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Bulut (agent Turan): "We didn't talk with Chelsea at any moment. Barça have always been Arda's first option." [spornet-ntv via md] Meaning - United and Chelsea didnt want him.

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The only reliable source who talked about Turan-Chelsea is Rob Beasley, who said we dont want him. I see no reason to think we wanted him.

Are you serious? I like Arda but Iniesta is better, and Iniesta IS Barcelona... he wont be bencehd for Arda.

Done. Arda Turan joins Barcelona on a 5-year deal for a transfer fee of 34M plus 7M incentives. Until 20 July, Barcelona's new board will have an option to sell Arda Turan back to Atletico for a transfer fee of 30.6M

And who said that we offered 20m and Barca offered more? you shouldnt listen to any rumor... i dont even understand who said it. The move makes little sense? i dont think so, i think Barcelona are the only club willing to buy Turan. Maybe PSG too and he dont want to go there. Your first line doesnt make any sense. Barcelona have no reason to "show Juve they aint desperate with Pogba", Juventus dont want to sell this summer, and Barcelona cant register Pogba until January. Pogba is about next summer.

He said it after he failed to close the deal for Pogba. Bartomeu is the one trying to sign Pogba for months. I belive Enrique want Turan, doesnt mean he dont want Pogba. Anyway, imo this has nothing to do with Chelsea, the only sources claiming we want Arda are Sport (Catalan) and AS who didnt really talked about an actuall offer, no figures or anything. If Arda wants Chelsea and we want him, this would've been done. The meeting Barcelona are having shouldnt matter if it was the case.

You got it all wrong. Barca's interim board not supposed to sign players, when there's no president. Bartomeu illegally pushed for the signing of Turan through the board (his people). Its not supposed to happen, the board dont have the authority to make such big decisions. There was pressure on the board (also from fans) to not make the Arda Turan deal until there's new president. Who said Enrique doesnt want Pogba? more bs from Bartomeu. Bartomeu is the asshole in this situation, for trying to control the club in this pre-election period. And he's trying to block Laporta chance to sign Pogba by signing Turan. Bartomeu himself tried to sign Pogba for months, he appointed CEO Braida ONLY for this deal, and he failed (the 80m offer Juve rejected a few days ago... thats Bartomeu-Braida job). So now Bartomeu saying Enrique didnt even want Pogba, because he couldnt get him, and Enrique wants Turan... thats all games by Bartomeu, and its pathetic because everyone know he tried to sign Pogba a few days ago... Briada even confiremd Juve rejected their offer. So suddenly Enrique dont want Pogba and want Turan? blatant lies.

It doesnt look like he have other options.

I just think that Turan would play #10 if he came here maybe more than RW. Thats his best position. But i dont think we want him.

I cant see the difference for Oscar between signing Gotze or Turan. He'll have serious competition for the #10 in both cases, when Gotze could also play RW.

I seriously dont get why you dont post the source you read those news at... now everyone talk about it like its a fact, when no one knows who said that.

Or, Vidal simply wont come to Real...

And who says that?

I would take Shaqiri for Salah. But i would like to have other players (like Turan) before Shaqiri. I even prefer him over Cuadrado. Good ball control, strong, thats already better for us than Cuadrado and Salah.

If we wouldnt sign, close the deal, or even show interest in Turan until 18th july, than we dont want him. If Chelsea is his preferred choice, nothing stop us from getting him.

So Rob Beasly saying we want Sterling, but in "our terms".

I seriously cant understand why we didnt go for Allan. And it also doesnt look like we're going for anybody else. And Mikel is still here. Maybe we're going to play with Matic-Cesc in all big games (or at least thats what Jose wants)? i hope thats the reason.

We're also 'linked' with Pogba... Di Marzio said it, Sport said it, whats the difference from City? Im willing to bet anyone that Pogba wont come to City, and im sure its not even an option for him. Song is not coming. KDB? Turan is much better for this team, and imo just a better player but never mind. The truth is that most of the fans here cant look any further than "Chelsea". They think Chelsea is unique in trying to improve and pushing to be the best, other clubs targets and ambition dont matter. "Varane, Reus, Vidal, Pogba, lets just get them already, we're Chelsea the chmapions of england".. so? Its funny that a summer of Cesc (who wanted out of Barca and was quite cheap) and Costa (who wanted Chelsea and had a fair release clause) changed everyone's view and expectations. What if Cesc wanted to stay? or Costa price was a lot higher? we had luck to get those two in the right moment (especially Cesc). The needed piece right now is probably RW, and this time it will be harder. Other clubs who needs and want to improve even more than us like PSG and City done nothing until now, Bayern got Costa, Real did nothing, Arsenal only got Cech our 2nd GK.

You are making it very hard... I mentioned Kondogbia, Allan and Gustavo as my ideal options for CM. Those were my top options in the beginning of the summer. Thats the kind of CMs i want in our squad instead of Mikel. I know Kondogbia is gone and Gustavo is very hard to get. Most realistic in this point - or a few days ago - are Song and Allan (Napoli didnt closed the deal, but it doesnt matter cause we're not doing anything to get him) . Thats the reason i wrote them in my squad. "which is this new CM that you want. i honestly dont see any options out there" - i can also say i want Vidal, i wish he'll come, i just dont think its doable at all. Its like Reus, "lets sign Reus, lets sign Vidal". There are not many options for midfield, most of the potential options went for new clubs. It also doesnt seem like Chelsea wanted someone... there were reports about Pogba and Song, i think thats it.

