Henrique

"Despite being firm favourites to beat Corinthians in Yokohama, they were outplayed and - more worryingly - outfought by the South American champions, who sealed victory through Paolo Guerrero in front of a partisan crowd of die-hard supporters." http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/match-report-chelsea-add-global-humiliation-to-woes-after-loss-to-corinthians-in-club-world-cup-final-8420789.html This is what is happening this season, the players are outplayed AND outfought in most part of the games. This is really worrying, because in may occaions a lot of these guys are acting like losers. This team lacks heart, soul and leadership. Mata is a good player, but he still is the guy that lost a penalty in an UCL final after all.

yes.

Luiz really wanted to win this, one of the few thats respected the club.

Styles is right, Mata is not good to play against teams that pressure and close down the space.

Manchester, Arsenal and Spurs are not teams that pressure that much or close down the space.

That where things were wrong, because we had to worry about our defence, Benitez got it wrong, he thought Corinthians would only park the bus. Huge mistake, and he just failed to change this in the 2nd half.

No I was against bashing him after 3 games and only one week as coach. Today it was a horror show, in fact it seems he thought only Chelsea would play, and it was really stupid to use both Ramires and Lampard as DM. I really dont know why Lampard started this game, since he is coming from injury and did not played for months, and to make it worse he started as DM. In second half he failed to see the problem was there, and he changes the guys up front. It was clear that we lacked something in the mid, he used Mikel + Luiz in game against Monterey, and now he came with that,.

He was playing so bad thet the feree decided to punish him.

It was one of the supidiest things I have ever seen in football. What the fuck was he thinking? Ramires and Lampard as DM? It was there that we lost the game. Tite tottaly outclassed Benitez.

BENITEZ OUT. FACT.

Fuck off, Moses... Fuck Benitez.

WTF is Benite thinking??

Benitez outclassed by Tite.

No, they are playing like Swansea or West Bronwich. Reading is on botton of the table.

Corinthians is playing really well.

Who are those people saying Cahill was our best defender??

I dont know what you do, but I never met one person was the same at 18 and 23 year old. specially because its a time when a lot of different experiences are happening, like university, job, driving cars, getting your own money. Anyway, perhaps you are weird or you never thought about how you were 5 years ago.

It shows you are not intelligent and mature enough, because no people in the world is mature or intelligent enough with 18 or 24 years old. A 18 years old saying he is mature enough...typical. :tophat:

lol, really? Thats not a good thing.

You are 18 years old, so it explains your behavior and the typical arguments made by teenagers. Believe me, 6 years from now you realize that sometimes experience also brings intelligence. I'm wasting my time with you. :tophat:

@rmpr dude, dont waste your time to write a huge post that has nothing to do with the subject. You said I'm anti brazilian and unbrazilian based in the fact I say brazilian league is not good and that Corinthians is as good as Swansea. I want you to prove I'm unbrazilian and anti brazilian. edit: I realized you are 18 years old...nevermind.

You are wrong, brazilian dont get offended for relating Brazil to football and samba, people get offended when they think Brazil is all about samba and football, thats a huge difference. The argument by the other guy here was even more stupid, because he said I'm anti brazilian because I believe brazilian league is weak, Corinthians is in same level as West Browinch and Swansea, or because I think this FIFA trophy is shit even if some brazilians see it as a huge thing.

Dude, this post only shows I was right about you: you are the typical brazilian that thinks Brazil = football. In fact I never talked about Brazil in this forum, only about brazilian football. You are that kind of people that believes they have to say good things about brazilian football to show all their "brazilian proud". So dont come with this bullshit about not having pride for anything brazilian. I downgrade brazilian football league, I never downgrade my country, dont come with this bullshit, I'm not the kind of person that is proud of Anderson Silva and Neymar, in fact Brazil would be a better place if it was known for scientists, universities and technology other than football, UFC and samba. Waste your nationalism with things that really matters, its better than trying to prove that Corinthias can beat anyhting in the world if they play like they did in Libertadores only 5 months ago. I dont have any proud of Corinthians, and when I'm in another country the last thing I will talk about Brazil is football. edit: your "anti-Brazil" and "unbrazilian" thing is really pathetic dude, grow up. Read some books about brazilian history, perhaps you might understand what being a brazilian means, and please, dont you ever say I'm anti brazilian again, or I will have to contact the adms, because its easily the most offensive thing it was said about me in this forum.

Dude, please stop quoting my posts to reply with this kind of thing. I have a solid opinion about brazilian football, so please, dont come with this kind of argument. The fact it will still be considered awesome in SA, even if its shit and stupid only shows how SA is far way from the 1st world of football. Dont get me wrong, but I think its a little embarrasing, 60% of the posts about this "world cup" came from you, but most part of this forum dont really care about it, even in SA I'm pretty sure that only Brazil (and because its Corinthians) is paying attention for this competition, in fact I think the football world is not paying attention at all.

Some facts about this topic: - Only 7 pages, less than 8 hours before the game, same as an avarage EPL game. - Most active members are brazilians. This speaks loud about this tournament. Only south americans teams gives a shit about it. Its really sad to see a club like Corinthians thinking this is the most important match in their story, because this tournament is really shit, every single game was garbage, both semi-finals were awful. In the first one we had bad football by both teams, the other there was only one team playing, and the stadium was half empty and with a cold atmosphere. A journalist from Brazil is in London right now, and he was impressed about the lack of interest. He went to a pub near Stamford Bridge, and he found 5 people watching Chelsea vs Monterey: 3 mexicans supporting Monterey, and a norweagian couple suppoting Chelsea. After the game he asked a Chelsea's employee near SB about the final result, then he replied: "there is no one playing right now".