Politics & Stuff

[Fernando 6,595]

On 11/03/2025 at 16:29, Fulham Broadway said:

Good news if Russia agree to a peace deal

I think no way Tesla shares will recover to what they were -  it seems most of the World are not happy with Musk and reckon hes bit of a fascist cunt

Tesla at 395. What a great recovery. 

As I been saying the world tends to get it wrong in the market. You need to play contrary to what the world fears in the stock market. 

The whole fear of Trump and the fascist Musk was a golden opportunity to buy. 

Remember that next time you see market crashing. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,360]

14 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Tesla at 395. What a great recovery. 

As I been saying the world tends to get it wrong in the market. You need to play contrary to what the world fears in the stock market. 

The whole fear of Trump and the fascist Musk was a golden opportunity to buy. 

Remember that next time you see market crashing. 

I leave those decisions to my broker - prob why my portfolio is shite - but tbh not that interested in ups and downs as long as I get an income and divis from it 😜

Disassociating himself from Trump was a good move for Tesla

How much did you make then son ?

[Fernando 6,595]

44 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

I leave those decisions to my broker - prob why my portfolio is shite - but tbh not that interested in ups and downs as long as I get an income and divis from it 😜

Disassociating himself from Trump was a good move for Tesla

How much did you make then son ?

Won't give a number but let's just say enough to pay the balance for my wife NX and put a down payment for my TX. 

If you want dividends I recommend buying the ETF DIA. This ETF tracks the Dow Jones and it pays a monthly dividen. 

Good to buy Dow Jones on market crash. 

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“Or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill them.” - Fox News Host during a segment about the homeless population

 

 

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Charlie Kirk memorial chant: "White man fight back!"

 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,360]

18 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Charlie Kirk memorial chant: "White man fight back!"

 

 

Again Trump has instigated this.

Every President in history after a killing like this stresses the need for calm, peace and unification on all sides.

Trump immediately went on the offensive towards 'liberals' before we even knew the perpetrator. 

We saw how he instigates conflict and potential civil war with him goading people to attack the capital. Total fucking liabilty to have a low ratings TV reality star as president

[Fulham Broadway 17,360]

26 minutes ago, Vesper said:

“Or involuntary lethal injection or something. Just kill them.” - Fox News Host during a segment about the homeless population

 

 

Murdochs ''news'' channel always seeking a new low. Trump described criminals ''rapists, muggers, the homeless'' Half of US citizens are two weeks salary away from eviction

. Lot of those homeless fought for their country, have PTSD and  didnt hide behind ''bone spurs''

[Fernando 6,595]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

Charlie Kirk memorial chant: "White man fight back!"

 

 

And idiots that is not the legacy that he would want. 

I'm sure he would want more people like him to continue doing the same job he did. 

As he often debated against the liberal, woke view and all that stuff in campuses. 

Weather we get killed oh well but your standing up for your beliefs, and from what I seen from him he was for a lot of Christian belief. The one I did not agree with him was for guns because that is not in the Bible. If anything Jesus recommends the opposite of weapon, peace and humility. The authority in place are the only that should have that power not common people. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Fernando said:

And idiots that is not the legacy that he would want. 

I'm sure he would want more people like him to continue doing the same job he did. 

As he often debated against the liberal, woke view and all that stuff in campuses. 

 

Kirk's 'legacy' is being whitewashed by the RW. He was a racist, homophobic, misogynistic, bigoted, CT-pushing, christofascist, hateful asshole.

 

Charlie Kirk in his own words: ‘prowling Blacks’ and ‘the great replacement strategy’

The far-right commentator didn’t pull his punches when discussing his bigoted views on current events

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

 

Charlie Kirk, the far-right commentator and ally of Donald Trump, was killed on Wednesday doing what he was known for throughout his career – making incendiary and often racist and sexist comments to large audiences.

If it was current and controversial in US politics, chances are that Kirk was talking about it. On his podcasts, and on the podcasts of friends and adversaries, and especially on college campuses, where he would go to debate students, Kirk spent much of his adult life defending and articulating a worldview aligned with Trump and the Maga movement. Accountable to no one but his audience, he did not shy away in his rhetoric from bigotry, intolerance, exclusion and stereotyping.

