Liquidator 5,176 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Well, I hope so. Otherwise we have to change the language and talk German or Bosnian That's what we non-native speaker learn at school/uni lolyeah we have the same thing with Spanish- subjunctive, imperfect etc. stupid names for things at different times is what I like to call it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 yeah we have the same thing with Spanish- subjunctive, imperfect etc. stupid names for things at different times is what I like to call it Haha yeah, Spanish grammatic rules etc. are horrible. ¿Cómo puedo saber cuando tengo que usar el subjuntivo o el indicativo? (I should have used "tenga" instead of "tengo" here probably lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naked Mole Rat 437 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Haha yeah, Spanish grammatic rules etc. are horrible. ¿Cómo puedo saber cuando tengo que usar el subjuntivo o el indicativo? (I should have used "tenga" instead of "tengo" here probably lol)The rules are what make Spanish structured and easy to learn. Subjunctives are an overkill, but at least Spanish has consistent grammar. Some languages don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The rules are what make Spanish structured and easy to learn. Subjunctives are an overkill, but at least Spanish has consistent grammar. Some languages don't.Definitely not easy (enough) for me. I find all that grammar quite annoying, tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Just learn the difference between they're, their, there, your, you're, its, it's and you are automatically better at English than half of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Definitely not easy (enough) for me. I find all that grammar quite annoying, tbh.You shouldn't try portuguese then. It's like spanish but a bit worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 You shouldn't try portuguese then. It's like spanish but a bit worse.I'm learning it at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I'm learning it at the moment Good luck, my friend. I'm a native speaker and I have problems with it sometimes. I bet only portuguese teachers know how to conjugate verbs in second-person of plural form properly 100% of the time. And not all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidator 5,176 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Good luck, my friend. I'm a native speaker and I have problems with it sometimes. I bet only portuguese teachers know how to conjugate verbs in second-person of plural form properly 100% of the time. And not all of them.oh crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Luckily no one uses that in Brazil, like... ever. You can only find those in old literature or the bible. I guess they use it often in Portugal, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 You shouldn't try portuguese then. It's like spanish but a bit worse.I actually tried learning Portuguese last summer. I can "hello" and order something to eat but that's it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesChick 1,260 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I am learning Mandarin the grammar is easy but the vocabulary and characters are a nightmare! LOL there are at least 6 ways to say some words depending on the situations and some words sound similar but the tones are different or they sound the same but the characters are different (ta for he, she, & it is a perfect example of that!). My crazy kids are learning both Mandarin and German so when I ask them questions they answer me in a mix of English, German, and Mandarin… it gives me a headache!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion 2,476 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I am learning Mandarin the grammar is easy but the vocabulary and characters are a nightmare! LOL there are at least 6 ways to say some words depending on the situations and some words sound similar but the tones are different or they sound the same but the characters are different (ta for he, she, & it is a perfect example of that!). My crazy kids are learning both Mandarin and German so when I ask them questions they answer me in a mix of English, German, and Mandarin… it gives me a headache!!What about chinese alphabet? All those ideograms, aren't they super hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesChick 1,260 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 What about chinese alphabet? All those ideograms, aren't they super hard?It isn't really an alphabet, they say to read a newspaper you need to know 3000-5000 characters (words). I can recognize almost 50, I can do better with pin-yin (looks like English) character combinations, then I can translate what I read, but my spoke Chinese is woeful. My tutor says it is because I am too timid. I have tutoring two days a week and should do more but I work some days so I can't always have lessons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I've never understood how Chinese can understand those hieroglyphs. It seems unnecessarily complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluesChick 1,260 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Probably because they learn it when they are little, I am starting to understand more. Certain characters have certain parts called radicals that give you a hint what it is about one indicates people, another money, another home/buildings, another speech/language, etc. I am learning it as an adult way past my prime learning age and I can tell you there are days I look at it and shake my head! My kids are doing much better with it than I am! My daughter especially seems to pick it up quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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