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That's a nice offer but probably unneeded if you dissect, not that it needs much, this whole discussion. It's not uncommon for 17 year olds to show themselves to be naive at times surely, followed by admitted sarcastic boasting when having their level of maturity, knowledge, education, whatever - bashed. You should know though.

And you are a bit of an asshole to bring my education which you know very little about into question, are you not?

But it's clearly not a need if this is the first incident of me publicly questioning or criticizing Backstreet about something which is clearly influenced by amplified emotions.

I'm not bragging about going to the final; I'm returning a cheap shot, and almost sarcastically assuming he won't be there. There'd be nothing wrong about bragging going to a final though, considering it's such a big occasion which not all fans will get to enjoy. One would be forgiven for letting their excitement get out of control.

Tribes aren't bad things though. You get bad tribes, you get good tribes. You get African tribes which are simply huge communities which are like a family. That is how I view Chelsea. A tribe. A tribe which is represented by a badge. A badge which has unspoken and unofficial 'rules' which, although don't have to be followed, will eventually lead to someone being questioned or treated differently if they choose not to follow.

I do, but I didn't growing up. I grew up in Hammersmith and attended my first game when I was 2 I think, lived there for quite a few years, moved, moved back, moved up here, now moving back and a load of boring bollocks. Thank you for your concern

Maybe I can wave to you from my seat? :tophat:

I'm not being in a group or being a 'creature' when I'm stating that contempt exists in football under certain circumstances. It exists. I'm not glorifying it, I'm not saying it's a good thing - I'm saying some people are born into it, and whether anyone likes it or not, some will have their support for a club measured by that. I also don't hate anyone on here. I can't hate a forum member

What, like "You should have gone to school longer"? Anyway, see you at the EL final? We could continue this conversation there? :tophat:

Maybe it's different when you're 200 miles away from the club, who knows.

Well when it comes to your primary team, yes. Look at Gala - Fener, Barcelona - Madrid, Arsenal - Tottenham, Sunderland - Newcastle, Atletico - Real, United - City, Milan - Inter, Chelsea - Tottenham, Rangers - Celtic. I didn't wave my magic wand and make this the way people are judged, but especially when it comes to English football, how you react towards other teams has been a measuring tool as to how much you do indeed support a club for decades. If a fan of any of those clubs tolerated, celebrated and/or had good things to say about their rival club, almost every other support of their club would be puzzled, shocked, and even angered. It's always been that way. There's so much more to football than just what we see on the TV. When you support a badge, it is indeed like supporting or being in a tribe. If you support the blue gang on the West Coast of America, the Crips, then you have no tolerance or good things to say about the other half, the red gang, the Bloods. If you're a certain house in Game Of Thrones, of course which is fiction, then it's just the same mentality when it comes to other 'seats' or families. It's not about being abusive to people when you see them wearing a rival team's top or anything like that, but certain events, in football and even politics, date way back in history between clubs which can't be forgotten down through generations. So when you see that opposition of yours succeeding at the cost of the club or 'tribe' or family you love, you can't watch someone else in your 'tribe' be happy about it. It's just wrong. Chelsea is more than a club to some. It's a family. If one of your family members celebrated the progression of a rival family your own family has always despised for whatever reason which comes at the cost of your own family, heads will be turned and people will be angered.

Yes, you actually should. Not doing so is like a Barcelona fan saying "Hey, I actually don't mind Real Madrid :)". .... Never have my suspicions been higher that you're a troll account. You might not be though. You may genuinely be someone who thought he was from Pakistan then found out he's actually Somalian and does indeed really love one of the worst players to ever play for us and seems to enjoy a goal being scored by one of our fieriest rivals during one of the most important times of the Roman era, which if is the case, I apologize for coming off as a dickhead, but I can't be the only one with suspicions now.

But he isn't currently, is he? Neither is Gomez. Gomez is, rather ironically, just like a clone of Mikel but with decent finishing.