Here’s Kirk, in his own words. Many of his comments were documented by Media Matters for America, a progressive non-profit that tracks conservative media.

On race

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022

Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

On debate

We record all of it so that we put [it] on the internet so people can see these ideas collide. When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens, because you start to think the other side is so evil, and they lose their humanity.

– Kirk discussing his work in an undated clip that circulated on X after his killing.

Prove me wrong.

– Kirk’s challenge to students to publicly debate him during the tour of colleges he was on when he was assassinated.

On gender, feminism and reproductive rights

Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.

– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025

The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.

– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024

We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024

 

On gun violence

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.

– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

On immigration

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024

The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024

On Islam

America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025

We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025

Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.

– Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025

On religion

There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

[Fernando 6,595]

15 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Kirk's 'legacy' is being whitewashed by the RW. He was a racist, homophobic, misogynistic, bigoted, CT-pushing, christofascist, hateful asshole.

 

Charlie Kirk in his own words: ‘prowling Blacks’ and ‘the great replacement strategy’

The far-right commentator didn’t pull his punches when discussing his bigoted views on current events

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs

 

Charlie Kirk, the far-right commentator and ally of Donald Trump, was killed on Wednesday doing what he was known for throughout his career – making incendiary and often racist and sexist comments to large audiences.

If it was current and controversial in US politics, chances are that Kirk was talking about it. On his podcasts, and on the podcasts of friends and adversaries, and especially on college campuses, where he would go to debate students, Kirk spent much of his adult life defending and articulating a worldview aligned with Trump and the Maga movement. Accountable to no one but his audience, he did not shy away in his rhetoric from bigotry, intolerance, exclusion and stereotyping.

Here’s Kirk, in his own words. Many of his comments were documented by Media Matters for America, a progressive non-profit that tracks conservative media.

On race

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

If you’re a WNBA, pot-smoking, Black lesbian, do you get treated better than a United States marine?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 8 December 2022

Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023

If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action?

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024

If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called racists. Now they’re coming out and they’re saying it for us … You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 13 July 2023

On debate

We record all of it so that we put [it] on the internet so people can see these ideas collide. When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence. That’s when civil war happens, because you start to think the other side is so evil, and they lose their humanity.

– Kirk discussing his work in an undated clip that circulated on X after his killing.

Prove me wrong.

– Kirk’s challenge to students to publicly debate him during the tour of colleges he was on when he was assassinated.

On gender, feminism and reproductive rights

Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.

– Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025

The answer is yes, the baby would be delivered.

– Responding to a question about whether he would support his 10-year-old daughter aborting a pregnancy conceived because of rape on the debate show Surrounded, published on 8 September 2024

We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024

 

On gun violence

I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the second amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.

– Event organized by TPUSA Faith, the religious arm of Kirk’s conservative group Turning Point USA, on 5 April 2023

On immigration

America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024

The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024

On Islam

America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025

We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025

Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.

– Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025

On religion

There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

Wow I wasn't aware of that I only saw videos where he would debate. For example this one:

 

By the way I'm not AI where I follow everything, I only seen a video or two where he debates in school. 

All that info you got is not from you but what AI spit you out. 

So if those quotes are true then obviously he made enemy but the point that I like is that he takes time to debate at school different point of view. That is the legacy that I see that people should continue. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Fernando

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13 minutes ago, Fernando said:

By the way I'm not AI where I follow everything, I only seen a video or two where he debates in school. 

All that info you got is not from you but what AI spit you out. 

Bollocks. I do not use 'AI' for things I post, ever.

That information is from The Guardian, as I clearly showed with the url link.

 

[Fernando 6,595]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Bollocks. I do not use 'AI' for things I post, ever.

That information is from The Guardian, as I clearly showed with the url link.

 

Seems like Guardian uses AI. 

Anyhow So if those quotes are true then obviously he made enemy but the point that I like is that he takes time to debate at school different point of view. That is the legacy that I see that people should continue. 

