Stingray

The debate wasn't about fitness levels. Your point was about 'fitting in the system'. Preseason illustratie he did fit in imo.

I could have trolled you and asked to write out all the prophecies like you once did with me in the Israel/palestine debate. I decided to be the better man. So no, thank you. Prophecies are hit and miss, like fortune telling. Because of our innate confirmation bias, we grasp on those that turn out true(mostly highly interpreteren and debatable). However, it is pure chance. On the roots of Christianity: history of religion. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism , i cant be bugged to translate my research into english right now so this is just a introductory source. It didnt just magically start at the birth of Jesus. There is even a LOT of debate on who the historical Jesus actually was. All the sources of his life date from decades after his death. What does rigorous historical research teach us? 1) there is not one strictly historical source on Jesus. None. Secondary sources barely mention him. Flavius Josephus mentions Jacobus "the brother of Jezus", but no further reference. Philo van Alexandrië, a contemporary of Jezus who knew Palestina goed well, doesn't mention him. If he existed, which i can believe, he wasn't well known. 2) We have writings of Christian authors, but none of them knew Jesus himself. The oldest sources are the original letters Paulus (Paul) wrote between 50-60. After that the evangelies(i dont know the english word tbh) but they are written at least 40 years after Jesus died. The oldest (Marcus or Marc) is the shortest and spawned both Mattheus and Johannes ( i guess John in English). However those two are highly contradictory about the childhood of Jesus. All of them refer more to the mythical Jesus, which in light of Judaism, sounds more like an attempt to seperate from Judaism as a cult. Very succesfull btw, but is it true? There isn't a single shred of evidence in ANY source. Weird for the son of God isn't it? Now, i respect your beliefs. But that is just what they are, beliefs. No more. You have no claim whatsoever on truth. None. Just beliefs.

Yeah i feel the same sometimes. All the fun and jokes have been sucked out of the forum by some, it seems. To use of my favorite artists:

You clearly didnt watch the preseason games.

Goddamned, not Diego again ........ I hope he takes a GOOD time off to get it all healed.

Hey faggot, you need to stay!

No you tell me about the 50 prophecies that came out. The burden of proof is yours, not mine. Also, the roots of Christianity is much, much older. Check Zoroastrism for example

Bollocks, yours is creatively inferior to mine, so I win! http://www.venganza.org

Lol. Take Islam (and i can also go into non monotheistic prophecies if you want, eg Mazdeism which predates Christianity and might even be its origin): http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/347/ Cheers mate

Well, you call it profecy ... Disregarding it is a cultural belief. How many religious stories are there in the world. If there are more than 2500 deities in the world, how is yours special? What the others? Shouldn't there be a way of discerning what can be true or not? I can only reply quoting Ricky Gervais about that line of deductional reasoning: 'It annoys me that the burden of proof is on us. It should be: 'You came up with the idea. Why do you believe it?' I could tell you I've got superpowers. But I can't go up to people saying 'Prove I can't fly.' They'd go: 'What do you mean 'Prove you can't fly'? Prove you can!"

No! We only know he thinks he'll never play here with Mou in charge. As I said, that knife cuts both ways. Kdb's way and Mou's way. The correlation between those two means causality can go both ways. It doesn't mean 'THE kid is a loser'. That is an awesome logical fallacy tbh. It depends on his frame of reference when he says this. It could very well be he is actually a great kid/talent and he thinks Mou will never give him a place in the team after his past experiences. In how far Mou actually did the opposite and actually tried him out, is a different discussion. All we know is snippets that got out in the press, but they are highly multi-interpretable. To say the least.

People just ignore posts and post their own BS. It makes the forum quite tiresome after years ......

Congrats on dogma 101.

If he said he will probably not play in CFC while José is here, it can mean two things - we tend to read it biased! 1. I dont want to be here while José is at CFC 2. I will never be asked there/josé doesnt want me there. Nowhere in his talk he says he doesnt want to play in a José team anymore. But hey, observation versus interptetation. [emoji6]

It begs a good question and can be addressed in a civilized way. Lionsden, why do you support Chelsea? Let the guy make his case, thats my vote.

If ive seen enough, hazard always was a club player, he is here to stay. Legend it is [emoji16]

Get in!!!!!

I just smashed my keyboard. Goddamn

Ugh .... Feels unreal tbh ....

Ok, belgian championship game in my back yard. No fucks are given, the only blues are the Chels [emoji41][emoji7]

ARE YOU SURE???????? [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Virgin ..... Abstinence ..... Yup.

There is also the fact you make us sound like a selling, plastic club without a heart. This isn't stratego or risk. It is fucking football with real fucking people. You would really just dispose of our best player for a new toy? How do you think that would change the atmosphere in the dressing room. What would it do for our image and our fans. Also, he is our creative spark, what would be the result of losing that? Can Reus fill that gap? You just dont have a helicopter view. You see chess pieces that can be moved but fail to comprehend the game. Really, really autistic post. Reus can come - sure, he is class - but not when you sell your star in the process because it even out the financial books. Dude .....

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Sorry guys, KDB is class - he did it every time he got a stage. Just because he didnt work in blue, doesnt disguise his stats. Also, when you see him play, he is one of those guys that really puts tempo to the game. Id take the 70-whatever passing rate when so much higher passers stay horizontal and sterile.. Especially when its so effective for a team result! KDB kinda delivers.