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[Fernando 6,603]

9 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yeah agree he was given millions of dollars by Israel to found TP. 

You're right he was very pro Isarel, but he was starting to change. Not in his support for Isarel, but in just calling it how it is.  He was mentioning Epstein as Mossad and Oct 7th 2023 how the border troops were ordered to stand down - he was going the way of Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. 

Interesting, the only problem is that Epstein is dead so we couldn't question about this connectiong as a Mossad agent. 

But if Kirk was aware of that I'm sure his wife would know......

People can always question his now widow wife in the future about this. If she did know something, did his husband mentioned anything about this? 

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58 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Interesting, the only problem is that Epstein is dead so we couldn't question about this connectiong as a Mossad agent. 

But if Kirk was aware of that I'm sure his wife would know......

People can always question his now widow wife in the future about this. If she did know something, did his husband mentioned anything about this? 

Because of his patriarchy, I think his wife was a stay at home stereotype little wife role - he spoke of women should behave like that. Could be wrong though

[Fernando 6,603]

24 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Because of his patriarchy, I think his wife was a stay at home stereotype little wife role - he spoke of women should behave like that. Could be wrong though

Yes I did saw a debate about this with him an a femmnist. He did believe in that patriarchy vs the feminist movement. 

Could be or could not. We will never know unless she spoke about it and if her husband did talk to her about that. 

At this time just pure speculation. We don't know and have nothing concrete. 

My speculation is just a general guy that killed him, nothing deep secret conspiracy theory about it. It was a guy that grew up in a conservative life but as he grew up he differed from the views from his family and he got a hatred for Kirk as a fascist pig. 

Just a normal guy gone crazy with a vendetta for me. 

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8 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yes I did saw a debate about this with him an a femmnist. He did believe in that patriarchy vs the feminist movement. 

Could be or could not. We will never know unless she spoke about it and if her husband did talk to her about that. 

At this time just pure speculation. We don't know and have nothing concrete. 

My speculation is just a general guy that killed him, nothing deep secret conspiracy theory about it. It was a guy that grew up in a conservative life but as he grew up he differed from the views from his family and he got a hatred for Kirk as a fascist pig. 

Just a normal guy gone crazy with a vendetta for me. 

The shooter ? yeah maybe. His dad a staunch Republican dobbed him in apparently. 

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Spanish PM calls for Israel to be barred from international sport

 

Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has called for Israel to be excluded from international sports competitions over its actions in Gaza.

"Israel cannot continue to use any international platform to whitewash its image,"

Earlier in the day, Sánchez had said that previous protests during the three-week race had shown that Spain "shines as an example, with pride" on the Gaza issue.

Several Spanish government ministers also praised the final stage protest, which involved about 100,000 people, according to official figures.

"It's a relief to me that thousands and thousands of people mobilise against that genocide, because it is genocide and it has no other name," said Óscar López, the minister of digital transformation.

Culture Minister Ernest Urtasun also said Israel should not take part in the next Eurovision Song Contest, repeating calls made by Sánchez earlier this year.

"We have to make sure that Israel does not take part in the next Eurovision," Urtasun said.

The public broadcasters of Ireland and the Netherlands have already said they will not participate if Israel is included in the contest, because of the "appalling" and "severe" loss of lives and human suffering in Gaza.

A recent poll by the Elcano Royal Institute think tank indicated at least 82% of Spaniards believe genocide is being committed in Gaza.

Two days after Sánchez's announcement, the European Commission President, Ursula von der Leyen, called for a suspension of free trade and bilateral support with Israel, as she spoke of the "man-made famine" in Gaza.

Von der Leyen also lamented what she called Europe's "painful" inability to find an adequate response to Israel's actions.

Israel controls all border crossings into the Gaza Strip, and as the occupying power bears responsibility for protecting civilian life under international law, which includes the prevention of starvation.

BBC

[Fernando 6,603]

43 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

The shooter ? yeah maybe. His dad a staunch Republican dobbed him in apparently. 

In one thing where i was debating with vesper is that often times when you read an article it will be highly bias. They tend to take one word or phrase to build their entire teaching. 

For example I been doing some more further research on what Kirk believe in Immigration just by listening to his word, in context, with no cuts and all that nonsenese that Journos and people do. And it came out a very thought out process. 

 

From 14:03 to 24:40 he gives a detail response as to his view on immigration. And I have to say my man gives a thoughtful view. 

I still don't agree with his point of view with immigration but this is much smarter then labels he got thrown as xenophobic and what not. 

That's why I tend to be very skeptical with articles and what not as they tend to have a bias and choose and pick what they want. 

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

In one thing where i was debating with vesper is that often times when you read an article it will be highly bias. They tend to take one word or phrase to build their entire teaching. 