 

 

[Fulham Broadway 17,360]

14 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Seems like Guardian uses AI. 

Anyhow So if those quotes are true then obviously he made enemy but the point that I like is that he takes time to debate at school different point of view. That is the legacy that I see that people should continue. 

 

 

Shame they dont consider the 146 US  School gun murders (so far this year) as being equally if not more important

[Fernando 6,595]

11 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Shame they dont consider the 146 US  School gun murders (so far this year) as being equally if not more important

Because they need to reduce gun control in which they are not in favor. (When I mean they I mean the people who believe the right to have guns) 

Like I said in the past why I don't agree. Not because I'm Republicans but because I'm a Christian first. 

Republicans view are not perfect and whatever does not align with my world view of the Bible I will say it right out. Not a blind Maga follower, or blind republican party follower. 

So yes they will play dumb because it doesn't do justice to their gun control. 

Now I'm a favor of the gun control but that doesn't mean we will get rid of these violent crime once and for fall. It will reduce a lot but it's not completely gone because we can smuggle gun from another part of the world. 

Edited 5 hours ago by Fernando

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40 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Seems like Guardian uses AI. 

How do you come to that conclusion?

It is a simple article detailing statements made by Kirk himself.

AI has nothing to do with it, come on!

[Fernando 6,595]

6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

How do you come to that conclusion?

It is a simple article detailing statements made by Kirk himself.

AI has nothing to do with it, come on!

And yes I don't argue with the truth. 

If he said that then yes he got a lot of enemy. 

As well I don't agree with everything he says 

But I do give him props is how he went and debated his viewpoint. I like that and that is the legacy we should continue. 

And with AI that looks like a AI generated article but if not then good work on them.

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4 minutes ago, Fernando said:

And with AI that looks like a AI generated article but if not then good work o

that is absolutely not true

it's pure rubbish and it faces up like a gaslighting attempt

it is just a standard article with LINKED proof of the things it states he said

you are rapidly losing credibility with your continued attempts to false frame

[Fernando 6,595]

11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

that is absolutely not true

it's pure rubbish and it faces up like a gaslighting attempt

it is just a standard article with LINKED proof of the things it states he said

you are rapidly losing credibility with your continued attempts to false frame

Wait what are you thinking I'm saying? 

I'm not saying that info is false. I said well if he said that then made a lot of enemy's. 

That I wasn't aware of what everything he said because I'm not an AI. I only watch a couple YouTube videos in which he debated. In which I posted one. 

And as well that info you got it is not because you heard his video, took the time to hear what he said but you asked AI and gave you the article. That is what I'm saying. 

I'm not saying that AI info is fake. So I'm saying I only seen a couple of videos of him just debating on Campusus with college kids. All that other stuff I was not aware of. 

You need an AI to cycle all that stuff for you so that your are aware otherwise I can't know. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Fernando

[Fulham Broadway 17,360]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Because they need to reduce gun control in which they are not in favor. (When I mean they I mean the people who believe the right to have guns) 

Like I said in the past why I don't agree. Not because I'm Republicans but because I'm a Christian first. 

Republicans view are not perfect and whatever does not align with my world view of the Bible I will say it right out. Not a blind Maga follower, or blind republican party follower. 

So yes they will play dumb because it doesn't do justice to their gun control. 

Now I'm a favor of the gun control but that doesn't mean we will get rid of these violent crime once and for fall. It will reduce a lot but it's not completely gone because we can smuggle gun from another part of the world. 

The NRA needs to be challenged - but like the Israeli lobby they fund EVERY Presidents campaign.

They then want payback when the incumbent is in office,

That is why the colonial shoot first, right to bear arms lunacy will prevail

That Kirk bloke thought that the murder of thousands of school children every year was a fair price

 

[Vesper 30,289]

42 minutes ago, Fernando said:

That I wasn't aware of what everything he said because I'm not an AI.

What are you talking about?

Are you implying I am AI?? LOLOL

Pro tip.... you do not need to use AI to find information on the internet.

You do not need to use AI to write an article. The Guardian certainly does not use AI to write their articles.