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Hope so, unless we start playing with a high line, I can't see why he won't be able to feature in the side. +With the way it's going with the HG quota, we might need him. Unlike Lamps, he won't leave a bad taste in our mouths, always got the impression he has the fans and his legacy in the back of his mind.

The only scare we've had with Terry was when him and his agent used certain tactics to get him a bumper contract. He was 28 years old then, he could have given 7 years to another club, 'arguably' enough to be a legend elsewhere. He's got too much invested in being Chelsea 'through and through' now, both on a personal and economic level to throw it all away.

“Where I would go after that it certainly wouldn’t be in England. I couldn’t do that to Chelsea or the fans. That’s just not me." - John Terry Classy, proper chels.

Defense is still their achilles heel, remains to be seen how Mangala adapts, but still.. Out of that backline 'including keepers', only Kompany would break into our side.

Preach!, and kudos on the username.

Ah.. I see, so TOPTB posting childish gifs alluding to the notion that I'm going 'full retard', isn't "wrong".. By doing that, he changed the tone of the thread, 'before that too'. I rarely go out to attack someone, I've been called all types of things in this thread and resisted the temptation to respond in the same manner.

The news broke a while ago now, there are no knee jerks going on here. My posts haven't been erratic, they've been well reasoned. When bad things happen in relation with a club, certain fans will delude themselfs into taking the 'happy road'. It stems from not having control, Arsenal fans have done the same to a lesser degree.

'Knee Jerk' isn't really appropriate either, since I've had PLENTY of time to consider (and carefully articulate) why Lampard is in the wrong here.

TOPTB is turning TC into Fox news, what else do you wanna take out of context?, love how mad I'm making him, bitter cunt.

He capitalised off / and increased his stature in the market by positioning himself alongside JT as 'proper Chels®' and marketed himself as that to the fans. He's been found out as a fraud, this guy doesn't have the club (bigger than the board) in mind like Drogba & Ash, he has no affinity with Cheslea. We turned a blind eye when he sabotaged AVB, but this is the final straw.

Wouldn't be surprised if Frank follows Patrick Vieira and becomes a part of the furniture for the City family, he's going to be contracted to them either way. Vierira isn't 'Football Development Executive' anymore, he's now 'Elite Development squad exec', so there's a position available for Frank; and we all know he'll go where the money is.

Nice article by Jake Cohen covering this system.. http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/8/4/5964691/romelu-lukaku-everton-chelsea-finances Part of the reason costs are so low is because for Chelsea's best prospects, not only are their wages covered by the loanee club, but there's a loan fee on top of that. For example, the combined FFP cost of Thibaut Courtois, Romelu Lukaku, and Victor Moses was £2.5m last season (or less than two months worth of Fernando Torres).

No reason why he can't do what Beckham (when he trained with Arsenal 'unofficially') did and call in a favour with uncle Harry. A few sub appearances here and there for our direct rivals just isn't substantial enough to be justified.

He doesn't live with his family, do you think Frank's ex is bringing herself and the kids to New York? The point is, and I'm not sure why you're taking us go around in circles here, is that ALL of this was 'his' choice, it wasn't a catch 22. What the fuck did Frank think was going to happen when he signed for a City owned club that doesn't exist yet.

Part of Frank Lampard's 'brand' and why he's the figure he is, is because he's marketed himself as 'proper chels' like John Terry. The same reason Gerrard's face is all over the Liverpool pencil cases and bed spreads. This guy is a fraud, not just a judas.. he hasn't handled himself with class or shown respect to the fans since leaving. He told people he would never join another PL club, he stressed how difficult it would be. Whatever beef he has with the current board is not as far as Chelsea stretches, he should have thought about his legacy and the fans.

He's made a substantial amount not just as a football player, but as a Chelsea ambassador on par with John Terry. This is not a wage slave/real world employee situation, this is a special case; in which the current board of Chelsea are not the bottom line. Nobody forced him to sign for a City affiliated club in the first place, this loan conundrum has been created by Frank, he's not a victim of it.

Just when I thought it couldn't get worse.. "He told me in the first week in July that he would not go to any other Premier League club"

Or not sign for the City family in the first place. This is a guy who supposedly has a high I.Q, and people suppose he was naive enough to think this wasn't inevitable.

When you become a cult icon and symbol of the club.. that transcends what you've done during a playing career. Football is about tribalism, Lampard isn't just a former employee like Salomon Kalou.. he's Chelsea personified. That 'responsibility' you are questioning is dealing with the fact you're an ambassador of the club. It's the relationship you have with the fans, saying what he said in 2013 demonstrates a lack of class and respect. Signing for the family of our direct rivals in the first place, goes to show this guy has no affinity with Chelsea. Bringing up the 9/11 stunt and the AVB sabotage was about context in relation to this, not selective memory.

Everton & Liverpool are clubs we can afford to sell to, that just leaves United.. We're yet to see how Mata will fit into van Gaal's plans as the season progresses. When we sold him there wasn't a real 'need' on United's part, not an area they needed to strengthen with a player that has his limitations. Mourinho had no plans for him, and United were the ONLY club interested. I think we can safely say we'd never sell Hazard domestically.

^ Lampard advocated the mind games the minute he signed the contract. Who do you blame, the guy who pushed the button or the guy who manufactured the button?

Mourinho wanted to in regards to Mata & Lukaku, so that's enough of a reason.

A Selling club in football terms is a club that has it's players 'taken' from them, like Southampton or Atletico Madrid. Hate to patronise you, but we really shouldn't be seeing the club referred to as such.

Doesn't really change anything mate, in fact.. if anything it makes it worse. Especially since he could have trained and ran around cones anywhere. Beckham trained with Arsenal to stay fit for LA, Lamps could have done that with uncle Harry at QPR 'unofficially'. And then of course, 'the crux of the issue' is that he shouldn't have signed for a City affiliated club in the first place.