SinineUltra

That's called cheating, but Manu have always got 12 on the field so why cant we, right?

Unless scouts scout our managers, they are not doing a bad job shown by the example of quality signings YouNameIt mentioned.

Swansea games didn't help either. After that he has been so concentrated to up his mistake that his desire to do well gets better of him.

Di Matteo picked Bertrand to play his debut CL match in the final, on the wing. Regardless of having Malouda, Sturridge on the bench. Do you believe Bertrand is a better winger than Malouda / Sturridge? Or did RDM lack a footballing brain? Your hate for Rafa is blind, please try to see a bigger picture here.

Azpi has been one of the most overused players this season. Thing I can't see is why Rafa/RdM didn't use Marin instead of Bertrand? Marin has been better than him everytime he comes on the pitch. Does Ryan transform into somekind of Ronaldo hybrid in the training to make them select him week in week out regardless of being so dependent on his left foot, lacking trickery and experience on the wing.

So what you're saying is that sacking Rafa will solve our problems. He is the only one dribing us down, not the lack of players in our disposal. A new manager can come in, somehow breed Mata and have more options and come out with results? Im not saying Rafa should stay but why can't you see a bigger picture here? He is not the real problem here.

Funnily enough I saw people making fun before the game that his subs will surely be Azpi vs Ivan and so on. And didnt he get murdered on this forum for subbing a defensive minded Ivanovic and putting on attacking minded Luiz, who started to offer threat as soon as he got on with his low driven powerful passes from the deep. Other than that I agree with you post, excluding the sarcastic point.

I agree, Rafa has to go in order win over fans for atleast some periods of time before the new manager needs to make unpopular decisions due to lack of options.

The most urgent matter is that we are overusing our players. The most vital part of our formation -the 2 midfielders- are Lamps and Ramires, we have noone to sub them with until Luiz comes back and Mikel returns and both of those are something we can't control, nor can the new manager. We are sitting ducks unless we can get most of our players back. Agree about Wilkins, ill be a major boost to us but will he come and even he can't bake bread from shit. And again, we might dislike Benitez, but we dont know whats going on in the dressing room. This isn't as obvious as AVB or Scolari case.

Let's say Rafa gets sacked in the evening. We get a new temporary manager that will lift the mood of the fans, not so sure about players, because they will still need to play shitloads of games with no reinforcements coming in any time soon - same old for them. My main question is though, how do we know that the next manager wont start using Torres, can make subs that suit all our FANS, can work out a possible rotation policy with a non existing and not play Bertrand, Oscar etc out of position, even though we lack options? I mean Rafa isn't the first one to have an headache with Torres etc.

Being a hardman is catching up to him with age. I dont question his desire to do well but sometimes if you want something too bad, you wont achieve it.

I've been lurking on this board from 2009 and I can't say any manager has been given time by fans. It usually takes a few months before new possible manager candidates start to pop up randomly.

Agree with you. Might be because he is played in a role he never should play in. He is AMF and we can't change that. He never was Pirlo like player the current role asks him to be. Apart from that he scored a brilliant goal-shame it didn't count for nothing today - but also showed many misplaced passes, tiredness from lack of rotation options. 6/10

To be fair here, we did come out all guns blazing albeit the goals being superb. But we mentally cracked right after the defense brainfart with their 2-2 goal.

Feel the same way, we need a big fighting spirit not a big price tag. Good post!

Wtf is it got to do with players not liking the manager? It's the fans that make our relatively young squad panic and afraid to commit mistakes, which ironically is exactly what it does.

Nothing had indicated that. What has been seen is that our players can't cope with all this negativity from the fans on and off the field. That is caused by Rafa and he should leave to make supporters back the team. Though it's funny how some choose not to support the TEAM just bcs a manager we all dislike is in charge.

Enough of feeling sorry for ourselves. We could have had a penalty, they should have had a red card for their brutality but coulds,woulds,shoulds don't count. We were shit, only players worth mentioning are Mata and Cech. Where has our defense gone? Terry being back showed that we missed a leader in the team, we had a go and scored 2 goals after what our fucking defense went napping and left Cech exposed. Although I can't see any rift between raf and players, there's an insurmountable gap between the manager and the fans and it's catching into the players. Negativity everywhere, blind hatred. Again we were wasteful, clumsy. Players were so fucking lazy, going to attack everyone were looking for Mata just to pass the ball on and then hide behind defenders. When we were counter attacked, fucking hell, OSCAR was making a run back with Cahill after Terry did that sliding tackle that took him out of the game and left Cech against 2 Newcastle players. Sacking Rafa would be treating a syndrome here, real treatment can only be done in the summer when we get -as funny as it is with us- a new long-term manager and as it looks so far, dont renew contracts, let them leave and get in new hungry players that have the legs, the desire to actually do something. At the moment, whats going on on the field shows total disrespect for the shirt.

May i remind you we dont have Mikel and wont have him for some time, same goes for Moses, Luiz.

We need a change and fast, old guard out, Rafa out and get in a manager with fresh idea, fresh players - not necessarily expensive gold diggers but hungry players like Azpilicueta, Ba, SISSOKO.. there are bargains out there.

2mil for Sissoko? What a buy...

Game's definitely not under control by Coward Web.

2-2 better than 0-1, we were in worse situation - what a game and hopefully we can get something out of this nailbiter.

SICK, WHAT A SHOW OF SPIRIT BY CHELSEA!

Trademark goal ! Pick that out