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[IMissEden 21]

The amount of conspiracy theories from these kids too. Shocking. It’s wow, suddenly the exaggerated caricatures long painted of others, falsely, adopted so truly. And genuinely ignorant of. You cannot explain xyz to xyz IQ. So too, cannot explain xyz to xyz. There are barriers people can inherit in life that feel as true as breathing, but are as made up as Lego. Understand that. But won’t. Some. Ever. That’s people. They get by seemingly same as others, same enough, it doesn’t stand out. But look closer if have means to. And see, a lot of very sure people, are so sure because they’re stupid. Whatever the saying is, I know how much I don’t know type thing. 

[IMissEden 21]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Republican billionaire money contributions dwarf Democratic billionaire contributions. 

This article is from October, before Musk and some of the biggest others dumped even more dollars in a last minute money frenzy:

 

Why Most Billionaires Still Favor Donald Trump and the Republicans 

https://www.newsweek.com/why-most-billionaires-still-favor-donald-trump-republicans-opinion-1967643

Since the Supreme Court's 2010 Citizens United decision, American politics have been flooded by a tsunami of spending by a dizzying array of organizations. One of the lasting impacts of that decision has been to dramatically empower the country's roughly 813 billionaires by allowing them to spend more or less unlimited amounts of cash on our elections. Democrats certainly boast their share of billionaire donors and supporters, like former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, if for no other reason than that you don't want to bring a matchbox car to a NASCAR race. But Republicans remain the party of not only the billionaire class but of the wealthy more broadly, as measured both in campaign contributions and voter preferences. 

Which party benefits more from this endless stream of billionaire scratch is an incredibly easy question to answer. Open Secrets maintains a list of the top 100 individual contributors to both parties and their various outside groups during this election cycle. Republicans have been the beneficiaries of this spending by a margin of $879 million to $327 million for Democrats. Yes, you read that right – America's wealthiest citizens have already spent well over a billion dollars on this election. Open Secrets characterizes 59 of them as solidly or leaning Republican/Conservative and just 39 as solidly or leaning Democratic/Liberal, with two "on the fence."

It's not just campaign contributions. While exit pollsters don't specifically survey billionaires, they do ask about how people who make less than or more than $100,000 a year voted. Trump won that wealthier group in 2020, which of course includes billionaires, 54 percent to 42 percent. This has been true in every modern election with the exception of 2016, when Hillary Clinton and Trump himself tied with this group.

 

This is pretty stark data. So, to think that Democrats are the party of billionaires, you have to first take the biggest bong rip in human history and then, your head flooded with THC fog, proceed to ignore the fact that Republicans reliably serve the billionaire class's interests and enjoy a decisive advantage in terms of getting them to spend their largesse influencing the outcome of our elections.

Remember that the richest man in the world, Elon Musk, is currently propping up the entire Republican effort to hold the U.S. House of Representatives. Musk isn't just writing checks—he's turned Twitter, the social media website he paid $44 billion for, into a right-wing influence operation by letting any knucklehead buy a blue check and propel themselves to the top of the algorithm. Twitter, rebranded X (perhaps to stand for the generation that Musk so odiously embodies), is now an impenetrable cesspool of Nazis, influence-peddlers, grifters, disinformation artists and cranks that marches once-fringe far-right ideas proudly into the mainstream.

It makes sense that Republicans enjoy the backing of most billionaires because the Trump campaign as always is promising to do their bidding in a very straightforward fashion. Trump hasn't exactly been generous with sharing his policy proposals (since they largely do not exist), but one thing we do know is that he is planning to drop the corporate tax rate again to 15 percent after cutting it dramatically to 21 percent with the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act. He has no plans whatsoever to raise any further revenue from rich people, full stop.

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Why do you exclusively post from established lefty sources as opposed to centrist. That is not true information whatsoever. 

[Vesper 30,231]

58 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

Correct 

Billionaire contributions in total dollars given to Republicans dwarf billionaire contributions in total dollars given to Democrats, as I just showed.

so....

AI fail.

