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[Fernando 6,602]

9 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Yeah agree he was given millions of dollars by Israel to found TP. 

You're right he was very pro Isarel, but he was starting to change. Not in his support for Isarel, but in just calling it how it is.  He was mentioning Epstein as Mossad and Oct 7th 2023 how the border troops were ordered to stand down - he was going the way of Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. 

Interesting, the only problem is that Epstein is dead so we couldn't question about this connectiong as a Mossad agent. 

But if Kirk was aware of that I'm sure his wife would know......

People can always question his now widow wife in the future about this. If she did know something, did his husband mentioned anything about this? 

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58 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Interesting, the only problem is that Epstein is dead so we couldn't question about this connectiong as a Mossad agent. 

But if Kirk was aware of that I'm sure his wife would know......

People can always question his now widow wife in the future about this. If she did know something, did his husband mentioned anything about this? 

Because of his patriarchy, I think his wife was a stay at home stereotype little wife role - he spoke of women should behave like that. Could be wrong though

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24 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Because of his patriarchy, I think his wife was a stay at home stereotype little wife role - he spoke of women should behave like that. Could be wrong though

Yes I did saw a debate about this with him an a femmnist. He did believe in that patriarchy vs the feminist movement. 

Could be or could not. We will never know unless she spoke about it and if her husband did talk to her about that. 

At this time just pure speculation. We don't know and have nothing concrete. 

My speculation is just a general guy that killed him, nothing deep secret conspiracy theory about it. It was a guy that grew up in a conservative life but as he grew up he differed from the views from his family and he got a hatred for Kirk as a fascist pig. 

Just a normal guy gone crazy with a vendetta for me. 

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8 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yes I did saw a debate about this with him an a femmnist. He did believe in that patriarchy vs the feminist movement. 

Could be or could not. We will never know unless she spoke about it and if her husband did talk to her about that. 

At this time just pure speculation. We don't know and have nothing concrete. 

My speculation is just a general guy that killed him, nothing deep secret conspiracy theory about it. It was a guy that grew up in a conservative life but as he grew up he differed from the views from his family and he got a hatred for Kirk as a fascist pig. 

Just a normal guy gone crazy with a vendetta for me. 

The shooter ? yeah maybe. His dad a staunch Republican dobbed him in apparently. 

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Spanish PM calls for Israel to be barred from international sport

 

Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez has called for Israel to be excluded from international sports competitions over its actions in Gaza.

"Israel cannot continue to use any international platform to whitewash its image,"

Earlier in the day, Sánchez had said that previous protests during the three-week race had shown that Spain "shines as an example, with pride" on the Gaza issue.

Several Spanish government ministers also praised the final stage protest, which involved about 100,000 people, according to official figures.

"It's a relief to me that thousands and thousands of people mobilise against that genocide, because it is genocide and it has no other name," said Óscar López, the minister of digital transformation.

Culture Minister Ernest Urtasun also said Israel should not take part in the next Eurovision Song Contest, repeating calls made by Sánchez earlier this year.

"We have to make sure that Israel does not take part in the next Eurovision," Urtasun said.

The public broadcasters of Ireland and the Netherlands have already said they will not participate if Israel is included in the contest, because of the "appalling" and "severe" loss of lives and human suffering in Gaza.

A recent poll by the Elcano Royal Institute think tank indicated at least 82% of Spaniards believe genocide is being committed in Gaza.

Two days after Sánchez's announcement, the European Commission President, Ursula von der Leyen, called for a suspension of free trade and bilateral support with Israel, as she spoke of the "man-made famine" in Gaza.

Von der Leyen also lamented what she called Europe's "painful" inability to find an adequate response to Israel's actions.

Israel controls all border crossings into the Gaza Strip, and as the occupying power bears responsibility for protecting civilian life under international law, which includes the prevention of starvation.

BBC

[Fernando 6,602]

43 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

The shooter ? yeah maybe. His dad a staunch Republican dobbed him in apparently. 

In one thing where i was debating with vesper is that often times when you read an article it will be highly bias. They tend to take one word or phrase to build their entire teaching. 

For example I been doing some more further research on what Kirk believe in Immigration just by listening to his word, in context, with no cuts and all that nonsenese that Journos and people do. And it came out a very thought out process. 

 

From 14:03 to 24:40 he gives a detail response as to his view on immigration. And I have to say my man gives a thoughtful view. 

I still don't agree with his point of view with immigration but this is much smarter then labels he got thrown as xenophobic and what not. 

That's why I tend to be very skeptical with articles and what not as they tend to have a bias and choose and pick what they want. 

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

In one thing where i was debating with vesper is that often times when you read an article it will be highly bias. They tend to take one word or phrase to build their entire teaching. 