For example I been doing some more further research on what Kirk believe in Immigration just by listening to his word, in context, with no cuts and all that nonsenese that Journos and people do. And it came out a very thought out process. 

 

From 14:03 to 24:40 he gives a detail response as to his view on immigration. And I have to say my man gives a thoughtful view. 

I still don't agree with his point of view with immigration but this is much smarter then labels he got thrown as xenophobic and what not. 

That's why I tend to be very skeptical with articles and what not as they tend to have a bias and choose and pick what they want. 

Its interesting as I said - the actual debate where he is changing his views on Isarel has been deleted from Youtube ! Its like we said free speech ? Mmm

Luckily some commentators actually recorded the debate/interview. But fuck me the level of censorship is scary.

 

[Fernando 6,603]

10 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Its interesting as I said - the actual debate where he is changing his views on Isarel has been deleted from Youtube ! Its like we said free speech ? Mmm

Luckily some commentators actually recorded the debate/interview. But fuck me the level of censorship is scary.

 

Thanks for the video. 

Yes he is asking some questions that to me needs to be address when this is all over. 

And those should be address when this all over, because no war is eternal. I would think the own Israelites will do a thorought investigation into this and if this is true he would be jailed. 

Which in all fact I think a lot of people in their should be jailed. They are not committing genocide but more like war crime and officers and what not should go to jail once this is all over. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Thanks for the video. 

Yes he is asking some questions that to me needs to be address when this is all over. 

And those should be address when this all over, because no war is eternal. I would think the own Israelites will do a thorought investigation into this and if this is true he would be jailed. 

Which in all fact I think a lot of people in their should be jailed. They are not committing genocide but more like war crime and officers and what not should go to jail once this is all over. 

 

Maybe. Though with respect I prefer to take the word of over 120 organisations and Genocide Study experts, historians and UN Genocide qualified professionals, Israeli Holocaust experts and holocaust survivors along with the Isareli group B'tselem

According to a United Nations special committee,Amnesty International, Médecins Sans Frontières, B'Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights–Israel, International Federation for Human Rights, numerous genocide studies and international law scholars(including the International Association of Genocide Scholars), and many other experts, Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians during its ongoing blockade, invasion, and bombing of the Gaza Strip.[ Experts and human rights organisations identified acts of genocide, such as large-scale killing and use of starvation as a weapon of war, with the intent to destroy Gaza's population in whole or in part. Other such genocidal acts include destroying civilian infrastructure, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, using mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and preventing births.

By August 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 60,138 people in Gaza had been killed—1 out of every 37 people—averaging 91 deaths per day. Most of the victims are civilians, of whom at least 50% are women and children.[Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are the highest. Thousands more uncounted dead bodies are thought to be under the rubble of destroyed

[Fernando 6,603]

34 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Maybe. Though with respect I prefer to take the word of over 120 organisations and Genocide Study experts, historians and UN Genocide qualified professionals, Israeli Holocaust experts and holocaust survivors along with the Isareli group B'tselem

According to a United Nations special committee,Amnesty International, Médecins Sans Frontières, B'Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights–Israel, International Federation for Human Rights, numerous genocide studies and international law scholars(including the International Association of Genocide Scholars), and many other experts, Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians during its ongoing blockade, invasion, and bombing of the Gaza Strip.[ Experts and human rights organisations identified acts of genocide, such as large-scale killing and use of starvation as a weapon of war, with the intent to destroy Gaza's population in whole or in part. Other such genocidal acts include destroying civilian infrastructure, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, using mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and preventing births.

By August 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 60,138 people in Gaza had been killed—1 out of every 37 people—averaging 91 deaths per day. Most of the victims are civilians, of whom at least 50% are women and children.[Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are the highest. Thousands more uncounted dead bodies are thought to be under the rubble of destroyed

But there's a problem I have, and I'm skeptical of UN, they are so biased

I have a problem with this: Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruciton of a racial. 

How can it be deliberate when they are their because of Hamas?

If anything it would be hamas that is doing genocide as they provoke this and don't nothing to stop as they don't care for their people. 

If Gaza are startving then how come Hamas is still kicing on about? 

So I have a problem with that part of deliberate. 

The other parts of the definition of genocide are true, Israel is doing that. I don't deny that. The blockade, bombing and all that stuff is true. 

BUT the definition of genocide is also adding "with the intent to eliminate the groups existence".

I don't see that intent when they are their because of Hamas and Hamas still fighting. 

I will agree with this definition if say Hamas surrender, gives back all the hostage and then Israel continues attacking for no good reason. 

Then I will say 100 percent genocide. 