Edited December 21, 2024 by Vesper

[IMissEden 21]

Headlines are pretty much the Stupid, of words. You put so much stock into them it’s concerning. They are clickbait. To push rhetoric. Do you not get that. Do you not believe that. Why post bias when people want to clarify reality. You have no grasp clearly of how weaponised social media, and media, has been, against truth, to push propaganda. For lefties. Long before, and far deeper, than the right, who are barely starting to utilise such. You keep reposting what I imagine is from years on years of, false narratives keeping politicians you do not know but think you trust, their jobs and donors. Why are you so idealistic. Adults have to work through all this noise, and it often leads to the shit we see today when you all pile on top of reality and cry so loud and painfully that someone buckles and implements one of your forks in the toaster. Then go about sorting the other side of that. First try and prevent, then, try and clean up after. Meanwhile, toys out pram and nothing more than mess and noise. 
 

Last week I was asked to train a major political party’s members so I’ll double down on a few points 

Centrist saying this again, as you preclude division in taking sides. Neither left nor right are correct, but right is closer. Still, there’s a limit on anyone left or right when it comes to assessing their points. As, their approach defaults the preclusion of going round in circles. Try and take something from this. If you cannot then you are stupid. 

Edited December 21, 2024 by IMissEden

[IMissEden 21]

And the extremely thin fringes of society that actually harbour things like racism, homophobic, are nothing to do with the masses pushing back on false refugees, and extremism. That, is the fuelled, tense, conversation going on today. Nobody cares about fictionalised ie exaggerated to the mountains paranoia re the other issues blown out of proportion. Meanwhile, dodging the mass causalities and deaths erm nuance.
 

Know what you’re talking about and why. There’s a global conversation happening and no adults in the room are going to take the next points seriously if you keep ignoring back door issues to scream about overseas paranoia that’s unfounded. 

[Vesper 30,231]

2 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

The amount of conspiracy theories from these kids too. Shocking. It’s wow, suddenly the exaggerated caricatures long painted of others, falsely, adopted so truly. And genuinely ignorant of. You cannot explain xyz to xyz IQ. So too, cannot explain xyz to xyz. There are barriers people can inherit in life that feel as true as breathing, but are as made up as Lego. Understand that. But won’t. Some. Ever. That’s people. They get by seemingly same as others, same enough, it doesn’t stand out. But look closer if have means to. And see, a lot of very sure people, are so sure because they’re stupid. Whatever the saying is, I know how much I don’t know type thing. 

You are outdoing yourself with this meaningless gibberish.

You are a btec troll that spews a 4Chan level turgid mismash of RW distillated bollocks, and you do so in such poorly executed English syntax that it makes Cosmic look positively Shakespearean in comparison.

You offer nothing (and never have) worthy of anyone on this board paying the slighest heed to, unless they desire to lower their IQ a few points simply by attempting to read your randomly nonsensical output.

You are quite likely the least intelligent persona to ever darken the TC door.

[Vesper 30,231]

26 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

Why do you exclusively post from established lefty sources as opposed to centrist. That is not true information whatsoever. 

Lol if you think Newsweek is a lefty magazine/site.

Ludicrous.

[Vesper 30,231]

30 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

 That is not true information whatsoever. 

Bullshit.

You are now engaging in raw and open disinformation and falsehood spreading.

Bad faith poster.

 

 

 

[Vesper 30,231]

44 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

Headlines are pretty much the Stupid, of words. You put so much stock into them it’s concerning. They are clickbait. To push rhetoric. Do you not get that. Do you not believe that. Why post bias when people want to clarify reality. You have no grasp clearly of how weaponised social media, and media, has been, against truth, to push propaganda. For lefties. Long before, and far deeper, than the right, who are barely starting to utilise such. You keep reposting what I imagine is from years on years of, false narratives keeping politicians you do not know but think you trust, their jobs and donors. Why are you so idealistic. Adults have to work through all this noise, and it often leads to the shit we see today when you all pile on top of reality and cry so loud and painfully that someone buckles and implements one of your forks in the toaster. Then go about sorting the other side of that. First try and prevent, then, try and clean up after. Meanwhile, toys out pram and nothing more than mess and noise. 
 

