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RDM loses his job after a few bad results and ultimately losing 3-0 to juve (though it was lined up a few weeks before, after we got mugged off by clattenburg (Which come to think of it basically means clattenburg being a idiot meant that RDM lost his job and completely changed our season)). And so far we have lost to west ham drawn at home to fulham and lost the trophy (we don't care about apparently, because its easy or whatever). Is Roman currently lining someone else up?????? I do think we have a serious lack of options right now and sacking another one would cause our rep to go down even further, but its so fucked already i don't see another one being that much worse. We need to go back to having a manager respected by fans and players and is good tactically. For me being respected by both is more important, as it creates a form of team unity, in victory and defeat and also creates better team performances. If this happened when RDM was in charge, we would still be extremely pissed off of course but it wouldn't have been close to what it is now. Rafa must know todays game was huge and it will now have a negative effect. If he wins, he still gets anti rafa chants etc, but a lot of it will die down and people will start to concentrate on the team etc. But now he is back to square one and we will hear anti rafa stuff for a lot longer now. I don't know anymore. I wanted the anti rafa chants in game to stop as i thought it would hurt the team and wouldn't cause a benefit and i cant see it affecting roman; which i still believe to be true, But then we as fans have a voice and something has to be done. I will always support the team and that still has to come first. At least Roman must see what we see and he won't be impressed so i can't see him sticking with it til the summer if this continues. Hopefully we can pick this up as a team, reinforce as january get top 4 and 1 or 2 trophies, but time will tell... Its gonna be an eventful season that is for sure.

I would say just rest key players and we should still be good but tbh i am nowhere near that confident. So i would play a fairly strongish team and see if we can win a trophy, and considering arsenal are out we must have a pretty good chance. Cech Azpi Ivan JT Bertrand Lampard Luiz Moses Oscar Marin Torres (Danny if fit) If we lose this then they all need a good talking too. But if JT is fit and plays i am extremely confident we will win it... JT coming back, if he is fit for this game will give us something to cheer... We need him.

I would rather demba ba for 7 mil tbh, though i admittedly cant say i am a big follower of the french league so he could be the greatest thing since sliced bread but from the little i have seen of him i haven't got too excited about. I think we need a striker in january who can do a job for us up front whilst hoping that lukaku continues his improvement enough to become an extremley useful number 2 until the day he can become the number one or we sell him (but that would be way down the line).

HUH?????? When did i say he should get banned etc. I was talking to backstreet 09 who was busy telling me about how torres was getting no supply and i was wondering whether he had voted torres for motm as he has done so on numerous occasions, when it was pretty clear he wasn't even close to being . I think i even mentioned on the second post in this thread how everyone on the team was very bad with the exception of david luiz. Yes as a team we were shit. I can name more players who had a bad game than an average game today and the blame obviously isn't 100% on torres, but the fact of the matter is he has to score that without question. He should be able to score that with his eyes closed. As i said earlier, can you imagine any striker for a top 10 prem team missing that... No. Gary cahill missed a slightly harder one, and he should have scored so our 50 mil striker definately should off. This has nothing to do with wanting for people to be banned, but i think you have to be trolling or have emence loyalty to a player to think that torres was the MOTM there. I haven't even voted for a MOTM because i don't think we deserve one. And as for the players i want gone part, i want torres to be performing as he can and i don't think it is unfair to think that after 2 years with us of not a lot to want the club to go in an opposite direction than build a team around him in the hope he gets it back. I want the best for chelsea fc and i just can't see it with FT up front.

I am just looking for a one name answer here... Who did you vote for MOTM?

Mata didn't play well today for sure, but he has on many occasions saved our asses, i.e. vs tottenham when he pretty much single handedly won the game for us. Lampard provided him with a few through balls for him to latch onto. If you read my other posts i said how pretty much everyone, david luiz being the main exception played poorly... But when it comes down to it no matter how poor we played with 2 mins left, your striker has to score that. I am not buying any argument like torres thought he was offside the goalkeeper was ready for it etc etc. You have to score there. Can you imagine hernandez missing that with united 1-0 down? Can you image dzecko doing the same? Would defoe? Would podolski? Would berbatov? Would demba? I can go on if you want but the answer is no.... They simply 1 touch control it and slot it calmly in the corner. Then we have the initative and we are in extra time.

