kai Havertz, but Bayern (cunts) have him 90% in the bag, ffs. I also would go for Pablo Sarabia over Isco. Much more production for lower price. Its not that I dislike Isco, I just think that at around £80m to £100m or more, he is too costly for what we would get. £60m? Sign him up! No way RM drops that low I think. I do really understand where you are coming from mate and to an extent I agree akso. I do think we could get better for £80. Isco doesn't offer us the goals/assists that others can cheaper But IF we are going to sell to RM I dont see them paying us the price we put on him, as they would just wait and see. But IF they want to throw Isco in with the deal I do think it would be one of our best ways to do the transaction. Edens numbers are better than both Iscos and Asensios so that I see as the reason RM are looking at him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Just now, Unionjack said: I do really understand where you are coming from mate and to an extent I agree akso. I do think we could get better for £80. Isco doesn't offer us the goals/assists that others can cheaper But IF we are going to sell to RM I dont see them paying us the price we put on him, as they would just wait and see. But IF they want to throw Isco in with the deal I do think it would be one of our best ways to do the transaction. Edens numbers are better than both Iscos and Asensios so that I see as the reason RM are looking at him I have set what I want for Eden from RM £100m plus Achraf Hakimi (sorts out RB, as we can slide over Azpi for CB cover and promote Reece James) Hakimi is a beast done and dusted (unfortunately as obviously we lose Eden) I doubt they do it or would drop the cash to £70, £80m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: would drop the cash to £70, £80m I'm worried that this will probably be the final result - no player included!v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Unionjack said: I'm worried that this will probably be the final result - no player included!v If THAT is all we get offered and Eden still bolts then FUCK HIM AND FUCK THE BOARD!!! Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, Vesper said: that striker combo (Morata, Higs) fills me with tears (and not of joy) Also, Barkley is not up to level we need Barella there instead Isco as the number 10 (as Eden is almost surely gone) and my two choices of strikers (Jovic and Piatek) now that I could get behind especially is we upgrade or fullbacks (especially Alonso, who needs to GO) one is able to play with mildfielders and is a real striker, the other is able to go in depth barella would be nice! jovic and piatek....i don't know, they would be two bets imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Antonio8 said: one is able to play with mildfielders and is a real striker, the other is able to go in depth barella would be nice! jovic and piatek....i don't know, they would be two bets imho I truly do not rate Higs, think he is a spent and declining force, and Morata is pure shit in my book Jovic and Piatek are the future IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Official ! – Chelsea demand Isco plus €50 in exchange for Eden Hazard https://www.footballhitz.com/official-chelsea-demand-isco-plus-e50-in-exchange-for-eden-hazard/ Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, mccg said: Official ! – Chelsea demand Isco plus €50 in exchange for Eden Hazard https://www.footballhitz.com/official-chelsea-demand-isco-plus-e50-in-exchange-for-eden-hazard/ Good luck with that! They could sell Isco for £80m plus and buy Hazard for less or get him on a free in 2020. Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Vesper said: Good luck with that! They could sell Isco for £80m plus and buy Hazard for less or get him on a free in 2020. Take the straight swap. About the best we could try for in reality Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Unionjack said: Take the straight swap. About the best we could try for in reality They MIGHT do that. My dog, what a clusterfuck the board hath wrought. We could have had £175m or so last summer. I am so hoping he just says fuck it and renews. Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: They MIGHT do that. My dog, what a clusterfuck the board hath wrought. We could have had £175m or so last summer. I am so hoping he just says fuck it and renews. I first suggested it 2 years ago when we mighta got the £200m the Pinscher wanted. Could have turned the team around with that money! Of course the suggestion didn't go down to well!! Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Unionjack said: I first suggested it 2 years ago when we mighta got the £200m the Pinscher wanted. Could have turned the team around with that money! Of course the suggestion didn't go down to well!! If that had happened we could have hijacked the Mbappe deal and still had £25+35m left over, which surely would have come close (within £10m) of grabbing Alex Telles (who we have criminally ignored the entire time (3 years plus) we have been fruitlessly chasing bloody Alex Sandro). Left side of Telles and Mbappe would have TORN shit up. Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vesper said: of grabbing Alex Telles I was screaming for him mate. Nobody listened. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,224 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Unionjack said: I was screaming for him mate. Nobody listened. sounds like we were already on same page years before I joined the board Unionjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 CHELSEA IN THREE-WAY RACE TO SIGN ISCO https://readchelsea.com/2019/02/03/chelsea-in-three-way-race-to-sign-isco/ nothing like a dirty 3some on a dirty cold sunday night lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 hours ago, mccg said: CHELSEA IN THREE-WAY RACE TO SIGN ISCO https://readchelsea.com/2019/02/03/chelsea-in-three-way-race-to-sign-isco/ nothing like a dirty 3some on a dirty cold sunday night lol Only real chance of our board trying for him is some type of swap deal for Eden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Real Madrid news: What La Liga giants think about swapping Isco for Chelsea's Eden Hazard https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1084597/Real-Madrid-news-Isco-Chelsea-Eden-Hazard-transfers-La-Liga-Premier-League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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