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Let's not believe the lazy journos I think if Mou was gonna be gone - it would have happened already. Unless the club are waiting to see what the FA say. If Mou gets a stadium ban - I could well see a case for breach of contract, as he is not able to fulfil his managerial obligations - through disciplinary action It's like you work for a company, but get put on curfew - you can't go to work - so your employer terminates your employment for breach. You are not entitled to any recompense - except for any work already accrued. The same situation could (and probably should) be applied to Mourinho. Big call though for the club. Would be better if Mou just resigns. Such a shit situation all round - we have turned into the McLaren of Football

Dude - don't be hard on yourself. It's an admirable quality to remain loyal. I did for ages until something snapped inside me and I could no longer take it. It seems you are still a while away from this. What you describe is what I believe 99.99% of people feel when describing Mourinho - and there's some of us who believe it's time to change and others that hope Mou will change. I just hate to see somebody who should be held in the highest esteem by Chelsea and fans, slowly falling apart in public. Just how much further is he going to sink and the club with it? I said it a while ago - maybe a sabbatical would help him right now to regain focus - maybe a lengthy ban by the FA might just be that avenue.

I really don't think the club will let him go this side of December. Conceivably - they could give him one more window in the transfer market and then judge him at the end of the season. I guess the tricky part is who do you replace him with? I know the players have been shit - but I think he has caused that with his tantrums - players know one bad game and they are beaten up in the press and possibly dropped and sold. It's not a great environment and for all of Ferries faults - I don't remember a team ever under-performing like this. He seemed to be able to strike the right balance between putting the refs under pressure and not being charged, being a disciplinarian and not de-motivating the players I honestly believe Jose's demeanour and attitude is causing most of the problems. Maybe the Eva thing was more divisive in the club than first thought? Perhaps the players lost respect for Jose - it's hard to repair respect - much like trust. If the players are using player power to get rid of him - that is very poor from them!

Honestly - I don't think anybody can be happy at our position If I felt that people were deliberately happy that we were failing - I would call them out But these are posters I have read over 4 years + We have had good times and bad times but I have never questioned their loyalty to the team. I wish with every molecule - that Jose would do the simple things right and change his approach - but he is not and does not look like doing it - he's getting worse. That is the reason I don't want him here. Not because I hate Chelsea - but because I'm sick and tired of hearing about him! Chelsea is bigger than him. If he's not 'man' enough or doesn't have big enough 'balls' to change - then he's not the person I thought he was. It's like splitting up with your girlfriend - you suddenly realise that in the cold hard light of day - they are actually fucking idiots.

Mate - so what you are saying is Jose needs to manage like a different manager Isn't that what most of us are saying? But guess what he will not. That's the simple answer Hence me saying if Jose won't change - then he needs to be changed As soon as Zouma was announced as RB I knew today would be a clusterfuck and I decided to spend my well earned weekend doing something to make me happy - that used to be watching Chelsea on any stream I could get, but not today. I'm sick and tired of the ridiculous tactics and failure to address glaring issues that even Stevie fucking Wonder can see...

OK - you are entitled to your opinion But I would prefer our manager to not keeping antagonising the FA and Referee's - it will only end one way - badly for us. I don't see how that argument is rubbish and will be born out once we understand his punishment from today... As for other fans hating us - I have no problem with that, it's normally borne out of jealousy! And as for what has Jose done for us - he's done a great deal - I'm not saying he hasn't - I just don't think he's cut out for long Managerial positions. There's nothing wrong with that. I just need him and the club to realise this and move on. Jose is and will always be remembered as great manager for Chelsea - but he's no Alex Ferguson - he just doesn't have the long term vision

I know - and you know what - I DO AGREE WITH HIM on most of it - but I know you can't say anything without it having consequences. I know that's not ideal - but it's the world we live in and we have to adapt Sad times indeed.