Last week I was asked to train a major political party’s members so I’ll double down on a few points 

Centrist saying this again, as you preclude division in taking sides. Neither left nor right are correct, but right is closer. Still, there’s a limit on anyone left or right when it comes to assessing their points. As, their approach defaults the preclusion of going round in circles. Try and take something from this. If you cannot then you are stupid. 

Random incoherent claptrap in pseudo-English. You need to reprogramme your language model database.

Edited December 21, 2024 by Vesper

[Vesper 30,231]

52 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

Facts are so much simpler than fiction. Common sense, so much more widespread than these overthought, over identified confusions. Hence, things being sorted, while the youngest and ergo most immature keep espousing strange fan fics, slander, bait, and essentially mass hysteria. 
 

I would Google and truly understand mass hysteria. Fundamentally it’s obviously hard to recognise that the sky is blue if trained from all angles throughout life to accept it as white. 

Broken your linguistic processors are, padawan. 

[Vesper 30,231]

51 minutes ago, IMissEden said:

Last week I was asked to train a major political party’s members

Lol. That is quite likely the most farcical claim I have seen made on this board (ALL forums btw).

You couldn't train a hamster to run in a wheel.

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

My point was - the notion that right party means billionaires support them isn't simply true. 

The left has more billionaires supporting them. So maybe the left keeps people wealthy too? 

Depends what you call 'the left' Personally to call the Dems that I find hilarious

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

26 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Lol. That is quite likely the most farcical claim I have seen made on this board (ALL forums btw).

You couldn't train a hamster to run in a wheel.

 

Popular Judea Front ?

 

[Vesper 30,231]

2 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Depends what you call 'the left' Personally to call the Dems that I find hilarious

Yes, the majority of US Democrats would be centre to centre right neoliberals over here in the EU, and some would be edging towards solid RWers. So many are corporatists.

None would be considered far left in the slightest.

Vänsterpartiet (The Left Party, ie actual socialists and some Marxists) here in Sweden always laugh when yanks call Bernie Sanders a socialist or communist.

[Vesper 30,231]

3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Popular Judea Front ?

 

Doubtful, as even the PFJ are not stupid enough to have that mooncalf around, let alone be trained by him/her.

[Fernando 6,585]

12 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

At the heart of the crisis was the housing bubble, fueled easy credit and lax lending standards. Financial institutions, driven by the pursuit of higher profits, began issuing subprime mortgages to borrowers with very poor credit histories. Those financial institutions are owned by billionaires - Trumps cabinet, the government,  are all billionaires with a combined wealth of 342 billion. The next four years will be fun....

Well if Trump does something with housing I will be happy on that side. 

There should never been this shortage of supply when there's so much land in the USA. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Well if Trump does something with housing I will be happy on that side. 

There should never been this shortage of supply when there's so much land in the USA. 

If its anything like the UK it will be to benefit the house builders, that will undoubtably also be political donors. Here they say a percentage has to be 'affordable' housing.for first time buyers. Its anything but though.

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

Shocking leverage by AIPAC, also interesting how Catholics support Israel as the ''Crusader Client State'' because they want revenge for being driven out of Jerusalem in the 11th Century. Fuck get over it

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,333]

At least 200 children and women rescued from Lev Tahor Jewish sect

Authorities  rescued at least 160 children from a Jewish sect following allegations of abuse and human trafficking.

Police raided the premises of the sect called Lev Tahor in Oratorio city, 78km southeast of the capital Guatemala City, on Friday after receiving complaints of widespread abuse of children, including rape, human trafficking and forced marriage.

480 police personnel, soldiers, prosecutors, and psychologists who also seized electronic devices and searched for evidence of child pornography.

Lev Tahor, “Pure Heart” in Hebrew, was founded in Israel in 1988 and practices strict  Jewish law

A prosecutor in the Office Against Human Trafficking, said that police found bodies suspected to be of minors buried on the premises.

Reuters

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