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  1. Real Madrid, PSG, Atletico Madrid (to a point) and eventually, when they unfuck themselves, Barca again as well
  2. Chelsea closing in on Jorrel Hato deal https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6512846/2025/07/28/jorrel-hato-Chelsea-transfer/ By David Ornstein July 28, 2025 Chelsea are closing in on a deal to sign Jorrel Hato from Ajax. An agreement between the clubs has yet to be reached but is nearing, with a compromise expected in the coming days on a price worth more than €40million (£34.8m; $46.7m). Personal terms are already in place for the 19-year-old Netherlands international defender. Chelsea opened discussions with Ajax over a move for Hato earlier this month. Arsenal had previously identified Hato as a defensive target in January 2024, before he signed a new five-year contract with Ajax last summer. What You Should Read Next Meet Jorrel Hato, the Ajax teenager tracked by Arsenal: ‘I want to achieve big things’ From last September: The Netherlands defender is trying to return his club to the top of the Eredivisie, attracting big-club attention along the way Hato, who has made 111 first-team appearances for Ajax and has captained the side, featured primarily as a left-back in 2024-25 but also played as a centre-back. Capped six times at senior international level by the Netherlands, he joined Ajax’s academy in 2018 from Sparta Rotterdam and has been a fixture in the first team since making his debut in January 2023. Chelsea have already signed Liam Delap, Joao Pedro and Jamie Gittens this summer, alongside the arrivals of players on pre-existing agreements including Estevao, Dario Essugo, Mamadou Sarr and Kendry Paez. Kepa Arrizabalaga, Noni Madueke and Djordje Petrovic are among the players to have left Stamford Bridge permanently this month. Hato a top defensive prospect Analysis by Andy Jones and Mark Carey Hato is one of the hottest defensive prospects in Europe, having played regularly for Ajax for the last two seasons. Graduating from the Ajax academy, he is technically gifted and confident in possession. He is used to being in a ball-dominant side and he is not afraid to be adventurous with the ball at his feet both through dribbling or using his passing range. For context, only PSV Eindhoven’s Richy Ledezma posted a better pass completion rate than Hato’s 89 per cent among Eredivisie full-backs last season. At such a young age, he is still growing into his body and that will only benefit him defensively, an area he is good in but has room to improve — he is a solid one-on-one defender, reads the game well but does not dominate aerially. David Ornstein joined The Athletic in October 2019 after 12 years as a sports journalist and correspondent at the BBC. In the role of Football Correspondent, he is responsible for producing exclusive and original stories and interviews, offering unique insight and analysis. He works across video, audio and the written word. Follow David on Twitter @David_Ornstein
  3. indeed I did not I blundered 😕
  4. I am not a bro, and yes, I missed that, oopsie
  5. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lol Cucuwell ffs 😊
  6. IF we are stupid enough to see CuCu then we HAVE to quickly close out Hato plus buy another LB (as we are selling the no-go anyway Chilwell and thus would have NO LBs on our team if CuCu goes and Chilwell is sold) so Hato (a MUST buy) and then one of the following Andrea Cambiaso (will be crazy expensive, and Juve do not want to sell him, they told Citeh to fuck off) Antonee Robinson (love him, BUT he turns 28yo in 11 days) Tyrick Mitchell Miguel Gutiérrez we will deffo be weaker with Hato and say Mitchell that we would be with CuCu and Hato
  7. £60m for the best defensive LB on the planet??????? fuck that X account cunt why the FUCK would we sell CuCu at a LOSS??? these people are rotters and fools and trolls on edit I fucked up and missed that is was Chilly in disguise sorry
  8. if you sign them both to 7 year contracts at a combined wage of say around £500K PW that is £182m gross in wages over 7 years PLUS around £225m or so in transfer fees etc for both so a total outlay of £407m if their combined wages are £600K PW then the total wage bill over 7 years is £218.4m so a fee + wage total of £443.4m madness
  9. as all know I wanted Chevalier badly but yet ANOTHER 'buy him!' wants lost to the French twats (it is amazing really how many of my 'buy hims' they have hoovered up just the ones still there: Gianluigi Donnarumma (from AC Milan days, when he came on a free) Marquinhos (wanted to buy him for ages, after he was already there) Nuno Mendes Achraf Hakimi Joao Neves Vitinha Warren Zaïre-Emery (he is a PSG academy player, but I so so wanted to buy him from them) Khvicha Kvaratskhelia Bradley Barcola Ousmane Dembélé Désiré Doué
  10. UEFA will be all over us anyway because.......... we are Chels plus they HATE KSA
  11. yes prime Mane ALL DAY over prime Diaz peak Mane was special for years
  12. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40926392/Chelsea-make-joao-felix-11th-signing-transfer-window Aug 21, 2024 Chelsea have signed João Félix on a permanent transfer from Atlético Madrid, the London club announced on Wednesday. The forward has put pen to paper on a seven-year contract. Sources have told ESPN that the clubs agreed a deal worth in the region of €50 million ($55.4m), including add-ons. Atlético will retain a 20% share of any future fee that the player generates in a transfer away from Chelsea.
