didierforever

obviously i will. at the end of the day they are my team. if i moan, its because i am unhappy specially considering some of the things seems so obviously and blatantly wrong. i "moan" cos i care.

if u read my first post, i specify the "same players starting". i dont think jose will drop any of our "untouchables". PS - bego azpi zouma GC baba ramires matic RLC willian costa oscar hazard needs a break. cesc needs to be benched. iva needs to be reserved. i feel matic's poor performance have been exagerrated cos of cesc's defensive frailities and a massive defensive workload. i think any and every DM in the world would struggle right now playing for us. even if this team loses, i am sure they will give their all rather than cheaply folding over like we some of our players have been doing. but this is all a day-dream. we all know exactly what the line up is going to be despite of jose's "strong words"

YAY!! matchday!!! another game of crap defending, slow passing, no transition, lots of ball losing and same player underperforming... come on.. lets get them!!! is this spirit fine?

And when you have individuals with that unstable attitude in terms of motivation, desire and commitment, you will pay. so who was saying that our players dont lack the desire and the motivation. even jose has admitted as much

nothing in his 2 appearances for us, has baba shown to be unfit. infact his bombarding runs and his cover going back has been immense. his energy has been immense. a CB trying to cover for his FB when his FB does nothing at all, is totally different to a player actually playing as a FB. sorry, but i cant judge zouma on that. as a FB, u r the first line of defence against a winger. as a CB, you have to be aware of the striker behind or near you and then commit yourself towards the winger in case your FB cant do that job (which in this case is 5-10 times in a game). a completely different case scenario. exactly, the situation could and should have been handled differently. but like u said.. mourinho. he is to blame here. we got begovic in place of cech, who has been our player of the season so far (sad but true). jose wanted pogba. a 100mil pound pogba. i am sorry, but any club outside of barca/RM will find it IMPOSSIBLE to get him. i dont blame the board. i blame the board for stones (even though i did not want him). if getting stones meant playing him as RB and chucking iva in the reserves right now, i take back everything i had said, and i wish we had paid 50mil for him to just get him. stones, i can agree. but not about pogba. i am sorry. jose wont get everything that he wants. hell, SAF beat arsenal 8-2 with a mid of cleverly and anderson. if he is the "special one", he needs to show why. as for stones, it was jose and him getting on martinez's and everton's faces which probably made everton dig in their heels. the continous comments of everton being a "small club" wwould have played a massive part in deciding them not to sell stones. i am sorry, but no one is bigger than the team. and the only BIG PLAYER in chelsea according to your definition is eden. cesc comes no where near. you cant have a player playing in the center of the pitch who cant defend, who cant hold the ball under the slightest pressure. yes, cesc will always have a moment. but we are sacrificing 90 minutes of good play for 1 good pass in a match. sorry, but again, unacceptable. also, when was the last time cesc played a through ball? i honestly cant remember. i remember him playing long quarter back-ish passes which are very tough to control and finish. but through balls. NO. he doesnt. fair enough, but if it is so with JT, how does the same thing not apply to iva. players are getting behind him and running riot anyways. thats the point. you cant make everyone happy, but jose seems intent on making everyone unhappy except for his "untouchables".

does not he get tired of bullshitting every week?

i would like to see scarlett johnson nude in real life but somethings just wont happen.

agree 100%

some people are better suited to be writing foolish things in the KDB thread/posting dubious stats over and over again.

there is a difference between support and interest. first of all, understand THAT.I will support MY club tomorrow too and infact mo matter what happens i will support them.but there is only so much interest a person can show.what do i show interest in?the same line up no matter how much we under-perform?iva getting spanked again?cesc-matic pivot getting over-run again?probably since this is a "big-away" match, rambo getting shafted on the RW and having no idea what to do, again? anyways, my interest in the game is as much "interest" the players and the manager showed against newcastle in the first half. also, since u have said i lack perspective (patience, i agree). i would like u to elaborate on that. tell me your perspective of iva and cesc starting every game. tell me your perspective about there being absolutely no meritology in the squad. tell me your perspective on the total stagnantion of our attacking play.

about our current situation? i mean i cant wait for our manager to put in the same team and underperformers match after match. i cant wait for other teams to follow the same pattern of play to exploit the same weaknesses match after match. i cant wait to watch the same shit unfolding match after match.

not a least bit interested in this match. mr. ego-maniac wont make any changes, our midfield will be over run. our RB will look worse than a college football player. we are going to lose.

he will. as a RW

lies lies and some more lies.

