Barbara

well, I doubt any Chelsea fan could possibly be having a good day today after that, unless they met the love of their lives (or had a great time with the already found ones), won the lottery, or something to that effect The hug was carefully calculated (I normally say kiss and make up). Anyway, all forgiven and forgotten, and I guess I was defensive... so both wrong, both right. As I said I'm answering your questions in the previous post. Colors show which part I'm answering. Oscar played only 34 minutes more than Mata. Oscar had 18 passes in those 25 minutes (55-80), 12 of which completed. Compared to when Mata was in the pitch, Oscar had only twice (37) from 0-60 minutes, meaning he took more responsibility when Mata was subbed off. Here are the passes from both so you can compare the area and what he was attempting to do But if you compare where Oscar was passing to Hazard and Mata, you'll realize he was more in the third final than Mata was, Hazard the most of them. Oscar: 45,37% (actions, not only passes) Mata: 34,33% (actions, not only passes) Hazard: 56,80% (actions, not only passes) In addition of showing his passes, I'm showing his take-ons (which should include his dribbles) And finally the heat maps, showing among other things Mata was too deep. We should have played him closer to Hazard (who was most time in the third final) and Torres. (I'm not blaming Mata, he was going back in an attempt to fill the gap our terrible pivot left) I'm not going to screencap all of it for you (sort of lazy, (also have to make you work a bit for it lol, sort of a bad day too) Here's the link: http://epl.squawka.com/newcastle-united-vs-chelsea/02-11-2013/english-barclays-premier-league/matches edit: also the performance score shows you that Oscar was one of the 'best' out there, with 21... and that's different than whoscored ridic rating. This is summing up all scores in all actions they take - something similar to what I do in my scouting except they subtract the negative from the positive.

no, I'm going out of my way because you said I made it personal when I didn't, so if you said I made, I better make. I don't mind you calling me a fangirl, as the post said, but I didn't make it personal, Nour. I just disagreed with you. I did say in the live match thread and in my twitter account - both which you can check, that Oscar should be subbed off for Willian, Nour. This isn't me defending him blindly. This is me defending him from being as bad as you're making him out to be. I did agree it was his worst match of the season, I did say maybe if Mata had stayed and Oscar had been subbed, Mata could have produced the same Oscar did. I just disagreed about how bad he was... and then I was upset you said I made this personal, when I don't feel I did - even if I ignored (or didn't mind) you calling me a fangirl because I know you did this in a 'good' way, if such thing exist, meaning we're close enough or me to know you aren't really offending me, just interpreting an action. Let's hug and forget this (but I'm answering your questions in the previous post - in a PM, unless you want the answer to be in the thread)

Which I added to my post when I answered to your second post. I'm still not compelled to the scout for the match to prove you otherwise, but we should maybe re-watch it? My eyes told me Oscar wasn't as bad as you're saying, Mata and Hazard were as bad as him, without having even 10 minutes of actually doing something... It's no fanboyism, but I did say I don't mind taking the label. So if you want to think this is me fangirling, I don't mind. I know it isn't. Where did I take it personally though if I didn't say a word about you but you called me a fangirl? Having trouble defining personal, Nour? I answered to your post, but I never said a word about you to make it personal, just that I disagreed with you and so did the stats. But this last comment pissed me off, and I'm like Nadal pissed off, so yeah, I'll do an entire scout to prove you wrong. Wait for it in a couple of days. And now I'm making it personal, still without offending you, Mr. Admin.

hmmm, stats disagree with you on Oscar, Nour... Hazard created us exactly 0 chances of goal as well as Willian, on open play Mata created us nothing as well, as the only chance created Squawka gave him was a pass close to the the half-way line that someone decided to shoot 100 yards from the goal (but he has the corner to Terry header) while Oscar created two clear chances according to them (one for Willian and other for Eto'o, although I thought he created one for Schurrle too, but I must be mistaken). He also touched more the ball than Mata and Hazard with a better accuracy as well: Mata (35/47, 74%); Hazard (39/52, 75%), Oscar (51/66, 77%). So if you had blamed the all three I would be quiet, because except for some fancy pass exchange between Hazard and Mata (that led to nothing), all three did nothing in the entire first half. So why exactly are you blaming the better AM we had in the match and exempting the other two of it, as if Oscar had been the worst when his stats (and actual play) prove he was the best out of them? The best chances we had were created by him - although Hazard did miss a goal. I don't mind being labelled as the brazilian chick who defends Oscar, I don't mind at all, but someone has to do it when he's being given a bigger responsibility than he had. He was equally responsible in the first, although the only of our three AM to press efficiently and have the most tackles in the match (5). I blame the system and Mourinho more than I blame the players, but whoever sees some of the posts here would think Oscar was the worst player in the pitch when stats and given credit where its due show he was one of the less horrible... The stats just proved both of your statements wrong. Oscar touched more the ball than any of our AM and he has the best work-rate. I might even do a scout in a match I really don't want to show this is unfair. But I do agree was his worst. But the most important thing honestly isn't Oscar or Mata. We played shit, Mourinho was really bad in the initial formation and this is a match to be forgotten.