  13. weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee England Women just beat Spain on pens Back To Back Euro Champions
  14. no, he is on £202K PW PSG want to keep him at the same total pay packet BUT lower the base pay and make the rest performanced-based
  15. https://sports.yahoo.com/article/donnarumma-demands-obstacle-serie-return-131700664.html PSG prepare lower wage for Donnarumma as top clubs prepared to offer more The reports suggest that PSG are not prepared to offer Donnarumma the same €12 million per season (£202K PW gross) that he currently earns as a part of his contract. Instead, it is being suggested that the Parisian side will offer €8-9 million base salary with the other €3-4 million tied to individual and club performance objectives. In much the same way that the Ligue 1 side are not willing to give the Italian the base €12 million per season, most Serie A clubs will also struggle to meet this figure. Which is why, as per the reports, big clubs in the rest of Europe are currently leading the race.
  16. fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  17. Meet Ibrahim Rabbaj, 15-year-old English Chelsea wonderkid compared to Messi with 52 goals and 60 assists in 40 games https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/31300099/ibrahim-rabbaj-Chelsea-wonderkid-messi-goals/ Published: 25 Oct 2024
  18. Alexander Isak could cost £250m to sign. This is why – and who could afford it https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6513565/2025/07/25/alexander-isak-transfer-cost-finances/ Alexander Isak wishing to leave Newcastle United is one thing; working out who could afford to buy him is quite another. Newcastle hope any serious transfer fee conversation will start at the mind-boggling figure of £150million ($203m). To put that into context, it would make Isak the third most expensive footballer in history, behind Paris Saint-Germain recruits Neymar and Kylian Mbappe. The field of possible destinations looks slim. Even ignoring the football factors, the financials in play are huge and an obvious barrier to entering the Isak market. Buying Isak for £150m is more like a £171m transfer once we add in some estimated agent fees and, if the buyer is a Premier League club, a four per cent transfer levy. From a profit and sustainability rules (PSR) perspective, spread over a five-year deal, those fees alone would add £33m-35m to a club’s costs. Then there are Isak’s wages. His exact demands are unknown but given his status as one of the world’s leading players a range of £250,000 to £300,000 a week is far from unreasonable. At that level, the hit to a club would be £15m-£18m annually. Essentially, it’s fair to say signing Isak would lump £50m in annual costs onto his new club — and that’s just from an accounting perspective. It’s often forgotten that clubs will need to pay the money in cash eventually and, over our hypothetical five-year deal, Isak would probably cost a new suitor more than £250m. Plainly, that rules a lot of teams out. But can anyone afford it? What You Should Read Next Alexander Isak’s transfer options assessed: Liverpool? PSG? Al Hilal? Examining where the Newcastle striker could look after telling his club he wishes to explore a move away Serie A In Italy, Juventus have lost around £670m in the past four years. Both Milan and Inter are recovering financially but the fee for Isak would be more than two-fifths of their most recently published revenues. Napoli, Serie A winners last season, have posted impressive profits recently and boasted a strong cash position at last check. They would be the most feasible Italian suitor yet still an unlikely one; their most recent wage bill was lower than Newcastle’s. Bundesliga In Germany, Eintracht Frankfurt’s heady player sales have imbued them with cash and regulatory headroom but signing up to a commitment like Isak is fanciful. Their 2023-24 revenues were £213m, so his signing would cost over 70 per cent of annual turnover. Borussia Dortmund’s wage bill in the same season, when they reached the Champions League final, was only around £12m higher than Newcastle’s, so meeting Isak’s demands seems unlikely even with the club on a generally sound footing. Dortmund weren’t expected to spend much this summer and have already spent their Club World Cup earnings on Jobe Bellingham and Yan Couto. Bayern Munich are a possible option, but success in their other plans, like getting Luis Diaz from Liverpool, would reduce that likelihood. The German champions are the fifth-highest-earning club in world football, according to Deloitte, and consistently profitable, generating a £135m pre-tax surplus in the past five seasons. Bayern Munich have targeted Luis Diaz at Liverpool (Paul Ellis/AFP via Getty Images) Financially, Bayern are one of the few clubs who could afford Isak — they showed as much by being realistic contenders for the signature of Florian Wirtz earlier this summer. But the fact they are prioritising other targets would slim the chances of a deal for Isak. Ligue 1 In France, like with most big-name players these days, only PSG could afford him. They are unencumbered by lax financial rules at home and have enjoyed huge income from the Champions League and Club World Cup recently. Wages fell with the departure of Mbappe last year, but they remain big spenders. Compliance abroad is trickier — PSG are in a ‘settlement regime’ with UEFA until the end of this season, so