i think u have confused baba and RLC here. i dont remember jose saying anything about baba's fitness. i may be wrong but i honestly cant remember. as for him having fitness issues, i think baba played some 30 league matches or something last year, did not he? also, i dont remember zouma playing on the wing against palace. he played as a CB. fair point about his passing but have u seen azpi's passing on the left? the guy has to continously switch feet to change the ball from left to right, losing precious seconds and giving defenders the time to get back. not blaming azpi, he is right footed and should be played as one. zouma would hardly be a hindrance to our attack down the left. jose played zouma as a LB against arsenal in CS. so apparently that was something which he has thought of. so why has not he tried that on the pitch. its been 10 games in the season now. not just 3/4 poor games. the buying and selling u r talking about is for the guys like mata and luiz. luis being sold for 11mil and buying baba for 21 mil was hardly balancing the books or even maintaining the quality. maybe baba will be a gem for later years, but right now we are getting screwed big time. so i cant blame the board for it. what about cesc and iva? are they training so well that their hopeless performances match after match is being rewarded by start after start?i am sorry, but what exactly has JT done wrong to be made to be benched?RLC gets play time against tel aviv and walsall. he can find as good opponents as them in the under-21 league. why was RLC not on even on the bench against newcastle after putting in 2 MOTM performances? hell, he should have been on the pitch starting the game. these useless minutes in cup games against weak oppositions mean nothing when the team is getting beaten and over run every game in the PL.

totally agree with u, in an ideal world. but this is not an ideal world. this is a world where the worst player in PL currently is given the captain's armband for the defending champion. to succeed at this level, a player needs to believe in his ability. remember when sturridge had said that he can be a 20 goal a season striker. thats the sort of belief a player needs to succeed. maybe not so much but i hope u get what i am saying. moreover, if RLC is supposed to be a talent as big as people say he is and he is looking to be, i am sure he can read the game and has a good footballing IQ. he has to know that he is a better fit for this team than someone like cesc. he has to see some of the wrong things that are happening selection wise and tactics wise.

good old days. i remember when i was so naive.

we dont? are u telling me that after 2 performances from baba you think he is half as bad as iva is currently? or zouma will be as a FB? and by the way, if we dont have an alternative, whose fault is it? why did we let luis go? why did we have to sell bertrand prematurely if we were going to let luis go? why could we pay 21 million pounds for baba who apparently is not good enough to replace the worst player in premier league these days but not add a couple more and get ricardo rodriguez. a 20 year old right back, played as a left back and OWNED pedro. things are not always linear in life. sometimes u (by u i mean jose) has to take risks. infact dropping iva and playing baba/zouma/hell even aina wont even be a risk right now. but for that, he has to show balls and drop his favourite.

210 minutes then? sorry, but not enough for me to judge a player.i dont know when they switched from 3-5-2 but i do remember watching moses play a lot of matches as a RWB which was hilarious.cuadrado was deemed surplus. we had better options than him in the squad (moses being one of them), willian being the other and then pedro came along.to get back to form cuadrado would have needed time, which we just could not offer. no one is saying he is flawless. no one is saying he is lahm. even JT is not flawless. but defensively he is quite good. i have never seen him struggle defensively.

first things first, lets clear the misconceptions you have about moses. he played for a whole of 847 minutes for liverpool. they were not in any european competitions. got knocked out in the first matches of both the domestic cups. now lets come back to the point of second half of the season - from match day 20 to matchday 38, he played a total of 69 minutes. but kudos to judging him on that. and if you dont believe me, here are the stats. http://www.transfermarkt.com/victor-moses/leistungsdaten/spieler/59866/plus/?saison=2013 yes, that is a weakness. but can bertand cross? can bertrand defend 1v1 situations? can bertrand not get dribbled past multiple times in a match. overall, is bertrand defensively good. the answer is yes.

jose actually pulled a wenger on us. his CM target was pogba. a 100mil pound player who was wanted by barca and who will end up at barca. plus juve was never going to sell him after losing pirlo, vidal and tevez. we were "in for him" but never stood any chance realistically. in the end, people would say the board failed (like they are currently). whats worse is that players like koke were available for 60mil euros buy out clause and would have been a massive massive massive upgrade for us. but i honestly dont think jose even wanted a CM. he has cesc, why would he need a proper well rounded CM.

jose actually pulled a wenger on us. his CM target was pogba. a 100mil pound player who was wanted by barca and who will end up at barca. plus juve was never going to sell him after losing pirlo, vidal and tevez. we were "in for him" but realistically, we never stood a chance. exactly a thing wenger does every summer and most of the fans end up angry at the board.

again with the one match examples? what about getting into the PL team of the year? do you even get what u r comparing? bertrand was always consistent and a solid option that again jose's stubborness cost us. moses was average playing as a CAM in a 3-5-2 or as a right wing back which is technically the most difficult and demanding position to play. he is a winger, who can do a defensive job too but it does not mean that you can play him as a RWB. and then comes the fact of how he has looked every time he has been given a chance for us (even if its pre-season).

ryan bertrand - played a brilliant game in the CL final. was consistently good at every oppurtunity he got for chelsea. was in the PL team of the year last year. moses - in his one season for us, he was one of our best players in europa league. has been brilliant in every pre-season oppurtunity he has got for the club, was really good at stoke last year before injuries ruined the season, has had a brilliant start to the whu loan spell. but i can see why u would compare a player who got into the PL team of the year to some random guy in league 1 playing 1 good match. brilliant argument.

you have not understood the reason for what i wrote. we were not on top. we had more possession cos arsenal were willing to sit back and then counter and get behind our defence. the exact thing they did against us in CS. they were executing their plan quite well. hence saying, we were on top, makes no sense and infact is just plain wrong.