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By the same token RLC plays the central midfield position better than Izzy plays the attacking midfield position. It shouldn't be based on position (unless there's a bigger need for bodies in the position player A plays in more than player B, which isn't the case here) but rather who is the most talented and has the highest ceiling and scope for development.

That's understandable, but you cannot deduce all of that from the fact that one took part in pre season and the other didn't.

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27 passes, 100% pass completion, 3 interceptions, 1 tackle, 1 block. Not sure what more people were expecting from a 19 year old on his début put in there to sit with Mikel.

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Few people slagging him off already. Unbelievable.

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And then they moan about lack of youth integration!

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That's understandable, but you cannot deduce all of that from the fact that one took part in pre season and the other didn't.

It's usually a strong indication of youth players standing and reputation at the club especially considering izzy is actually a year younger, less physically imposing/ready. If RLC was Musonda's size then I might agree with your statement. Further clue can be taken from Mourinho name dropping Izzy as one of the brightest English prospect in the academy waiting in line even going further to claim he would have failed in his objectives if he didn't make it here.

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I'm guessing Brown was taken for pre season because most of our attacking options had just finished the WC and were on a break. We had enough cover in midfield at that time. Pretty simple.

And RLC could have come in for Ramires and Mikel who were also not available for the same reasons. truth is, at this point in time, Izzy is seen by the club hierarchy as a better prospect than RLC which is totally wrong.

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And RLC could have come in for Ramires and Mikel who were also not available for the same reasons. truth is, at this point in time, Izzy is seen by the club hierarchy as a better prospect than RLC which is totally wrong.

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I suppose you are at Cobham everyday, see them and interact with them daily and you are an expert in youth development. :doh:

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hope he is on the bench with our injuries. im desperate to see him make his debut.

There will be a few times this season youngsters make the last bench spot, our squad is relitevely thin so we are only a few injuries from having no choice in the matter, like on Saturday when Solanke made it.

Whether they get minutes depends on whether our seniors can build a 2-3 goal lead.

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There will be a few times this season youngsters make the last bench spot, our squad is relitevely thin so we are only a few injuries from having no choice in the matter, like on Saturday when Solanke made it.

Whether they get minutes depends on whether our seniors can build a 2-3 goal lead.

Based on the choices Jose has made so far this season, it seems that RLC is behind one or two of the other youngsters and I can't say I'm surprised. That run against Schalke is the first impressive thing I've seen from him for a long time. Mind you it was also the most impressive thing I've seen from anybody for a long time.

This is the heart of the matter with Ruben. His talent is stratospheric but when I watch him play he almost always strolls around doing nothing much. I would bet quite a lot that Jose and/or Adi have had a talk with him; the Hazard talk. There is absolutely no point being better than everybody else unless you use your ability to hurt the opposition. As far as I can tell Ruben uses his mostly to look pretty. If Jose gets through to him, he'll have a great career and we'll have a great player but it's a long, long way from being a given.

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Based on the choices Jose has made so far this season, it seems that RLC is behind one or two of the other youngsters and I can't say I'm surprised. That run against Schalke is the first impressive thing I've seen from him for a long time. Mind you it was also the most impressive thing I've seen from anybody for a long time.

This is the heart of the matter with Ruben. His talent is stratospheric but when I watch him play he almost always strolls around doing nothing much. I would bet quite a lot that Jose and/or Adi have had a talk with him; the Hazard talk. There is absolutely no point being better than everybody else unless you use your ability to hurt the opposition. As far as I can tell Ruben uses his mostly to look pretty. If Jose gets through to him, he'll have a great career and we'll have a great player but it's a long, long way from being a given.

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You summed it up perfectly. For Reuben, it will be about attitude, personality/how bad he wants it? And he about that age(18-21) where those things really determine how he will end up.

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Based on the choices Jose has made so far this season, it seems that RLC is behind one or two of the other youngsters and I can't say I'm surprised. That run against Schalke is the first impressive thing I've seen from him for a long time. Mind you it was also the most impressive thing I've seen from anybody for a long time.

This is the heart of the matter with Ruben. His talent is stratospheric but when I watch him play he almost always strolls around doing nothing much. I would bet quite a lot that Jose and/or Adi have had a talk with him; the Hazard talk. There is absolutely no point being better than everybody else unless you use your ability to hurt the opposition. As far as I can tell Ruben uses his mostly to look pretty. If Jose gets through to him, he'll have a great career and we'll have a great player but it's a long, long way from being a given.

Spot on.

RLC is comfortably our best CM prospect IMO, but does he use his talent to the maximum? I hope what you're saying is the case.

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