Never, roman doesn't care about a person and what they represent to this football club. Making JT manager would eventually result in roman sacking JT and i hated him sacking RDM, so i don't think i could take that happenning to JT.

come on swansea do us a favour.

Mata is crucial to us i don't think anyone can say otherwise. Not everyone can play all the time, and the fact is the pressure is falling on him too much to perform in every game as very rarely others step up. People say he doesn't perform in bug games which i think is BS as whatever anyone says Tot, ars away and man u at home are big games, i can also name you countless other players who were shit vs the likes of barca and juve. He is no drogba in terms of big match performances but very few are.

Why would i say something like that about our best player??? He only gets paid 175k and every week he turns up on time and runs around a bit... That man deserves an award for commitment and is clearly the best player on the team as he runs and stuff.

Time for a positive thing here. We are only 2 weeks from the transfer window and i am sure changes will be made. Hopefully that can change our season round, and ensure we get top 4 and can hopefully win the league cup and maybe europa to salvage something this season.

May as well come out with 10 men and have the 11th man dressed as some grass with a line down the middle who can pop up at crucial times to put it wide.

It's alright lads, we can still win the league cup, then we can sing: capital one cup winners we know what we are....

He has got 2 votes now!!! If you ignore the minutes he was on the pitch he played pretty well.

Gonna go get pissed and try and make this day slightly better.

You see the guy do 7 fucking rolls when he was touched by luiz. Bellend. Also the ref should have booked a few of theirs and one of our players in the first half, which maybe could of prevented some of what happenned though not to a huge extent... Finally, what the fuck happenned with GC, not one camera showed anything?

Absolute BS! He can say what he wants. No excuses for making a change as late at the 72 min when we were getting dominated. No excuse for giving marin only 6 mins when we are down 1-0. They should have been on at least 20 mins earlier.

Its definitely not good for my furniture as i nearly punched a whole in it.

Well if nothing else you just made me have a semi smile.

Rafa needs to change things before. He needs to be active before it happens and not just be reactionary. We all saw it coming in the early part of the second half. Yet 1 change in the 72nd min and marin doesn't come on until 5 mins left. He should have been on 25 mins earlier. Yes moses was bad, gary cahill was etc. But when it comes down to it, we are still in this if torres scores an easy tap in. Gary cahill had a good chance in the first half, he was off balance and had a keeper and a bloke on the line to deal with but he still should off scored. Torres' chance was twice as easy as that. He has a to take a lot of blame here.

Lets be honest here. No one other than the most naive of people thinks signing a great striker will solve all our problems but however we would have scored today and would be in extra time right now. Also we need someone that the rest of the team can feed off and can create something for himself. Commentator said shortly after torres' miss, "he is still trying"... I would fucking hope so for 175k a week.

Not picking a motm! David luiz reaction after was good to see in that it showed his commitment to winning and that came out in his play, but the overall performance was just dire. BTW if anyone picks torres for MOTM:

True, but i am saying we don't have a replacement for cole yet. Bertrand has looked bad tbh when at left back against top quality opposition. Lampard and ramires isn't a great pivot and we have all known that for a long time. On the leadership, yeah it was maybe lacking but no more so than usual. Lets be honest there is only one captain of this football club that looks and acts like an amazing captain.

WTF? Cole is the best Left back we have... You cannot say bertrand is any better. As for lamps he played in torres a few times and was ok. not great but better than a lot of others in that team. I would have played lampard in that game as well. even though its clear a 4-2-3-1 doesn't exactly suit him. For me it comes down to rafa not doing anything til the 72nd min when the world and his wife saw a problem since the start of the second half. Also no oscar til late. Then rb for rb and marin is given just 6 mins? He is a 7 mil bench warmer. JT AND DROGBA!!! LEGENDS. OH HOW I WISH THEY WERE IN THIS TEAM.

Absolute disgrace... Losing the community shield... OK nothing major... Losing the super cup vs atletico... Falcao was amazing and we were shit. Not a huge thing. CLUB WORLD CUP! (WORLD CHAMPIONS) lose vs fucking corinthians... WTF! Its getting stupid now. What we gonna sing now. We know what we are we know what we are, shit like arsenal we know what we are.