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Player I'm most scared of is yarmalenko. Guy plays like prime arjen robben vs us lol

Think it'll be 4-3-3 with kante a bit further forward which is fine. I like it I think it's good havertz is rested and our attack is all about pace. Come on chelsea!

Managers do and lampard has made many as has all football managers. With football fandom, I'm an optimist But as I said to Mana I'm gonna agree to disagree and move on because life is too short. Peace out.

So you can't use the prior years achievements/performances to judge a manager/player/team but we can cherry pick games or whatever. All I've seen is the hilarious gifs from when arsenal lose and they start raging. So no I don't know who they are by name. But it is a great watch (reccomend the gifs from the other day by the way with the bald white guy who looks like voldemort) But yeah I'm gonna agree to disagree because otherwise we will be here all night.

Poch would be a decent manager for us. But I don't believe any manager picks up this team and we are a completely different team. We are still a young inexperienced team (like the coach) and they need time to get used to each other and gel. When everyone's fully fit I think we play different personnel and play differently. I think he wanted to play puli Werner ziyech but couldn't because of injuries. So would I sack Frank for poch. No is the short answer. If Frank was sacked would poch be a good manager for us... Probably yes.

Last thing and then I'm done with this because we are going round in circles. You can check if you want. But I'm probably one of the most supportive of all the players and have never thrown a player under the bus. I get behind all of them. I also never praised lampard for his management in todays game so not sure where you're getting that from. As I have already said I would have benched kai and made subs earlier. Backing the players and backing the manager is favouritsm yes but surely that's the point and part of being a fan, same way we all backed most of the other managers when they were in tenure. People can criticise all they want and constructively is fine and often warranted. But the simple. "that's it he needs to go take" is all I'm disagreeing with

You're right mate

I don't think you can answer that question with a yes or no. Who is it? Mourinho with this team would be better short term I think. Although we know that ends sour and it's not the football we are trying to play. Pep, klopp etc would probably make us better again. Other managers more experienced may be better short term but long term is unknown and that was what Chelsea were trying to do with the appointment. If we wanted a short term appointment we would have gone hiddink or whatever else but we are trying something else which I'm willing to give time and have been very happy with us this season up until the last 2 games when we have been poor.

Well you seem to be expecting us to win the league this season which I don't and have never thought was realistic expextion. Also big difference to exceeding expectations over a long season compared to one FA Cup. No one is blaming anything purely on havertz it was just an example as he was one of the players who was very poor today. And you both seem to love AFTV and whoever Ty Is but makes sense given the nonsense you talk about. But we'll see. You enjoy whining about lampard out and I'll support the team. He's never getting sacked this year. If we underperform in the eyes of roman he'll be gone end of the year as we all know. But who cares where we are now it's where we are compared to everyone else. 6 points from top is 6 points from top regardless of table position. Long way to go.

Mate read the words. WE DIDN'T PASS THE BALL SIDEWAYS ALL GAME as you argued. We tried exploiting the wings which was a good strategy. We have giroud up front getting it wide is important and some of our biggest threat. When timo played we played more through the middle. But if you watched it we didn't just pass sideways as you claimed. You're shouting for lampard out and saying I'm the one from AFTV. Yeah ok mate. Well you enjoy sitting there rooting for us to fail. The proper fans will support the team and constructively talk about it rather than spout the same shit.

Who's talking about him as a player. He's the same guy. And who's blaming the players. It's all the lampard out crowd blaming the players. I haven't blamed anyone. As I've always said these things take time. Havertz has been poor sure but I believe he will get there. It just takes time. And I have questioned his decisions multiple times I just understand the process and no one is ever gonna agree with everything he does. I'm also a FAN and therefore it's a much better experience when you SUPPORT the team rather than just slag them off at every opportunity like you boys do. But it's fine don't worry I understand TC is basically just twitter now and people spout shite all over. Also LOL at getting called a lampard fanboy on a Chelsea forum because I have had him as my profile pic for like 10 years or whatever. The plastic is melting out of you lot.

You can say that as authoritively as you like but he's never getting sacked this season. No we didn't pass the ball sideways all game. We passed it ok but there was zero chemistry between midfield and all of our attackers. Havertz slowed things down and timo was ineffective. If you're actually claiming that you think the sideways passing was because lampard told them too then you're hilarious. As if they can do all this other stuff but havertz is like "lampard will tell me off if I play it forward", pure made up rubbish. And your inexperience comment is completely unfounded. He's inexperienced sure but the rest you don't know at all.

No you're a plastic fan because of how you've only ever popped up every time we lose and you're the same as many others are and have always been that way. That's how you're known on here ffs [emoji23] You weren't saying lampard out and all this shite 5 days ago? Criticism is fine. But you're not constructively criticising, your just crying lampard out because we lost. Last season expected to finish 6th. Finished 4th. So did well all things considered as agreed by pretty much everyone (other than the glory hunters not mentioning any names...) This season. Qualified from the champions league and probably 6 points of top in a crazy season. Sorted our huge defensive issues and big issue we had with set pieces, now are one of the most dominant set piece teams. Yeah we've spent a lot of money. But havertz not being able to make a simple pass is probably not lampards fault, although I'm sure you'll argue that it is. And we're 13 games into the season. Sure we lost some games and there have been some questionable decisions for example I would have played Kova over havertz. However how anyone can scream lampard out is hilarious and sounds just like some sort of AFTV shit. It's been 2 shitty performances and until we get a much bigger sample size then that's all it is.

Imagine being on a "Chelsea forum" and getting criticism for backing a Chelsea legend who has done no wrong so far as a Chelsea manager because of 2 losses. It is really evident when we lose who the "twitter fans" are by the ones sounding like arsenal fans. I'm glad actual fans have a bit of common sense.[emoji23]

You don't know this at all though. The team is inexperienced as well it all takes time. Stop casual fanning it and just blaming everything on the manager. We spent a load of money therefore we should win etc. As if it's lampards fault Werner and havertz have really underperformed so far transitioning to the prem. It'll come but it'll take time.

Get a grip. You're chief of the TC plastic society.

See you all on Saturday. Because the over reaction on here is gonna be unreal

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Just not good enough. We are not title contenders but everyone knew that other than complete dreamers

Mounts delivery is perfect we could have had 2 goals from corners there

Tammy and Kova hardly set the world on fire though so not that unusual. Giroud had just scored 5 goals in the prior 2 games and havertz is no longer on right wing which should be a little better. So not too unusual id say

Very happy with that. Let's get it

No its just bullshit that gets highlighted whenever it happens. Its everyone believing in sods law. Its like when you flip a coin 10 times and it's heads 9 times in a row so everyone says it's due to be tails next. We played Sheffield United Burnley etc etc and won its just something that's said every game and sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't. Just random as is always. Same as people saying it's a terrible time to play a team because they are good. People will look to anything to try and see deeper into it. It's just football sometimes you're the better team and lose. No team will lose every game.

Doing God's work. What a man [emoji23] Although on second watching he got 2 footed first.