For example I been doing some more further research on what Kirk believe in Immigration just by listening to his word, in context, with no cuts and all that nonsenese that Journos and people do. And it came out a very thought out process. 

 

From 14:03 to 24:40 he gives a detail response as to his view on immigration. And I have to say my man gives a thoughtful view. 

I still don't agree with his point of view with immigration but this is much smarter then labels he got thrown as xenophobic and what not. 

That's why I tend to be very skeptical with articles and what not as they tend to have a bias and choose and pick what they want. 

Its interesting as I said - the actual debate where he is changing his views on Isarel has been deleted from Youtube ! Its like we said free speech ? Mmm

Luckily some commentators actually recorded the debate/interview. But fuck me the level of censorship is scary.

 

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10 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Its interesting as I said - the actual debate where he is changing his views on Isarel has been deleted from Youtube ! Its like we said free speech ? Mmm

Luckily some commentators actually recorded the debate/interview. But fuck me the level of censorship is scary.

 

Thanks for the video. 

Yes he is asking some questions that to me needs to be address when this is all over. 

And those should be address when this all over, because no war is eternal. I would think the own Israelites will do a thorought investigation into this and if this is true he would be jailed. 

Which in all fact I think a lot of people in their should be jailed. They are not committing genocide but more like war crime and officers and what not should go to jail once this is all over. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Thanks for the video. 

Yes he is asking some questions that to me needs to be address when this is all over. 

And those should be address when this all over, because no war is eternal. I would think the own Israelites will do a thorought investigation into this and if this is true he would be jailed. 

Which in all fact I think a lot of people in their should be jailed. They are not committing genocide but more like war crime and officers and what not should go to jail once this is all over. 

 

Maybe. Though with respect I prefer to take the word of over 120 organisations and Genocide Study experts, historians and UN Genocide qualified professionals, Israeli Holocaust experts and holocaust survivors along with the Isareli group B'tselem

According to a United Nations special committee,Amnesty International, Médecins Sans Frontières, B'Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights–Israel, International Federation for Human Rights, numerous genocide studies and international law scholars(including the International Association of Genocide Scholars), and many other experts, Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians during its ongoing blockade, invasion, and bombing of the Gaza Strip.[ Experts and human rights organisations identified acts of genocide, such as large-scale killing and use of starvation as a weapon of war, with the intent to destroy Gaza's population in whole or in part. Other such genocidal acts include destroying civilian infrastructure, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, using mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and preventing births.

By August 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 60,138 people in Gaza had been killed—1 out of every 37 people—averaging 91 deaths per day. Most of the victims are civilians, of whom at least 50% are women and children.[Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are the highest. Thousands more uncounted dead bodies are thought to be under the rubble of destroyed

[Fernando 6,602]

34 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Maybe. Though with respect I prefer to take the word of over 120 organisations and Genocide Study experts, historians and UN Genocide qualified professionals, Israeli Holocaust experts and holocaust survivors along with the Isareli group B'tselem

According to a United Nations special committee,Amnesty International, Médecins Sans Frontières, B'Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights–Israel, International Federation for Human Rights, numerous genocide studies and international law scholars(including the International Association of Genocide Scholars), and many other experts, Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians during its ongoing blockade, invasion, and bombing of the Gaza Strip.[ Experts and human rights organisations identified acts of genocide, such as large-scale killing and use of starvation as a weapon of war, with the intent to destroy Gaza's population in whole or in part. Other such genocidal acts include destroying civilian infrastructure, killing healthcare workers and aid-seekers, using mass forced displacement, committing sexual violence, and preventing births.

By August 2025, the Gaza Health Ministry had reported that at least 60,138 people in Gaza had been killed—1 out of every 37 people—averaging 91 deaths per day. Most of the victims are civilians, of whom at least 50% are women and children.[Compared to other recent global conflicts, the numbers of known deaths of journalists, humanitarian and health workers, and children are the highest. Thousands more uncounted dead bodies are thought to be under the rubble of destroyed

But there's a problem I have, and I'm skeptical of UN, they are so biased

I have a problem with this: Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruciton of a racial. 

How can it be deliberate when they are their because of Hamas?

If anything it would be hamas that is doing genocide as they provoke this and don't nothing to stop as they don't care for their people. 

If Gaza are startving then how come Hamas is still kicing on about? 

So I have a problem with that part of deliberate. 

The other parts of the definition of genocide are true, Israel is doing that. I don't deny that. The blockade, bombing and all that stuff is true. 

BUT the definition of genocide is also adding "with the intent to eliminate the groups existence".

I don't see that intent when they are their because of Hamas and Hamas still fighting. 

I will agree with this definition if say Hamas surrender, gives back all the hostage and then Israel continues attacking for no good reason. 

Then I will say 100 percent genocide. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Fernando