Global Revolution

[Badboy 1,526]

I work in healthcare insurance domain and i Agree the healthcare is bad out here but you are treated even if you do not have a health insurance only in this case you pay out of your own pocket. and that can hit your bank balance hard. I think the way it works is the govt takes care of the bill but you then have to pay the govt in installments or something.

I really like the UK healthcare. I ears that you guys don't have to pay a penny from your pocket when you are treated.

The way it works here is we pay taxes and we get healthcare and a host of other services too. Americans pay taxes and it goes towards star wars nuclear defense systems and Israel. America can blow the world up 25 times over, that is how much tax payers money has gone towards your defense and its wayyy over the top. Even if you cut your military budget by half you will still be by far and away the most powerful nation on earth. We might not be the perfect society here in England but we have a much better society then america were bearing arms is a right and you have a right to hate by your constitution. Our NHS is not being run perfectly at the moment not by a long stretch but i am still very proud of it.

[warnie_666 1,081]

He was also interested in trading for Euros, which fucks old uncle sam off.

Doesn't make sense. This would have only made the EURO stronger. Why would Sarkozy push for sanctions on Gaddafi?

And US sat on fence while European Nations bombarded Libya

[warnie_666 1,081]

The way it works here is we pay taxes and we get healthcare and a host of other services too. Americans pay taxes and it goes towards star wars nuclear defense systems and Israel.

And the bank bailouts. It is just so wrong the way tax payers money is being spent.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

And US sat on fence while European Nations bombarded Libya

What?! NATO include American forces. Hilary Clinton said the day before Gaddafi was killed "I hope he's captured or killed soon"

[warnie_666 1,081]

Let's see. Now that Euro-America have a their thirst for oil marginally filled, I'm sure they'll want more. And more Imperial colonies of course.

It is not only for oil that US invaded these nations. It is more to do with their strategic interests. Which includes trade, contracts, military base and ofcourse oil.

Its like "you scratch our back and we will scratch yours". Why do you think Saudi, kuwait, Bahrain, and other small countries floating on oil have not been invaded?

Every country does it. It is just that US does it on a larger scale.

[warnie_666 1,081]

What?! NATO include American forces. Hilary Clinton said the day before Gaddafi was killed "I hope he's captured or killed soon"

Yes. US did play a major role in forming NATO. But US wasn't directly involved initially. Initially Obama refused to intervene while European nations asked for sanctions on Libya and when the things kicked on they started bombarding Libya.

It looked like the European nations were more keen on bringing Gadaffi down than US. Which is wierd considering Gaddafi wanted to buy Euros in exchange for oil.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Yes. US did play a major role in forming NATO. But US wasn't directly involved initially. Initially Obama refused to intervene while European nations asked for sanctions on Libya and when the things kicked on they started bombarding Libya.

It looked like the European nations were more keen on bringing Gadaffi down than US. Which is wierd considering Gaddafi wanted to buy Euros in exchange for oil.

They may not have done the bombing, but they provided the majority of arms and money.

The UN does nothing.. Wait let me rephrase that; The West does nothing with America first giving their backing. It's not their first tango with Libya either/

[LDN Blue 7,903]

It is not only for oil that US invaded these nations. It is more to do with their strategic interests. Which includes trade, contracts, military base and ofcourse oil.

Its like "you scratch our back and we will scratch yours". Why do you think Saudi, kuwait, Bahrain, and other small countries floating on oil have not been invaded?

Every country does it. It is just that US does it on a larger scale.

Of course. That's why I use the term Euro-America. That's why they can't stand when a country nationalizes it's oil. Like Chavez in Venezula & Gadaffi in Libya.

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

Yes. US did play a major role in forming NATO. But US wasn't directly involved initially. Initially Obama refused to intervene while European nations asked for sanctions on Libya and when the things kicked on they started bombarding Libya.

It looked like the European nations were more keen on bringing Gadaffi down than US. Which is wierd considering Gaddafi wanted to buy Euros in exchange for oil.

The last thing the US administration needed was to be seen to getting involved in yet another invasion and Middle East war. The US public, well the ones with any brains, are sick of it.

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

Doesn't make sense. This would have only made the EURO stronger. Why would Sarkozy push for sanctions on Gaddafi?

And US sat on fence while European Nations bombarded Libya

The US and Britain dont want the Euro stronger. Libya had doena 1 .3 bn deal in Euros with Eastern European states.

The US bombed Libya by proxy - there was a US Africa Command, set up in 2007 to secure the continent’s lucrative natural resources from Africa’s impoverished people and the rapidly spreading influence of China. Libya, along with Angola and Nigeria, is China’s principal source of oil. Now Libya wont be.

Obama is the first black president to invade and rape his homeland of Africa.

[Badboy 1,526]

And the bank bailouts. It is just so wrong the way tax payers money is being spent.

The Republicans in America keep fighting for tax cuts for the rich when trickle down economics has failed over and over again. Reagan cut taxes in the 80's but he did not cut spending which lead to america doubling its debt by the time he left. The whole notion that the sun shined out of Reagan's bum whole is nonsense. The American middle class was built in the 1960's when the tax rates were astronomically high, when you cut taxes you suffer from a lack of revenue which leads to economic downturns. The Bush tax cuts were so wrong that economists worldwide were shocked by what he was doing.

[dave30 728]

i dont know why those St Paul's protesters lot have chosen to camp outside a church but at least they have shed some light on things. 14 quid to get in its time the church looked at downsizing and placing some cathedrals into the hands of English heritage in my own opinion .

[LDN Blue 7,903]

i dont know why those St Paul's protesters lot have chosen to camp outside a church but at least they have shed some light on things. 14 quid to get in its time the church looked at downsizing and placing some cathedrals into the hands of English heritage in my own opinion .

Haha yeah, it's really strange.

What do you mean by the latter?

[Fulham Broadway 16,862]

i dont know why those St Paul's protesters lot have chosen to camp outside a church but at least they have shed some light on things. 14 quid to get in its time the church looked at downsizing and placing some cathedrals into the hands of English heritage in my own opinion .

They werent allowed anywhere the stock exchange -that area by St Pauls was the nearest...

£14 quid to get in, £12 99 CDs or £180 for a pair of churchy cuff links. Jesus would have a fit if he were around.

[dave30 728]

Haha yeah, it's really strange.

What do you mean by the latter?

i mean the cost of running St Paul's is astronomical and such a grand building is not necessarily and probably ineffective to preach the word of God. Im all for the keeping of tradition but instead of charging people ridiculous fees on the pretense of Christianity they should probably recieve some funding from trusts such as national heritage as they are also tourist attractions . does anyone know if they charge regular worshipers ? im guessing / hoping they dont charge £14 for a Sunday service .

[dave30 728]

They werent allowed anywhere the stock exchange -that area by St Pauls was the nearest...

Yer but they could surely find like a square or something ? that would be convenient for others .

[LDN Blue 7,903]

i mean the cost of running St Paul's is astronomical and such a grand building is not necessarily and probably ineffective to preach the word of God. Im all for the keeping of tradition but instead of charging people ridiculous fees on the pretense of Christianity they should probably recieve some funding from trusts such as national heritage as they are also tourist attractions . does anyone know if they charge regular worshipers ? im guessing / hoping they dont charge £14 for a Sunday service .

Oh, I understand now.

You're definitely right, isn't it a landmark or something anyway, so shouldn't they be entitled to funding?

[dave30 728]

Oh, I understand now.

You're definitely right, isn't it a landmark or something anyway, so shouldn't they be entitled to funding?

Yes i think they should but apparently they have to pay it 100% out of their own pocket that's their excuse for charging so much anyway .