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Ramires technical skills are terrible. Yet, he is going to be the player mourinho needs when he parks the bus next round and to mark their best player.If our manager wasn't jose mourinho I would agree witb you.

When we play a good squad, you will realized the significance of ramires.

I think we are going to draw either PSG or Dortmund. I have a feeling atletico is going to get bayern next round. Real vs dortmund Barca vs olympiacos

I bet we draw PSG... Our CL campaign has been way to easy so far.

Fifa also got paid to have the world cup at Qatar.

I disagree. Any matchup if we do advance will provide to be difficult and we have a much better shot at winning the league than Champs League. Only team I am fearful of is City.

I agree. However, if Mourinho barely plays either, what exactly can they contribute to Mourinho? Either Oscar/Willian need to start for Chelsea.

Good One.. And what has either done to warrant a start.

Yes, because Cole wasn't a huge reason why we won the champions league. Dave has work hard, but provides nothing going forward and the fact of the matter is that he get's wrong footed on a lot of possessions ( I dont't blame him since he is out of posiition). Great analysis Mr. Pro scout, please come up with another stupid fact.

Anyways, I think it is unfair to conclude ramires did it deliberately. Watching the replay in different angles, shows the play differently. Only person that will know if it was deliberate is Ramires.

And when Costa does that same in big games, what will you say than? You guys should of read the Liverpool forum when Suarez got suspended... they were throwing out stats on how we don't need him anymore, we are better without him, etc, etc. Guess all those brits are fickle minded and changed their views in a snap. Funny thing is no one is really talking about it.... Usually when our players do that, other message boards fill up with nonsense about our players, but for this incident, it's pretty quiet.

So, Ramos, Pepe and Khedira weren't those? Also, we should probably look at all the people that supported the diego costa transfer and see how hypocritical they are. Also, Jose didn't comment on both red cards to Willian and Ramires. Not that he believes it was a red card.

Jose needs fighters on his team. If Mata and KDB were fighters, they would still be at Chelsea FC. Their was never that much tension in el clasico especially to the Mourinho level. You wonder why this season, their is no tension in el clasico...

Pep, ramos and khedira all play reckless during that time. You think those three play physical and not reckless at times? El clasico was at the peak tension wise amongst teams of the same nationality. You wonder why? Guys like Ozil who was known to be a soft spoken person broke out. Mourinho doesnt want a team of pansies. If he did, Mata and KDB would be here still.

Mourinho wants his players to play hard. Khedira is known to make reckless challenges, Ramos is known to make reckless challenges and Pepe is known to make reckless challenges. Guess when? During Mourinho era. Ramos has never gotten a red card for Spain. Pepe been a good boy. Khedira been injured. Players epitomize their manager. Exactly why Mata and KDB both were sold.

Well, I guess you are a good barometer for patience when both of those players are in their first year in a new league. Moses what, best player in europa league? best player in preseason? You should probably go on the liverpool forum and tell them your view on Moses.

Mourinho told Ramos/ Casillas to get yellow cards so they would miss the next game in the Champs League.

Ramires, I know is reckless many times. However, this one is kind of in the grey area for me/thinking he was able to jump it. I really don't think it was intentional (with ramires you kind of know the fouls that are intentional). It's not like the tackle came close his initial dribble, he was trying to dribble to advance the ball. We lose ball, we lose possession we lose game. Granted, looking at it now, we probably lost more with his suspension, however, if you look at it from the side angle, you would understand. Edit. Also, he could of mistime his run and continue running not realizing the leg was there. Sorry guys, but in sports when everything is going full motion, you don't have time to think "O maybe I might stomp his leg."

Madrid fans wanted Di Maria gone all these years... Willian is talented as well, he raped us last season on an eastern European team.

I agree with the sentiment that he is reckless in his play, but that one particular this game, I don't think was as bad as you guys are stating it.

I think Oscar fall has a lot to do with hazard's rise than fatigue.

Players know how to take falls, but these small falls are reasons why players get injured long term and in the future. Ramires is going full speed and some guy is diving at his legs, yes lets potentially injured yourself because of that.

You somehow broad jump over his legs and potentially hurt your hamstrings/achilles because a guy slide tackles you from the side?

Matic died out at the end of the game (besides that fantastic game).. Stamina might be an issue for him. Would be nice if Jose actually rotated his players so they don't burn out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DZy1XMs75M Looking at it, what did you expect ramires to do? jump over the legs or fall face first? I don't think it was deliberate, it might be to break his fall.