Yeah, I do blame the loss on him. But I don't know which second half people watched if Oscar got us three assists for players that either missed the target or were blocked by the defense... that's why he played 90 minutes... don't care what people will say as I'm the one defending him. Mourinho got it wrong, but his subs weren't bad, the most critical of them shouldn't have needed to happen, as Willian, for example (or at least Schurrle), should have started. But we played better after the subs, so I can't understand why are you blaming the subs?!?!?! The problem is when the subs came, Newcastle was confident and we were under pressure and lost. So yeah, he is to blame, but I can't agree with none of your reasons, Choulo I think we could have had the same result (improvement) had Oscar been dropped and Mata stayed as the #10... but who knows? And I do hope he (Mou) learns from today

At least Mourinho agrees with us the problem was the frigging first time and will be convinced mazacar is a huge no. I don't care if he plays Oscar or Mata, as long as he doesn't play both. The problem isn't having Hazard with them, is having Oscar and Mata. So either play one of them, or even none if he must, but not the two. Mata wasn't bad and Oscar was the guy who created 3 out of our 4 chances of goal in the second half, crossing to Eto'o, Willian and Hazard. But if we have wingers like Schürrle, or players like Willian - that while not a winger himself, plays much better in the wing, why play Mata or Oscar? Our pressing - which has been the key to our two last wins (not much a factor against Schalke, but still it was good then) was rubbish today. I can't for the life of me blame Torres as I've seen some blaming and even implying he played like his 'old' Chelsea form. He tried, but the problem was in the guys playing behind him. Oscar didn't participate enough in the first, Mata and Hazard seemed to have wanted to pass the ball in a Barcelona fashion to get inside the net, it seems, but didn't give us anything but a couple of nice exchanges of passes. So how do we blame Torres when one AM doesn't do anything and the other two think they'll pass themselves into the net instead of going for the objective play? Lamps was terrible, Ramires was shy, Luiz was below par, Cole was what he's been this season for the most part - useless and slow, Ivanovic wasn't bad defending, but God help him attacking... and that's it. Willian should have started and he changed a bit the game when he came. Schurrle probably touched the ball once in addition to that header (at least I can't remember anything from him), and Eto'o while received service, was always well marked and had his shots blocked. We were better in the second, after we gave them and their supporters confidence to believe if they tried they could win (because they didn't even try in the first). So I don't care who Mourinho picks for Schalke between Oscar and Mata, just don't pick both.

it was our first half that built up their confidence... it's clear as daylight, but some will moan about about second half...

no, we just were pathetic in the first half where we could have won this. Then they came back, confident and we were lost. But if normally people don't see beyond flashy plays and results, I don't expect many to see the problem was the pathetic first half. The second was only a consequence of that. When a team, in their turf, come to play 4-4-2 with the two 4 lines in the back and they end the first half feeling like the other guys didn't threaten them for one second, they can grow more daring in the second. Which is exactly what happened. I still don't get how people can't see the basic things in a match of football, only the blatant.

at least we played Mazacar and fans were happy, right?

still ALL chances we had in the second half Oscar created them. But well... it doesn't count, does it?

I do hope that was the last time Mourinho ever played Mazacar! Yeah, I won't let it go how poor we are with them. Then Newcastle got confident, we changed, but well, shouldn't have started with it... Now we're desperate, lost and fucked. So, God help us to win this because the players are totally lost there now. WE do have good stats on scoring in the last 15 minutes... but Mazacar needs to go away and never come back

don't you know Chelsea wins three points with flashy plays? That's what we are here for! Still no shoot on goal, but hey, we're down 1-0 now, so it must be working perfectly, right?

this is so frigging last season!!!!!!!!!!!

you know what is it to have NOT ONE open play shot? Even Newcastle had two. We had none. So don't tell me this was good.

yeah, either move Oscar to the CAM or get Willian for him... either way whoever is playing in our RW should be dropped for a better winger and try to wide the play a bit. I don't care if he moves Oscar to CAM and drops Mata or drops Oscar. What I do know is that none of them should be playing RW. I just can't get around the idea of playing frigging Mazacar when we have quality players that are more wingers than Mata or Oscar.

for God's sake, Mou. Willian at HT for Oscar. No need to wait 15 minutes with this 1st half display. There's no fixing it with the players we have in the pitch.

also, Mata should have shot on goal, he was all by himself at the edge of the box, just frigging shoot! No need to pass to Hazard again when he's well marked inside the box. The partnership has been good, but equally inefficient if we're yet to have a frigging shot on the goal! But they're the best we had in this completely frustrating first half.

good to know I'm not the only one to think Mazacar is so last season

Mazacar was probably the biggest no for this game imo... Well, Mourinho knows best

http://espnfc.com/en/gamecast/367391/gamecast.html?soccernet=true&cc=3888 in case you want a place with stats and commentary feed (live) I guess TalkChelsea twitter is also being fed live, will have to confirm with one of the staff members

the anxiety of waiting for a lineup. Life with Mou as a manager - never a dull day not complaining at all

What I want: Cech Iva - Terry - Luiz - Cole Rami - Lamps Willian - Oscar - Schurrle Torres What I'll get Cech Iva - Terry - Cahill - Cole Rami - Lamps Schurrle - Oscar - Hazard Torres

I moved my captain armband cos of you. If he scores, I'm coming to you in your dreams, Jay. I'll go disguised as the girl from The Grudge

what you guys think are Suarez' chances of scoring?

I'm not going to discuss this again, but you're mixing him and willian. willian was called in 2011. diego costa was called earlier this year...