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Thats because we rarely played this system and also there is a massive personnel change, to enable us to play this system more efficiently. Dont get me wrong i think Ramires is an integral part of this team and his stamina and engine is second to none. I am simply saying under this new system with all the personnel changes i doubt he will start most games. Just my opinion, i cant wait to find out anyway. I have a countdown to the start of the season

It wont be all attack atttack attack. In a 4-3-3 we have 4 men on the attack with support from the wings. So it would be exactly the same and wouldn't be all attack as with the exception of A cole roaming forward at times the back 5 will sit in.

I doubt if he will play on the right in a 4-2-3-1. Becuase the idea is that it is supposed to allow movement of the front 4 and let them attack, with the two in behind to cover. Wheras Marin is an out and out winger, and if we were to buy hulk then he would be guarenteed to start there.

Where will he play? I agree he is one of our best players... He isn't a winger, and is most effective central... Cant play CAM because of Mata, and he cant play in the 2 deep positions beacuse he likes to roam forward to much, and the idea of a 4-2-3-1 is to be solid and allow the front 4 to roam. So unless we switch to a 4-3-3- which i don't think we should do its hard to see where he can play, as much as i rate the guy.

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------------------------Cech --------------Ivan Cahill Terry A.Cole -------------------Lampard/Mikel Oscar Marin/Ramires/sturridge Mata Hazard -------------------------Torres. It is highly unlikely that Oscar will be playing Wide right.

Skysports news just showed footage of him going in....

He is likely to be playing deep, so he will not be in our front 4... Our front 4 atm is likely to be Marin,Hazard,Mata,Torres, with oscar in behind, unless we get Hulk.

Yep, and when its lampard as well who is the biggest legend this club has, you especially don't ditch them. And lampard is better than both those united pricks.

Yes he is unproven etc, but he has made it into the brazil team, so they most think he has something, as its not like they don't have any other options that could play there, Lampard could well get the nod ahead of him but either way he would have a role to play.

Still don't see why signing a good quality prospect can be a bad thing. We may not need another cm/Cam as the highest priority but everyone loved the idea of modric. I personally would love to see him here. If reports are to be believed as well a few more of our midfield could be leaving and a lot of our youngsters going out on loan.

Totally agree, especially when he still has great quality. The only downside is his age, but he is still one of the fittest players there is, so who cares how old he is. He can still sit on the bench when he is 40, if he can chip in 10 goals a season.

Oscar is better than Raul merieles and suits the type of formation we want to play. Ramires is better imo but we cant play him in those 2 deep roles, and as much as i love Super frank, he wont be able to play every game, though i do expect him to be starting a lot of games as he is still IMO one of our best players . Mikel is the obvious defensive option in the 2. We can also move him forward. If we get him then there is no way he will play wide right, though he can play CAM. if we bought him, given he starts for razil i would fully expect him to be a starter/main rotation as many players will have big roles with the amount of games we have to play in a season.

TBH i cant see us getting hulk atm with or without him. i think the 2 signings are basically mutually exclusive with the exception of the amount of money spent which we know from past experience doesn't seem to be that much of a problem for roman. I think Porto are asking too much and Roman likes to splash the cash though isn't stupid. You don't get that rich by making stupid decisions.

He is thought to be our replacement to possibly having modric with the ability to hold in a DP role or in a CAM role. He is a great young talent and with it being a bit of a gamble if he takes to the prem could be the next best thing. Better that than tottenham get him for cheap and he turns out to be an amazing star. From what i have seen as limited to several clips on youtube and some brazil matches i have seen, he has great talent and even better potential, and it cant do any harm to have him in our squad.

The source says "Nothing is signed but a deal in principle is agreed for €25 million. Which is worrying.

I think we need a RW of the highest priority as if we don't have a new RB, we wont get much overlapping from ivan and ramires is much more central. Wheras on the left we will have A cole overlapping hazard which will be great. i cant wait to see how we line up vs Wigan, or even vs man city if we take the game seriously. EDIT: This is assuming we play a 4-2-3-1.

I don't see how he is that much worse than he used to be. He knows he isn't gonna be starting loads of games. He didn't start loads last season yet was still our top scorer with 16 goals and 10 assists. Dont get any better with experience to come on, and no one i would trust more to make an impact in the last 20 mins of a game.

Still have a mata Wide problem IMO.

Lampard wont leave. He is too much of a God here.

There is no way, ramires would play there instead of Mikel, If we play one man holding they have to be like makelele. And lampard could maybe play there. He would be our supersub.

I just created a new thread where people can post all sorts of fantasy formations etc. Because i heard people were getting annoyed with all the lineup posts....

How about a 4-1-3-1-1. Different i know but could be a viable option. It solves the ramires problem and puts players in preffered positions. The main problem being that it could be fairly lacking definsively and require Mikel to be solid. Though i quite like the idea providing our midfield 3 doesn't sit too deep.

Yeah i see you your point and if we sign no other players it could be a way to go however the problem it causes is that it forces mata to play wide and he doesn't particular like it. Also Mata and hazard linking up would be a bit harder, though it would mean ramires could fit in better, in a CM with the ability to be a box to box player.

I heard people were starting to get annoyed how every thread is starting to become endless lists of starting lineups whenever we were linked to a new player, so thought we could have a dedicated thread to possible lineups and strategies, no matter how different they may be, or whether they are just a thought, and can have whatever players we are linked to or have. footballuser.com is a great site to use if you want all that. Here is my starting line up if the Oscar deal goes through. Obviously, Lampard will have a big role to play in one of those Cm spots and also the RW spot could go to hulk if we sign him, and ramires could have to play more central. What formations would you like to see etc. Some even were talking of a 4-6-0, which in my opinion would be ...