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[Vesper 30,320]

Outrage as pro-Trump rapper and country singer release pro-lynching song: ‘Hang ‘em up high at sundown’

White rapper and singer call for public hangings after raging against reactions to Charlie Kirk’s death

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-rapper-lynching-song-country-b2827708.html

A white rapper known for viral anthems supporting Donald Trump and Republican officials has released a music video with a country singer calling for public lynchings.

Over a banjo riff, the chorus of “Good vs Evil” from MAGA rapper Forgiato Blow and country singer JJ Lawhorn repeats instructions for hanging people at “sundown,” an apparent reference to “sundown towns” that violently enforce racial segregation.

The song calls for “a big tall tree and a short piece of rope” to “hang ‘em up high at sundown” and “leave ‘em swinging so the folks all know you don’t mess around in our town.”

A verse from Forgiato Blow, whose real name is Kurt Jantz, lists three white murder victims whose killer or accused killers are Black and Latino. He named the killings of Austin Metcalf, Laken Riley, and Iryna Zarutska, who was fatally stabbed on a bus in North Carolina. Jantz says she was killed by a “n******.”

Later, Lawhorn sings “we ought to do it like they did it way back in the day because grandaddy’s way works best.”

The song follows the assassination of right-wing Christian activist Charlie Kirk, which has provided the Trump administration with a framework to prosecute Democratic officials and left-wing groups by using a sweeping campaign against protected speech.

“I’m done being silent in my faith!” Jantz wrote in a post on Instagram sharing the song. “Im done being a silent conservative, I’m no longer concerned that truth may hurt your feelings. Jesus is coming back and we are all part of his mission! I am Charlie Kirk!”

“SOMEBODY HAS TO SAY IT,” Lawhorn wrote.

Jantz, the self-described “Mayor of MAGAville,” has been the face of a “MAGA rap” subgenre built explicitly around support for the president with provocative songs referencing right-wing culture wars and Trump’s agenda, seemingly designed to bait critics.

“In the wake of all the violent killings recently… is it time to bring back public executions?” Jantz wrote on X. “RT if you agree!”

“Meanwhile they say the left is engaging in hate speech,” one person wrote on social media in response to his latest song.

“Insane how unsubtle this is,” another wrote.

“What else do you call this other than a call for violence?” asked another.

More than 6,500 people, mostly African Americans, were killed in racist attacks between 1865 and 1950 in the aftermath of the Civil War and emancipation and through an era of white militia terror during Reconstruction and in the years surrounding the Civil Rights movement, according to the Equal Justice Initiative.

Black people were the primary victims of lynching, though immigrants from Mexico, China, Australia, and other countries were also lynched, and some white people were lynched for aiding Black people or for their position against lynching, the Equal Justice Initiative found.

The Emmett Till Anti-Lynching Act — named after the Black teenager whose murder in 1955 magnified Jim Crow-era violence that galvanized the Civil Rights movement — designates lynching as a crime punishable by up to 30 years in prison.

It passed the House of Representatives in 2022 by a vote of 433-7 and cleared the Senate unanimously. Joe Biden signed it into law that year.

Following Kirk’s death, Trump and right-wing figures quickly sought to punish left-wing voices for rhetoric they blamed for his killing, with a renewed commitment from the Trump administration to crack down on the “radical left.”

“For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals,” Trump said in a speech from the Oval Office.

“This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now,” he added. “My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it.”

Elon Musk — who owns X, where the song has been viewed more than 100,000 times — called the Democratic Party the “party of murder” and accused media outlets and educational institutions of “programming people to murder.”

He said that he was going to “fix” the platform’s AI assistant Grok after it cited research that showed right-wing violence was more prevalent than left-wing violence.

Between the January 6 insurrection and the 2024 election, there were at least 300 cases of political violence, marking the largest surge in such attacks since the 1970s, according to a Reuters analysis.

Since 2016, there were nearly three times as many partisan-driven attacks and plots in the United States as in the previous quarter-century, a 2023 Center for Strategic and International Studies paper found.

Yet a large body of research has found that right-wing extremists have killed more people than those associated with any other political cause in the United States within the last two decades, though many of those attacks don’t map neatly onto one political ideology.

Trump’s Department of Justice recently removed a study from its website showing that white supremacist and far-right violence “continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism” in the United States.

[Fulham Broadway 17,367]

7 hours ago, Vesper said:

Outrage as pro-Trump rapper and country singer release pro-lynching song: ‘Hang ‘em up high at sundown’

White rapper and singer call for public hangings after raging against reactions to Charlie Kirk’s death

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-rapper-lynching-song-country-b2827708.html

A white rapper known for viral anthems supporting Donald Trump and Republican officials has released a music video with a country singer calling for public lynchings.

Over a banjo riff, the chorus of “Good vs Evil” from MAGA rapper Forgiato Blow and country singer JJ Lawhorn repeats instructions for hanging people at “sundown,” an apparent reference to “sundown towns” that violently enforce racial segregation.

