Frank Lampard

[Korea 734]

Chelsea homers... No idea what the fuck that is lol.

Where has anyone said he should be our starting midfielder next season.

Wern't you the bloke who said that lampard hasn't been a great midfielder when talking about his entire career???

Kind of, not really. Someone said he was top 5 mf in the past 20 years.

I said he's not even England top mf...... (Never said he wasn't a good player though).

Also, I said I rate Stevie G and scholes above him.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Kind of, not really. Someone said he was top 5 mf in the past 20 years.

I said he's not even England top mf...... (Never said he wasn't a good player though).

Also, I said I rate Stevie G and scholes above him.

[Styles 9,790]

Lampard put torres through one on one, and torres layed it off to no-one. There were also plenty of examples where hazard just lost the ball when it was on the floor. So then you should be getting mad at cech and david luiz, who were the main one lumping it up towards torres.

Hazard lost the ball because whenever he recieved it he was swarmed by at least 3 players. He was an identified dangerman and was treated as such. Lampard wasn't operating in those conditions and still put in an abject display even worse than Hazard.

[Korea 734]

Hazard lost the ball because whenever he recieved it he was swarmed by at least 3 players. He was an identified dangerman and was treated as such. Lampard wasn't operating in those conditions and still put in an abject display even worse than Hazard.

Well, I think they pressed him a lot more, which made him lose tons of balls... I think in most games, the opposing teams don't pressed our mf much. Cept most of our games vs non british opposition.

[Korea 734]

I bet if you ask any English player not name John Terry who they would want as their teammate, I guarantee 9 out of 10 people, would pick Stevie G and Scholes over Lamps...

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

I bet if you ask any English player not name John Terry who they would want as their teammate, I guarantee 9 out of 10 people, would pick Stevie G and Scholes over Lamps...

So, They are all Stupid.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Hazard is in his first season in the league and has four years left on his contract. He's also been pretty good in recent weeks.

Lampard has been the centre of discussions for months and it's perfectly fine to talk about him when he's playing well and people want to slam the club for not renewing him. Then we can bring up his goals and his importance to the team, and his experience and leadership qualities. He's fair game when he puts in a performance like tonight.

To clarify, i am in no way saying Hazard has been bad this season. He is a great player and i am glad we have got him, i am just using him as an example of one of several players who had a game as bad as lampard today. Again, i am not saying no one is allowed to slate lampard. But its the fact he is getting singled out as being bad, as in he is the one responsible for all the long balls and he has been the reason for our poor performances.

As for lampard being the centre of discussion that is true. But then you could say that people are allowed to talk about him when he is playing well because he gets slated when he doesn't (you can put it either way round).

[Hutcho 8,443]

Hazard lost the ball because whenever he recieved it he was swarmed by at least 3 players. He was an identified dangerman and was treated as such. Lampard wasn't operating in those conditions and still put in an abject display even worse than Hazard.

So if he was being swarmed, why wasn't oscar, benayoun and mata when they came on in acres of space. No one played well, not just lampard.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

Stop Blaming Only and Mainly lamps...

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

Stop Blaming Only and Mainly lamps...

When he starts performing to a suitable standard thats required at Chelsea FC everyone will stop criticizing and blaming him.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

When he starts performing to a suitable standard thats required at Chelsea FC everyone will stop criticizing and blaming him.

He can't do that by his own.

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

He can't do that by his own.

I didn't mean the teams performances, I meant Lamps' individual performance. He impressed me a while ago when he had scored like 10 goals in 13 games or whatever. Was doing decent enough in the pivot, hes slumped, as the team has but hes been one of our worst players.

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

I didn't mean the teams performances, I meant Lamps' individual performance. He impressed me a while ago when he had scored like 10 goals in 13 games or whatever. Was doing decent enough in the pivot, hes slumped, as the team has but hes been one of our worst players.

ALL THE TEAM IS SHIT.

[Peace. 4,352]

I think that this whole thing "keep 'em for the experience and leadership blablabla" is misleading us. It seems to be the consensus that an old player is useful in the sense that he brings experience to the side. Though, in my mind that's the same thing as saying that a great player will make a good manager. And that's just as saying that an old wine is a good wine. That's not the case.

It's one thing to have cross your sword all around the continent at the highest level. But that's another thing to put this experience into application ; to share it to others.

And to my belief, it's not the case for Lampard. Tonight, once again he went missing. I have already put into the lights that his "experience" was nowhere to be seen against Newcastle (3-1) and Man.City (2-0). That was also the case in the game against QPR (0-1), and tonight against that romanian team as well (1-0). These games are the more relevant in that regard — but there are others. For instance, against West Bromwich (1-0), he was fairly average — not bad, but not good. And in these five games that I have mentioned (Bucarest, West Bromwich, ManCity, Newcastle and QPR), one could question his leadership — tonight being the more convincing example (though, he wasn't the only one who didn't showcase his leadership).

Indeed. He fails to bring his stamp upon the game, to influence it. For someone who's supposed to show leadership and experience, that is not normal. The game just seems to passes him by. And the fact that, the only few times he is noticable are when he shots from 40 yards or score a goal, gets a lot of meanings when it regards a central midfielder.

And the example of Scholes and Giggs is irrelevant. As someone said on this forum yesterday (or so), they are not the rule, but the exception. In my mind, they bring to that Man.United team more than Lampard brings us. Even when they are average, you can feel that they influence the game of their team, that they are involved in it. I do not get the same feeling from our n°8.

Last summer, we didn't hesitate to part our paths with Drogba. Even though the half French would have had a lot more to bring us than what Lampard could bring us in the future. When we let him go, he was still able to make World-Class performance (c.f. his whole CL campaign, especially against Valencia). He has also that ability to know when calm down the game and he manages perfectly to waste time — these abilities would have been handy more than once this season. Off course he has also his share of games where he cannot be bother. But all in all, I think that someone like Didier would have been a good condidate for that "experience" thing (Ashley Cole is also a good call) ; I do not think that Lampard suits that role (at the light of the the 20 last games, he has proved me right).

Sometimes we need to stop to hang to our past and to make the big step, in order to go forward. The day will come when we will have to swim without our life buoy. I believe that blooding-out one Old-Guard player per year is the good rate. In my opinion, this summer is the perfect time for Chelsea and Lampard to take different paths.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

Its taken a right wing extremist looney to state the obvious to the English press.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4828595/Steaua-Bucharest-owner-Gigi-Becali-says-Chelsea-are-too-slow-to-win.html

Becali warned: “I think we can win this and I’m sure we will, you will
see!

“Chelsea are a very good team but they are slow and we also want to win more.

“Alexandru Chipciu is going to be dynamite in midfield against Frank Lampard.
You’ll see, he will fly passed him!”