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My bad. Couldn't even see the celebration...

Good god. Yes, De Gea made good saves at Liverpool but they were all saves that you would expect any decent goalkeeper to make. It's not like he had to outstretch himself every time to make saves in that game. So because Courtois let in 8 goals in September, that means he's shit? Maybe you should start looking at how our defence defend for those goals to begin with. No, you didn't but saying Lloris is outright better than Courtois is just plain dumb.

Wait, what? Are you trying to prove Courtois didn't celebrate with a crappy video?

Right...like opponents don't shoot straight at De Gea half of the time. When De Gea makes a save for United - any save - people go gaga over it. When Courtois makes one - hardly anyone says anything. Emotions may be running high now after the Roma disappointment but I'm certain if you go through the games properly you'll find he's made good saves as well. So we are going to pretend like Lloris doesn't make blunders? What about his goalkeeping for Alonso's winner at Wembley? Or that howler for France at Sweden earlier this year?

To be fair, that's the main weakness of any back 5 system. Stop the wingbacks and you basically take away at least half of the attacking threat. And the lack of quality isn't helping either.

Valid points but we can't do anything about quality until January at least. Right now, we need changes from somewhere to hopefully change things around before they get even worse.

All this based on what? Because he never celebrates goals? Doesn't make saves? What a farce! Go find images or videos of Courtois and I'm 100% sure you'll find him celebrating goals.

Okay Tom, we heard you the first time...

He's done well in his appearances so far but he was really bad for Dzeko's first goal. Ball watching and didn't track his run from the start.

Some serious body language analysis going on here...

Cahill, Luiz, Alonso in a back 4? Bakayoko AND Fabregas in front of them??

So who is confident we will win this?

Chelsea 4-2 Watford PRE/POST-MATCH DISCUSSION, LIVE CHAT AND ANALYSIS 2017/18 Premier League Match 9 21st October, Saturday, 2017 Stamford Bridge 12:30 Kick Off (UK time)

Kante FC. Hazard FC. Injury FC.

From bad to worse...

https://www.football-italia.net/111516/conte-chelsea-changes-didnt-work

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That too. But with this 3-5-2, 3-4-3, you do feel like they have run their course, at least for now. If our WBs get shut down, which opponents seem to be doing easily these days, then we're pretty much dead offensively because everything will go through midfield and we become utterly predictable.

You know we're in trouble when someone like Azpi having a shocker.

We wouldn't have in 10/11? Forgotten the 3-0 loss to Sunderland, that 3-3 shambles against Villa or 1-0 reverse at Wolves?

What's with Bakayoko giving away fouls in dangerous areas?!

Time to switch back to a back 4?