The song calls for “a big tall tree and a short piece of rope” to “hang ‘em up high at sundown” and “leave ‘em swinging so the folks all know you don’t mess around in our town.”

A verse from Forgiato Blow, whose real name is Kurt Jantz, lists three white murder victims whose killer or accused killers are Black and Latino. He named the killings of Austin Metcalf, Laken Riley, and Iryna Zarutska, who was fatally stabbed on a bus in North Carolina. Jantz says she was killed by a “n******.”

Later, Lawhorn sings “we ought to do it like they did it way back in the day because grandaddy’s way works best.”

The song follows the assassination of right-wing Christian activist Charlie Kirk, which has provided the Trump administration with a framework to prosecute Democratic officials and left-wing groups by using a sweeping campaign against protected speech.

“I’m done being silent in my faith!” Jantz wrote in a post on Instagram sharing the song. “Im done being a silent conservative, I’m no longer concerned that truth may hurt your feelings. Jesus is coming back and we are all part of his mission! I am Charlie Kirk!”

“SOMEBODY HAS TO SAY IT,” Lawhorn wrote.

Jantz, the self-described “Mayor of MAGAville,” has been the face of a “MAGA rap” subgenre built explicitly around support for the president with provocative songs referencing right-wing culture wars and Trump’s agenda, seemingly designed to bait critics.

“In the wake of all the violent killings recently… is it time to bring back public executions?” Jantz wrote on X. “RT if you agree!”

“Meanwhile they say the left is engaging in hate speech,” one person wrote on social media in response to his latest song.

“Insane how unsubtle this is,” another wrote.

“What else do you call this other than a call for violence?” asked another.

More than 6,500 people, mostly African Americans, were killed in racist attacks between 1865 and 1950 in the aftermath of the Civil War and emancipation and through an era of white militia terror during Reconstruction and in the years surrounding the Civil Rights movement, according to the Equal Justice Initiative.

Black people were the primary victims of lynching, though immigrants from Mexico, China, Australia, and other countries were also lynched, and some white people were lynched for aiding Black people or for their position against lynching, the Equal Justice Initiative found.

The Emmett Till Anti-Lynching Act — named after the Black teenager whose murder in 1955 magnified Jim Crow-era violence that galvanized the Civil Rights movement — designates lynching as a crime punishable by up to 30 years in prison.

It passed the House of Representatives in 2022 by a vote of 433-7 and cleared the Senate unanimously. Joe Biden signed it into law that year.

Following Kirk’s death, Trump and right-wing figures quickly sought to punish left-wing voices for rhetoric they blamed for his killing, with a renewed commitment from the Trump administration to crack down on the “radical left.”

“For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals,” Trump said in a speech from the Oval Office.

“This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now,” he added. “My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it.”

Elon Musk — who owns X, where the song has been viewed more than 100,000 times — called the Democratic Party the “party of murder” and accused media outlets and educational institutions of “programming people to murder.”

He said that he was going to “fix” the platform’s AI assistant Grok after it cited research that showed right-wing violence was more prevalent than left-wing violence.

Between the January 6 insurrection and the 2024 election, there were at least 300 cases of political violence, marking the largest surge in such attacks since the 1970s, according to a Reuters analysis.

Since 2016, there were nearly three times as many partisan-driven attacks and plots in the United States as in the previous quarter-century, a 2023 Center for Strategic and International Studies paper found.

Yet a large body of research has found that right-wing extremists have killed more people than those associated with any other political cause in the United States within the last two decades, though many of those attacks don’t map neatly onto one political ideology.

Trump’s Department of Justice recently removed a study from its website showing that white supremacist and far-right violence “continues to outpace all other types of terrorism and domestic violent extremism” in the United States.

He's quite happy to appropriate a black genre of music though. Apart from that geezer looks a fat carb eating 'notice me' mess.

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Israeli minister touts Gaza 'real estate bonanza', defying international backlash

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y59z6rznvo

Israel's far-right finance minister Bezalel Smotrich has said the Gaza Strip could be a "real estate bonanza" and that he is in talks with the US about dividing up the territory after the war - an idea previously condemned internationally.

Speaking at an event in Tel Aviv, he said "a business plan is on President Trump's table".

"We've done the demolition phase... Now we need to build," he said.

In February, Donald Trump floated plans for the US to take "a long-term ownership position" over Gaza, saying it could be the "Riviera of the Middle East".

The idea would involve the forced displacement of Palestinians in the territory and be in violation of international law.

The US and Israel have said it would involve "voluntary" emigration. The BBC has reached out to the White House and the US State Department for comment on Smotrich's remarks.