Jose has made us the club to hate What do you expect - calling Referee's weak and naive week in week out? Of course they are going to love sticking it to him, the same with the FA Jose has nobody to blame but himself - sometimes it's best to keep quiet about this stuff - but he didn't and made it front page news - now we are reaping the fallout from this. You are never going to beat the system - yes it's corrupt (I honestly believe it is) but pointing it out won't change it - shutting up and getting on with it is the only option... Sad times indeed

This You reap what you sow...

Jesus - when will people learn Zouma should not have started at RB I didn't watch the match - I was busy modding my van! But I knew what to expect. Jose has to go - it's that simple Someone else said poor management makes players poor - I 100% agree with this. Time for a change

Zouma should not be at RB for this We should definitely get Baba playing - he needs to improve so why wait, let him get started now. I really don't know how to call this - my heart (as always) says a win, my head thinks a draw is probably the outcome 2-2 or something like that.

History is always flawed Accounts of great battles are only ever written by the victors I don't see the point in debating previous players - to me that's a pointless exercise. I just want our focus on improving our current situation and team

To be fair - even I could give an opposition team talk. Attack down the left, mark Fabregas and Costa - overlap the wingers and exploit the fact that we sit deep. Ping in low balls to the box, wait for us to try and counter instead of cleaning the immediate danger and press - will open up a potential GSO (goal scoring opportunity) Teams know they can overload the midfield against us with their fullbacks pushing up. It's like Chess - the only way to stop this is by us pushing our fullbacks forward - but it hasn't happened for a while

What - Lionsden had been banned? Since when? I sincerely hope this is not the case - I like to see well reasoned critical posts, it forces you to ask yourself difficult questions and challenges your whole belief structure. Debate is good - the Greeks knew that. A society/forum without debate is like a river without water...

We have been shit since January - honestly our performances are on a downward spiral. I won't keep repeating myself - but we are hopeless - we can either defend and get a draw or attack and lose! We create fuck all from open play and rarely trouble the opposition Our full backs never overlap and when they do its a waste of time I agree though - who do you bring in? I just don't know anymore but our team is a shadow of the one that started the 14/15 season so brightly. Since the Spuds game we have regressed to amateur football it seems. I agree that 'winning' is the ultimate yardstick - and I can tolerate for the most part the dull, boring play - but now we are not winning its no longer acceptable to me, as a fan. People can say Jose has Chelsea in his DNA all they like - but if he gets sacked - he will still take the money, please let's not delude ourselves with 'loyalty' this and that - it does not exist in football. MOURINHO is an employee and he will act like one when he leaves and the next club he goes to will be in his DNA rinse and repeat.

Read my post above yours He didn't praise the players just straight out with Ref blah blah I agree with Hoddle and Manu - it's just ridiculous Yeah good point - night

Wow good lad Glenn Huddle Mourinho gets on my nerves - had a really good team performance (debatable) and the first thing he says 'referees'. Even Manu supporting that - saying Jose should have praised the players I agree with them to be fair - moaning is easy - man up and say OK lads better, but we can do more

Lmao post of the day!!! "11 tarts feeling sorry for themselves" Legend

Fuck off Moanhino - we all know you will harp on about the penalty Just shut up and say we will improve next game

Yes but that's the problem! We can either defend with 10 players and score fuck all or try to attack and then lose because we can't defend The team is a shambles tactically It's too depressing to keep thinking about this - so going to bed lol

Cesc - first half got took out in the box

I also thought Begovic MOTM for me - called on a couple of times and did well He had nothing to do for the rest of the game as Kiev were just so shit

Underwhelming We were unlucky - good save for Hazards shot, Willian unlucky and Matic should have buried it Clear penalty denied as well. But - our attacking play is just shit - absolutely no width and no idea. Static performances all over the pitch - it's embarrassing - we only ever play back and then lump the ball forward. I'm sorry but these are Tony Pulis and Sam Allardyce tactics - I expect more from the alleged 'best' manager in the world

What a load of shite at least we didn't lose

C'mon last minute