Like I said the jury is still out mate, let's just agree to disagree. I'm not denying he is one of the top manager, maybe his methodology and philosophy is great but he also desperately needs top quality players to execute. At the end of the day, if he can coach a lesser team for example Conte's Italy and still make his stamp, I will be convinced. But I don't think we can witness it because he always coach top teams lol.