Trump's plan - which was roundly rejected by Palestinians, Arab states and the wider international community - later appeared to have been dropped by the White House, with Trump describing it in July as "a concept that was really embraced by a lot of people, but also some people didn't like it".

But the Washington Post reported earlier this month a version of the idea was again under discussion, and would involve Gaza being turned into a trusteeship administered by the US for at least a decade while it is developed into a tourism resort and high-tech manufacturing hub.

Israel's military campaign in Gaza, which has involved mass air strikes and building demolitions, has caused widespread destruction to the territory.

The United Nations (UN) estimates 92% of housing units have been damaged or destroyed, 91% of schools will require full reconstruction or major rehabilitation to be fully functional again, and 86% of cropland is damaged.

The UN estimated in February that the reconstruction of the territory would cost $53.2 billion (£46.1bn) over the next 10 years.

"We paid a lot of money for this war," said Smotrich. "So we need to divide how we make a percentage on the land marketing later".

Smotrich, leader of Israel's Religious Zionist party, is an ultranationalist who has been sanctioned by the UK and other countries over repeated incitements of violence against Palestinians.

He has control over planning in the West Bank and has repeatedly pushed expansionist policies.

In late August, he unveiled a proposal for the annexation of approximately four-fifths of the the territory.

He said the plan would involve "applying Israeli sovereignty" to approximately 82% of the West Bank, adding that this was in line with the principle of "maximum land with minimum Arabs".

Israel has built about 160 settlements housing 700,000 Jews since it occupied the West Bank and East Jerusalem - land Palestinians want, along with Gaza, for a hoped-for future state - during the 1967 Middle East war. An estimated 3.3 million Palestinians live alongside them.

The settlements are illegal under international law.

Israel launched its war in Gaza in response to the Hamas-led attack on southern Israel on 7 October 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 others were taken hostage.

At least 65,062 people have been killed in Israeli attacks since then, almost half of them women and children, according to Gaza's health ministry.

This week, a UN commission of inquiry concluded that Israel had committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza - an allegation the Israeli government strongly denied.

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Charlie Kirk in his own words. We Report. You Decide.

 

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Starmer set to announce UK recognition of Palestinian state

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce800enrglzo

Sir Keir Starmer is expected to announce the UK's recognition of a Palestinian state in a statement on Sunday afternoon.

The prime minister said in July that the UK would shift its position unless Israel met several conditions, including agreeing to a ceasefire in the Gaza Strip and committing to a long-term peace process leading to a Palestinian state co-existing alongside Israel.

The Israeli leadership has ruled this out since the start of the war following Hamas's attack in southern Israel on 7 October 2023 in which 1,200 people were killed and 251 taken hostage.

The PM's move has drawn fierce criticism from the Israeli government, families of hostages held in Gaza and some Conservatives.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu previously said recognition of a Palestinian state "rewards terror".

The decision to recognise a Palestinian state represents a major change in UK foreign policy, after successive governments said recognition should come as part of a peace process and at a time of maximum impact.

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From Nazi Germany to Trump’s America: why strongmen rely on women at home

Fascist regimes pushed narratives of domestic bliss, yet relied on women’s unpaid labor. In the US today, ‘womanosphere’ influencers promote the same fantasies

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/sep/21/fascism-women-homemaker-trad-wife

In 1980, Gertrud Scholtz-Klink, an unrepentant former leader of the Nazi women’s bureau in Berlin from 1934 to 1945, described her former job to historian Claudia Koonz as “influencing women in their daily lives”.

To her audience – approximately 4 million girls in the Nazi youth movement, 8 million women in Nazi associations under her jurisdiction, and 1.9 million subscribers to her women’s magazine, Frauen Warte, according to Koonz – Scholtz-Klink promoted what she called “the cradle and the ladle”, or reproductive and household duties as essential to national strength.

“There was a whole array of women’s magazines that glorified housewives” in Nazi Germany, says Koonz, a professor emerita of history at Duke University. “It would be the equivalent of social media today.” Frauen Warte contained nothing too political – just broadly appealing lifestyle content about keeping a clean and well-provisioned home while raising a healthy family, with occasional debates about how much makeup one should wear. A barefaced look was preferred – much like the “clean girl” trend of today. “In a censored society everyone needs debates about harmless topics,” says Koonz.

Koonz is well-acquainted with the ways political strongmen rely on women’s labor at the family level to implement state ideology. Her 1986 book, Mothers in the Fatherland, describes how the ordinary women of Nazi Germany “operated at its very center”, incubating ideals of white supremacy, female subordination and sacrifice at home.