Just going to make beating them even better

If this is genuine I hope you get banned because no Chelsea fan would show an ounce of joy or happiness right now.

Torres has near 200 career goals. Doesn't mean he's good.

Bosingwa had well over 100 appearances for us being our starting right back for a decent amount of seasons under many managers. Clearly wouldn't have won the trophies we have without him...

Ok... (The joke is that's my last name... and this was way funnier in my head and now I already regret quoting you and putting this.)

CMON!!! GET NEWCASTLE RELEGATED!!! I'm sure most would just call their fans 'passionate' and they'd say they just have 'fun' but they're amongst the most abusive I've ever witnessed.

I've finally realised who Hazard reminds me of more than anyone. Not Ronaldo, not Messi, not Ribery, not Robben. Yes we can say "he's the first Hazard" blah blah, but if we have to compare him to someone, I think someone almost identical in terms of play is - Luis Figo. Well, in my opinion anyway. I'm not saying this current Hazard compares with in-prime Figo, but I think all the signs are there. I know Figo was more of a winger while Hazard prefers to be a bit more central, but the technique and skills they have/had are uncanny. Not as flashy as, let's say, Ronaldo; but probably more effective with their dribbling and less prolific in-front of goal while racking up huge amounts of assists. Eden just needs to work on his crossing a bit more I think and voilà. I don't see him like Ribery at all. Ribery is a proper winger. Yes, he cuts in a bit, but he's one of the only players currently close to a 'traditional winger' these days. He also gets back a lot more than Hazard and is more direct with less trickery. I wouldn't complain if Hazard turned out like Ribery though!

Win tomorrow (unlikely, I know) and we'll be what, 5 points ahead of Spurs, still to play them? (If they draw today) which could potentially make it 8 points ahead if we beat them and United... Fuck. Reality just sunk in and this is a really crucial next week or 2 ahhh, i'm not excited.

Let's make things interesting. Who here believes Mikel is better than Schneiderlin? If you say you do believe that, I have to question whether you're just sticking to your guns and putting Mikel and your opinion before the club and reality. This should also lead to a beheading. (Just to add my opinion to the mix - We're talking about defensive-midfielders as in the position, not the role, otherwise there wouldn't even be a Mikel-Luiz comparison constantly going on. So Yaya Toure is actually someone who can be compared as he starts in the exact same position as Mikel, as do Wilshere, Arteta, Ramires, Guzman, Sandro, Garcia and so-on, all of whom perform leaps and bounds ahead of Mikel. If we're talking which 'role' they perform and not just their position, we can't compare Mikel with anyone, because no one else in the league just stands there like a branch, only moving when the wind sways them a bit.) Toure, Tiote, Diame, Luiz, Ramires - They all play in the same position as Mikel and run more, do more, give more and try harder. They are the players who hassle the opposition and press them into making a mistake. They also have quite lanky legs so win the ball back with ease. Luiz, Wilshere, Arteta, Dembele - They all play in the same position as Mikel and act as playmakers yet still get in tackles and cover decent ground. Sandro, Lucas, Garcia, Schneiderlin - They all play in the same position as Mikel and act as proper defensive midfielders; Covering ground, tackling, laying off simple passes forward for the attacking players to make use out of, protecting the back four, running back after making mistakes to try and make amends. So... where does Mikel excel? It's just sad. Makelele to Mikel is like going from C. Ronaldo to Quaresma. Sure, they play the same position and look a bit similar, but they are so far away from eachother in terms of quality. Now that's just comparing skill-level (if you could call that a comparison... which admittedly, it probably wasn't.) Will we even get started on attitude? Even Torres has a better attitude than him. Don't ask for an example; I have too many and my fingers will bleed typing them out.

Hull are one of the most boring teams in English football. I know it's unfair but I hope they get boo'd during their first PL game. Was so happy when they got relegated.

So we can compare Mata/Silva, Chalobah/McEachran, Cole/Baines, but we can't compare Eden with anyone?