Since February with and without David Luiz - the facts

[Henrique 9,133]

I remember when i got in an argument with a fellow Chelsea fan in a sauna about that very opinion. Carvalho was better then Terry and he made Terry look better then he actually was in reality. Terry has his limits but his limits were Carvalho's strength's and vice versa but carvalho's reading of the game was second to none, he along with Makalele made us impossible to score against.

What you were doing in a sauna with a onother fan?

[CHOULO19 24,332]

In 2011, also from February, Luiz has given away 3 penalties, more than any player in the EPL. Does that make him the worst defender in the league?

Statistics' a bitch my friend..

[Badboy 1,526]

What you were doing in a sauna with a onother fan?

I was in the sauna in a gym in London back in 2006, there was around 5 people inside. He asked me what team i support and i said Chelsea and he said he was a Chelsea fan too then we got talking about the team. He thought Terry was better then Ricky but i told him he was not then we got into a little heated debate lol, i could hardly breath.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

we got into a little heated debate lol

in a sauna as well!

[dodojojo 510]

Luiz hasn't played in the tougher games this season, like United and Arsenal. So those numbers are against weaker competition.

Either way I don't have a strong stance on whether or not to start Luiz. I would based on his athleticism. I wouldn't based on his brain freezes. But Chelsea's defensive issues go beyond starting Luiz or not.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Luiz hasn't played in the tougher games this season, like United and Arsenal. So those numbers are against weaker competition.

Either way I don't have a strong stance on whether or not to start Luiz. I would based on his athleticism. I wouldn't based on his brain freezes. But Chelsea's defensive issues go beyond starting Luiz or not.

That is an excellent point.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

David Luiz is terrific, absolutely terrific. Give me one David Luiz over all of the generic English centre backs you can think of. He has been a fantastic addition to the side and he has so many things going for him. I have never seen a better one on one defender in my life, he is a very high calibre athlete, his pace and aggressive pressing style are essential in AVB's high line defence, when he does play on the cover he has a terrific reading of the game and technically he is as good as any centre back around, the option of Luiz striding out of the back four with the ball is a handy one to have. He is almost a mix of Lucio and Carvalho, we should be delighted we have such a quality player at our club.