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Fascism and the family

Thinkers including 20th-century German theorist Theodor Adorno and contemporary American political philosopher George Lakoff theorized about the paternalist personality of authoritarians, with Lakoff noting that in modern history, far-right authoritarian regimes institutionalize male authority through a family-like hierarchy: women are subservient to men and both obey the nation’s metaphorical “strict father”. In the home, paternal authority and maternal subservience prime children for a wider social order, teaching them to see women’s submission as stability, and to accept fear and conformity as the price of belonging.

“There’s been a reluctance to name this moment as fascism,” says cultural historian Tiffany Florvil, yet extreme authoritarian dynamics can be clearly seen in the American right today. (Indeed, Trump supporters can’t seem to stop calling him “Daddy”.)

The government’s unprecedented deportations of immigrants; use of Ice to unjustly detain people in detention centers fraught with human rights abuses; intimidation of judges, law firms and universities; and assaults on the fundamental principles of liberal democracy are prompting historians who specialize in fascism to leave the country.

And significant backlash against gender equality is under way. The idea that women’s bodies are state resources for sustaining population appears to be re-emerging; the Trump administration is encouraging traditional roles by rolling back workplace equity, restricting reproductive rights and policing gender identity.

A woman’s “most glorious duty is to give children to her people and nation, children who can continue the line of generations and who guarantee the immortality of the nation”, Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi propagandist, told an audience of women in 1933. Racially selective population growth was core to the agenda of such nationalist, fascist regimes as Nazi Germany and Benito Mussolini’s Italy. The only path to honor for most women was birthing children, formalized through financial rewards and medals for prolific mothers.

The Nazi party [made] ordinary women feel valued in a way that women in more liberal parties didn’t

Claudia Koonz, historian

Similarly, the Trump administration touts pronatalist rewards, such as a $1,000 government-funded investment account for new babies, and has discussed others, including a “National Medal of Motherhood” for women with six children. While vice-president JD Vance cried: “I want more babies in the United States of America” at an anti-abortion rally in early 2025, Republicans in Congress plotted eliminating federal tax credits for daycare and other supports that enable women’s workforce participation – an effort to control women’s social roles.

The administration’s policies suggest its goal is not only population growth but specifically more white births. By rolling back reproductive rights more drastically than at any point in the last 50 years, the Trump administration has set the stage for worsening maternal mortality – especially for Black women, who die in childbirth at nearly three-and-a-half times the rate of white women. It has also demonstrated hostility to people of color, tearing immigrant families apart, curtailing immigration and ordering an end to birthright citizenship.

Fascist pronatalist policy depends on the veneer of white, Christian “family values” – a strategy that echoes Scholtz-Klink’s work as Nazi Germany’s proto-influencer, promoting a sweet, soft life of “Kinder, Küche, Kirche” (“children, kitchen, church”). When interviewed, Scholtz-Klink insisted to Koonz that she and her female colleagues had nothing to do with concentration camps, genocide or political doctrine – that they barely even knew about those things. Instead, Scholtz-Klink made domestic and reproductive duty feel prestigious, rather than peremptory, helping “the Nazi party make ordinary women feel valued in a way that other women in more liberal parties didn’t”, Koonz says.

Motherhood can be deeply fulfilling, and few would argue that family life is unimportant. Yet authoritarian movements have long politicized it, reframing it as women’s sole purpose and a substitute for autonomy and rights. National instability only amplifies the message that a woman’s rightful place is home with her children. “If there’s chaos,” Koonz says, “then the women who are keeping the home front stable have even more responsibility: ‘There’s chaos out there, but my family is going to have traditional values.’”

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How women spread the domestic fantasy

As authoritarian regimes rise, they often rely on a women’s movement to keep society stable and operational on a household level, framing regressive policies in more approachable and alluring terms. This is especially true for fascist regimes, which rely on mass participation to advance their extreme nationalist agendas. Today, that role is being taken up by the digital “womanosphere”, also called the femosphere.

A counterpart to the “manosphere”, an influential online sphere redolent with misogyny, the womanosphere is an informal web of online creators who rally around normative femininity. Its idea of womanhood is informed by anti-queerness, white supremacy, fundamentalist Christianity and traditional maternalism. It also maps on to the extreme, discriminatory agenda of Project 2025, which aims to roll back historical victories of the women’s movement such as workplace equality, education and healthcare.

These values are platformed by conservative millennial and gen Z content creators including Alex Clark, host of the Maha wellness podcast Culture Apothecary; “professional yapper” Brett Cooper; YouTuber Isabel Brown; conservative provocateur Candace Owens; anti-transgender activist and podcast host Riley Gaines; Christian influencer Allie Beth Stuckey; and publications such as the “conservative Cosmo”, Evie magazine. Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk’s conservative student group, held a yearly women’s summit where marriage, procreation and homemaking were key topics.

