lentherussian 86 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 for everyone who likes analysing football or reading others opinions take a look at zonalmarking.com sure some of you might have already but his 10 points on man utd game is very good IMO http://www.zonalmarking.net/2011/09/18/ten-points-on-manchester-united-3-1-chelsea/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Man United = 21 goals from 92 shots = 23% conversionMan City = 17 goals from 114 shots = 15%Chelsea = 8 goals from 102 shots = 8% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Man United = 21 goals from 92 shots = 23% conversionMan City = 17 goals from 114 shots = 15%Chelsea = 8 goals from 102 shots = 8%are you blaming Kalou for those stats ,,you usually do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I expected real analysis when I read the title, Blionheart is great at that.My 2 cents -1. I was very impressed with the pressing. We gave them next to no time or space on the ball. No surprise then that they couldn't play their high tempo passing game. If you see the match again, you'll find Rooney has to drop deeper and deeper as the game goes on because they couldn't get him on the ball. But there are a few individual culprits here. Sturridge and Bosingwa didn't close down well enough on the right and it allowed them to shift flanks with long diagonal balls. While most of the blame for their second goal has fallen on Mata, Meireles and Terry were the bigger culprits imo. They should have been breathing down his neck but allowed him to continue his run and Nani took his chance.2. I wonder if it would be beneficial for Sturridge and Mata to exchange flanks. Once Sturridge picks up the ball on the right you know he's going to cut inside, makes it predictable. Mata on the other hand can drift inside or beat his man on the outside.3. I picked up on this pre-match and it was validated yesterday - Ivan shouldn't be a CB. He is reckless and has a tendency of going to ground to easily. Him and JT will be exposed by pace all day long so makes no sense to pair two identical defenders against the paciest forwards in the league.4. Meireles yesterday had too much of his game taken away from him in the first half. He did alright in that position against Sunderland but he needs to be played in a slightly advanced role if we're to get the best out of his attacking talents. Ramires for all his industry and enthusiasm is shocking on the ball. Mikel is more suited for that DM role but he was little more than a slow paperweight after he came on yesterday, doing his cause no good. Yoiu could see Meireles was immediately more threatening and influential as soon as we switched to 4-2-3-1 at HT.5. If there's one criticism that I can think of against AVB yesterday, it would have to be the Lukaku substitution. I expected us to go 2 upfront but Lukaku was stationed on the right wing and he looked awful.6. We did our best to get Torres firing yesterday. Balls played between their centre-half and full-back which Nando used his pace to latch onto (twice - for the Ramires chance and the goal). Nice to see.you are right about mikel when he came in his performance was too slow, he did add spice to the game. But for the rest of the team their mistake is what they should work on cos long way ahead of the team. Good Game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,459 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Man United = 21 goals from 92 shots = 23% conversionMan City = 17 goals from 114 shots = 15%Chelsea = 8 goals from 102 shots = 8%We aren't making the most of our chances..that's a trend that we've picked up since last season actually... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 We aren't making the most of our chances..that's a trend that we've picked up since last season actually...last year Drogba had the worst completion record of any of the recognised top strikers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I expected real analysis when I read the title, Blionheart is great at that.My 2 cents -1. I was very impressed with the pressing. We gave them next to no time or space on the ball. No surprise then that they couldn't play their high tempo passing game. If you see the match again, you'll find Rooney has to drop deeper and deeper as the game goes on because they couldn't get him on the ball. But there are a few individual culprits here. Sturridge and Bosingwa didn't close down well enough on the right and it allowed them to shift flanks with long diagonal balls. While most of the blame for their second goal has fallen on Mata, Meireles and Terry were the bigger culprits imo. They should have been breathing down his neck but allowed him to continue his run and Nani took his chance.2. I wonder if it would be beneficial for Sturridge and Mata to exchange flanks. Once Sturridge picks up the ball on the right you know he's going to cut inside, makes it predictable. Mata on the other hand can drift inside or beat his man on the outside.3. I picked up on this pre-match and it was validated yesterday - Ivan shouldn't be a CB. He is reckless and has a tendency of going to ground to easily. Him and JT will be exposed by pace all day long so makes no sense to pair two identical defenders against the paciest forwards in the league.4. Meireles yesterday had too much of his game taken away from him in the first half. He did alright in that position against Sunderland but he needs to be played in a slightly advanced role if we're to get the best out of his attacking talents. Ramires for all his industry and enthusiasm is shocking on the ball. Mikel is more suited for that DM role but he was little more than a slow paperweight after he came on yesterday, doing his cause no good. Yoiu could see Meireles was immediately more threatening and influential as soon as we switched to 4-2-3-1 at HT.5. If there's one criticism that I can think of against AVB yesterday, it would have to be the Lukaku substitution. I expected us to go 2 upfront but Lukaku was stationed on the right wing and he looked awful.6. We did our best to get Torres firing yesterday. Balls played between their centre-half and full-back which Nando used his pace to latch onto (twice - for the Ramires chance and the goal). Nice to see.you are right about mikel when he came in his performance was too slow, he did not add spice to the game. But for the rest of the team their mistake is what they should work on cos long way ahead of the team. Good Game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostas 1,468 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) 3 of them are described as defensive midfielders as they contribute way more defensively than offensively ( Mikel - Essien - Ramires) any midfield we use should only contain one of those if we are to play attacking football .That's a strange definition of defensive midfielders. Of those 3 I'd rather call Mikel a holding midfielder while Essien and Ramires are Box-to-Box midfielders, who don't have to be always defensive. This may sound like semantics but we should be more precise when we're arguing their uses. Edited September 21, 2011 by Kostas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laeth 527 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I'd like to see us go to a 4-2-3-1; I think it suits the type of football AVB likes to play. Something like:------------------Cech---------------------Bosingwa --- Luiz --- Terry --- Cole------- Merieles -- Romeu/Mikel------------------------------------------------------Sturridge ----- Mata ------------ Anelka-----------------Torres---------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodojojo 510 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Here's another good one.http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2011/9/21/2437050/match-analysis-chelsea-1-3-manchester-united-tactics-stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLionheart 516 Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 That's a strange definition of defensive midfielders. Of those 3 I'd rather call Mikel a holding midfielder while Essien and Ramires are Box-to-Box midfielders, who don't have to be always defensive. This may sound like semantics but we should be more precise when we're arguing their uses.Regardless what they should be called , having any 2 out of ( mikel - essien - ramires) in the same midfield will block the fluency and quick passing game we are looking for . we should use this kind of midfield aiming for a more defensive , counter attacking strategy but not possession game . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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