Seems like Salah dont want to play for Fiorentina... Salah did not give an answer to the club so the company decided to act accordingly. Fiorentina intend to issue a statement (SkySport24) The player will earn a reported €1.8m, in his old contract, since Salah did not respond to #Fiorentina's new offer. (SkySport24) #Fiorentina had already paid #CFC the €1m loan fee & offered to raise wages to €2.8-3m but Salah did not respond by deadline. (SkySport24) Fiorentina tried to talk to Salah & arrange a medical but he does not seem willing to accept and would like to settle elsewhere. (calcioweb) Fiorentina considers valid Salah's agreement made with #CFC in January and figures of the loan contract were fixed at the time. (calcioweb)

You're ignoring i also want a new CM who will play, not another Mikel. I dont know if it will be Allan or Song or whatever, but i do agree we need that CM. I said Allan or Song because it looks like all the other CMs are off to other clubs (Schniderlin, Kondogbia, Imbula etc). Allan also looks like he's off to Napoli. We need someone, i just dont think it could be Vidal when Juve want to stay competitive and are losing Pirlo and Tevez this summer. And i dont think we need to keep Oscar if we get Vidal+Turan, and i dont think we can give enough game time for everyone in that midfield. Thats our only difference. "how does your squad have any cover" - We literally have the same number of players for Midfield. If you're talking about defense, we also have the same number, you just wrote Christensen and another one, players who wont play. I just wrote: "With couple of players from the academy for the HG thing" Our Problem wasnt numbers in the squad, it was the squad players who were not good enough (Mikel, Cuadrado/Salah/Schurlle). If it was my choice, still being a bit realistic (meaning - no Vidal) our back up options for midfield were: Oscar, Gustavo/Kondogbia/Allan, Ramires. 3 decent-great options. Plus RLC, Remy and Traore. * "raphina (supposedly better than thiago)".... You shouldnt have wrote that. Although he seems very good.

Vidal is a big difference between our squads. And you're talking like Vidal isnt playing for one of the best teams in Europe. If he was playing for Lazio i would understand, but he plays for Juventus. Their ambitions are very similar to ours. If you dont like Song thats one thing, he's only an example, but i also talked about Allan or any other CM that fits. Talking about injuries, i think my squad have enough cover. Off course your squad is ideal but i dont think its realistic to have so many Top midfielders. Mikel almost didnt play last season, if you replace him with a CM who can also replace Matic than its an impvorment from last season. Cuadrado didnt play last season and was awful, Turan is a big impvorment on him. Thats 2 players to add to our current (playing) squad. Matic, Cesc, Ramires, New CM; Oscar, Willian, Hazard, Turan, Traore, Remy. 10 options for 5 spots. I cant see the need in having more options. But i cant see a place for another midfielder who needs to play almost every game (like Vidal). R.Madrid back-ups for midfield last season - Isco, Illarramendi, Khedira, Jese, Silva. Barca back-ups for midfield last season - Rapinha, Xavi, Pedro, Roberto, Munir. Bayern back-ups for midfield last season - Martinez, Rode, Gotze, Muller/Alonso/Thiago (depends who starts). Both teams have small squads. Arsenal have a big squad, especially in midfield, filled with not-great players or players who're constantly injured for half a season.

"Realistically speaking". If i look at it realistically, the squad i wrote is the one i think we could have. Maybe there will be some surprises along the way, that will change it.. I can see a big improvement in having Turan over Cuadrado, and Allan/Song over Mikel. We won the title, our main problem was the big games, Turan+a good technical box-to-box CM can help us in those games a lot. About the midfield options, the main issue is why you even need Oscar when you have Vidal, Cesc, Willian and Turan for 3 positions? one of those players will be upset for not getting enough game time, and ask to leave by the next summer or January. This Bayern squad was a freak one, its a radical example. And players were injured a lot, couple of 30+ players in there, and Shaqiri and Kroos left. Our 09-10 squad contains lots of "old" guys - Deco, Ballack, Cole, Essien was injured for the all season, you cant compare it with Oscar, Willian, Turan, Vidal, Cesc and Hazard. Thats 6 young-in their prime regular starters in the best teams in Europe, and you want two of them to sit on the bench. I cant see it happening, and its not needed. "even if he is not available, get him" - your suggestion is kidnapping? if Juventus want him to stay, and he wants to stay, he wont leave.

Sounds ideal, but: 1. Still dont understand why everyone seem to think Vidal is leaving Juventus. No trustworthy reports, agent+player+club saying the opposite. 2. Vidal+Turan and this all midfield is an overkill. For each game Mou will have to choose 4 of Cesc, Vidal, Willian, Turan, Oscar and Hazard. And you have Remy and Traore. If Mou will (somehow, cant see it and not sure he wants to) bring a regular starter type of CM, like Vidal, Oscar has no place in the team. Turan, Cesc and Willian can fill the RW and CAM spots. 3. Cant see a reason to have both Remy and Solanke. And Traore. Looking at this transfer window, realistically speaking i hope for this squad: GKs - TIbo, Begovic DEFs - Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic, Azpi, Zouma, Luis/Baba CMs - Matic, Cesc, Ramires, RLC, Song/Allan AMs - Hazard, Willian, Oscar, Turan, Traore STs - Costa, Remy, Falcao With couple of players from the academy for the HG thing.