Womanosphere content ranges from the overtly political to what might, at first glance, look like ordinary lifestyle aesthetics. These nostalgic visions of beauty – wholesome, aspirational representations of gardening, cooking, wellness and motherhood, embodied by “trad” homemaking influencers such as Hannah Neeleman and Sarah Therese – have broad appeal. While not all “cottagecore” creators are conservative proselytizers, this type of content is noted for its role in an “alt-right” pipeline, where liberatory innovations such as birth control are framed as “toxic”, and the ideal status is married, barefoot and pregnant.

 

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Womanosphere content elevates the joys of the home and motherhood while sidelining women’s mounting social and political disenfranchisement, ultimately reinforcing fascist values such as gender hierarchy and duty to the nation. To Koonz, it all feels like more of the same thing: “children, kitchen and church” for the digital age.

In the womanosphere, the home is a woman’s place: good, normal women want to stay there. This digital movement reflects what feminist media scholar Dr Jilly Boyce Kay calls “reactionary feminism”, an anti-progressive backlash that argues “commitment, affection, and protection” are women’s “evolutionarily-determined ‘interests’”, with little room for nuance.

The womanosphere trades in individualistic strategies for rebelling against the perceived liberal status quo, reinforcing age-old gender hierarchies. Namely, if a woman is financially dependent on a husband, she is free from the burden of paid employment and can devote herself fully to domestic life, rather than splitting her time between job and home. The crushing pressure on women to both work and do most of the housework – as well as the public health crisis of parental burnout – make these arguments seductive.

But womanosphere content tends to gloss over complex material realities; for instance, the conditions that made single-breadwinner households more viable in the 1950s no longer exist. Attacks on reproductive rights actually curtail the futures women are able to choose, and without financial independence, women can be unable to leave situations of domestic violence.

Womanosphere creators often espouse the wisdom of removing oneself from the sphere of market-mediated labor while monetizing their content

Sophie Lewis, feminist theorist

Women like Scholtz-Klink grasped the historically rare opportunity to distinguish themselves in authoritarian regimes by becoming mouthpieces; today, no official sanction is required (though political groups do fund content creators through often opaque campaigns). The attention economy offers its own incentives, and the contrarianism of women fighting gender parity can make for algorithmic gold. The hypocrisy is evident: womanosphere creators often espouse the wisdom of removing oneself from “the sphere of market-mediated labor while, in fact, monetizing their content”, says Sophie Lewis, feminist theorist and author of the recent book Enemy Feminisms: Terfs, Policewomen, and Girlbosses Against Liberation.

Womanosphere influencers often post nonchalantly misogynistic content. Recently, influencer Alex Clark, who has boasted about her “sneaky” tactic of spreading ideology through wellness content, platformed a guest who claimed that when women “step into the masculine” – by expressing anger, assertiveness or authority – it “actually literally kills [them]”, citing rising rates of breast cancer as proof. For the sake of their own health, the clip suggests, women should remain docile and calm.

But patriarchal politics hurt women, even those who participate: far-right Georgia congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene told the Daily Mail this August that there are “women in our party that are really sick and tired of the way [Republican] men treat Republican women”. Republican women realize they cannot get abortions when they need them. Cooper, the womanosphere creator, admitted to the New York Times that rightwing peers have called her “crazy” for working while pregnant. Lauren Southern, a Canadian influencer who rose to fame posting content critical of feminism and immigration, recently released a memoir confessing she was emotionally tortured in her traditionalist marriage. “The most miserable people I’ve met have been stuck in this weird, larpy trad dynamic,” Southern said in an interview this May.

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When the state fails, women step in

Fascism may betray women, but it still relies on their support.

“What fascisms old and new have in common is they tend to look to women to fill in the gaps that the state misses,” says historian Diana Garvin.

Mussolini’s fascist Italy engineered an image of modernization, economic growth and agricultural plenty from the 1920s to the 40s. But after Mussolini alienated trade partners, Italy’s reliance on domestic products contributed to food shortages so severe Italians did not have enough wheat to make pasta. In her 2022 book Feeding Fascism: The Politics of Women’s Food Work, Garvin writes that the state’s propagandist narrative of domestic bliss concealed systemic reliance on women’s unpaid labor in the home; mothers were expected to absorb food shortages through their own ingenuity and hard work.

Italian lifestyle magazines such as La Cucina Italiana worked to launder the food scarcity resulting from Mussolini’s poor governance into a source of individual pride, sharing pictures of little girls who grew prize vegetables and offering recipes using leftover rice. The government wanted women to cover for its failures, and “be happy about it”, says Garvin.

Similar efforts may be required in the US as Donald Trump guts what remains of a paltry social safety net. The administration has cut funding to healthcare and the Environmental Protection Agency; dismantled the Department of Education, reducing the accessibility and equity of education for children; and downgraded systems intended to keep the food supply safe, including staff cuts at the Food and Drug Administration.

Without adequate and accessible medical care, food and education, mothers can end up becoming de facto home teachers, farmers and medics.

Under the pretense of a return to rugged individualism, the Trump administration is abdicating responsibility for American needs. In July, the US Department of Homeland Security posted kitsch art of a frontier couple cradling a baby on social media, with the caption “Remember your Homeland’s Heritage.” The message: Americans should be proud of their resilience, as they are being left on their own.

Womanosphere influencers prime women to romanticize duty and encourage them to dismiss feminist political engagement as woke nonsense. They help direct the national conversation away from how the government could invest in communities through benefits such as better housing stability, paid family leave, Medicare for all and universal, affordable childcare. Democrats’ failure to adequately support and value women has enabled the right to capitalize on widespread dissatisfaction, convincing women to expect less from a nation that could give them more.

Without adequate and accessible medical care, food and education, mothers can end up becoming de facto home teachers, farmers and medics. Trad influencers gloss this unjust workload as a homage to homesteading (and leverage it to market unsubstantiated remedies) instead of calling it what it is: picking up the state’s slack. Cuts to education seem less threatening when you are convinced your role is to homeschool your children; a less safe, more expensive food supply seems less problematic when you believe everyone should be growing their own produce and making everything from scratch; defunding the Center for Disease Control does not seem so bad when you have been conditioned to distrust vaccines and believe you can cure a child’s measles with “herbal remedies or old food medicine”.

 

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Mussolini’s government also “really wanted to get women out of middle-class jobs so that they could open up those spaces for men, because there had been real employment problems”, says Garvin. The nation used the cultural trope of the “donna-crisi” or “crisis woman” – a negative stereotype of an urban and independent woman, similar to the contemporary American right’s “victim of feminism” or JD Vance’s “childless cat ladies” – to slander working women. Yet while propaganda promoted the image of middle and upper-class women sheltered from work, the reality was more calculated, says Garvin: fascist Italy wanted lower-class women in the workforce, where they could be paid less than men.

In July, the Trump administration imposed new work requirements for Medicaid, a state-federal program providing healthcare to more than 77 million low-income people, 80% of them women with a median age of 40. Agriculture secretary Brooke Rollins has suggested these citizens can work in US farms to maintain their coverage, replacing deported immigrant workers. For all their promises of domestic bliss, classical European fascist regimes sent housewives into factories and fields when labor was needed. Consistently, it is women who are ultimately expected to shoulder the burdens of the nation’s failure.

Women who become obedient domestic caretakers may be willfully, even happily, bearing the mantle. They may believe they see a fundamental truth in assuming dependence as the price of security, trusting that patriarchy will protect them so long as they keep its house spotless and bake its bread with a smile. Yet many do not reckon with the influence of hypocritical propaganda on their choices – or with the consequences of accommodating a tyranny that could turn on them.

In place of freedom, equality, power and choice, the Trump regime offers women flattery and a duplicitously simplistic worldview that denies their agency. While women are crucial to the Maga project, some of its supporters have begun to realize that traditional life is not just a halcyon fantasy of the past, but a harbinger of a forlorn future. Life on the patriarchal homestead may not turn out as rosy as advertised.

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UK, Canada and Australia formally recognise Palestinian state

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2025/sep/21/keir-starmer-palestine-recognition-announcement-gaza-uk-politics-live

UK recognises Palestinian statehood, Starmer says

The British prime minister, Keir Starmer, has just announced the UK’s recognition of a Palestinian state, in what is seen as a major change in UK foreign policy, albeit largely symbolic.

It comes shortly after Canada and Australia both decided to recognise Palestine as a sovereign state.

 

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Closing summary

• The UK, Australia and Canada have all formally recognised Palestinian statehood in a diplomatically significant – but highly symbolic – move that puts three major US allies at odds with the Trump administration.

• The British prime minister, Keir Starmer, said the historic move was needed to “revive the hope of peace and a two-state solution” and stressed that it was not a reward for Hamas’ terrorism.

• Starmer said his government will sanction Hamas figures in the coming weeks. He also urged Israel to lift restrictions at Gaza’s border to allow for a surge in humanitarian aid, and said the “death and destruction” in Gaza “must end”.

• Israel’s foreign ministry said “recognition is nothing but a reward for jihadist Hamas”.

• Canada technically became the first G7 nation to recognise a Palestinian state, making the announcement on social media shortly before Australia and the UK. “Canada recognises the State of Palestine and offers our partnership in building the promise of a peaceful future for both the state of Palestine and the state of Israel,” the Canadian prime minister, Mark Carney, wrote.

• Other countries, including France, are expected to follow suit this week at the UN general assembly in New York.