there are some limitations on their spending. Still, moving on someone like the unwanted Randal Kolo Muani would feasibly open a space for Isak, both in the squad and in terms of remaining within any financial rules. Cash tends not to be a problem in the French capital. La Liga In Spain, Barcelona are having enough trouble making room to register players they’ve already signed. Atletico Madrid just about break even but have high debts to service and, based on most recent figures, the amortisation cost of signing Isak would be more than half their total amortisation bill. They’ve spent big (£65m) on Julian Alvarez since those figures were released, but that in itself likely rules them out of being able to enter the market at over double Alvarez’s price. Julian Alvarez joined Atletico last summer (Oscar Del Pozo/AFP via Getty Images) Real Madrid tend to be able to afford just about anyone and recently announced 2024-25 revenues of €1.2billion (£1.0bn), the largest in the world. Even with Mbappe’s huge wage coming onboard, Madrid were profitable last season, to the tune of €24m (£20m) after tax. Even so, they have pressing needs elsewhere, and there are only so many huge salaries you can take at once. Real have already spent just shy of £150m in transfer fees alone already this summer, and doubling that again looks unlikely, even for them. It’s not impossible, but it is improbable. Premier League And so, what of England? The world’s richest league is naturally the one where clubs could most realistically afford Isak, though even here he’d be limited for actual choice. Tottenham Hotspur have the PSR headroom but unlikely the cash or space on the wage bill, which is kept notoriously low relative to income, and especially as they’re already spending this summer. Further south, as we detailed in June, Brighton & Hove Albion have much in the way of regulatory headroom but are plainly an unrealistic option. That same piece outlined Chelsea as, ludicrously to some, the club with the greatest scope to spend from a PSR perspective. They don’t want for cash, having received not far shy of £1bn from their current owners, but this deal, alongside their other activity this summer, would be pushing things. Particularly as Chelsea are in their own UEFA settlement regime, and the impact of recent intra-group asset sales won’t boost their PSR calculations forever. Chelsea are already in the position of needing to sell players to free up space on their Champions League squad list and, in any case, it’s unclear how Isak’s salary would line up at a club where there’s been a concerted (albeit sometimes overstated) effort to reduce staff costs. Arsenal were long viewed as a viable landing spot for Isak, but the imminent signing of Viktor Gyokeres casts clear doubt on that. Even without Gyokeres, they have spent over £100m already this summer, albeit after a lean year last season (net spend: £20.9m). Arsenal probably could afford the £50m annual cost of signing Isak, especially as revenues continue to rise, but their activity this summer (both completed and pending) would mean they’d very much be pushing toward their limit by doing so. Viktor Gyokeres has already signed for Arsenal (Carlos Costa/AFP via Getty Images) Manchester City have plenty of money and PSR headroom, even after spending some £300m or more since the turn of the year. They could afford Isak, having booked nearly £200m in profit in the past three seasons. Football reasons seem a more likely impediment to moving there. Across town, Manchester United have been heavily loss-making in recent years but, as The Athletic detailed in June, their PSR losses are much lower than previously thought. United remain the fourth-highest-earning club in the world and have undertaken significant cost-cutting over the past year. From a PSR perspective, they may well be able to stretch to someone like Isak, even without Champions League football this year. But cash is another issue. United’s transfer debts were over £300m net even before the recent signings of Matheus Cunha and Bryan Mbeumo, and their need to sell players this summer is more cash-focused than rules-based. To that end, adding Isak’s wage and paying a huge fee to Newcastle looks highly unlikely, and would rely on either a further injection of shares (Sir Jim Ratcliffe invested £238.5m in 2024) or adding to an already hefty debt pile. Remarkably, despite their £300m-plus spend already this summer, Liverpool represent the likeliest Premier League destination for Isak. The Anfield outfit would need to sell players but are already planning to; the departures of Diaz, Darwin Nunez or Harvey Elliott, or even all three, would provide a boost to profits and cash, and help them back toward the policy of sustainability driven by Fenway Sports Group over the past decade and more. Liverpool have been able to spend so much this summer through careful financial management, and it’s exactly that which keeps them in the frame for Isak — even at the huge asking price. It’s a tall ask, even for a club as well managed as they have been, but the conditions to do it really are there: low transfer debt, strong cashflow, surging revenue and saleable assets to help offset the hit both now and in the future. Saudi Pro League Away from the Premier League, the oil-soaked elephant in this particular transfer room is the instance whereby Isak’s overarching employer doesn’t change. Al Hilal are, like Newcastle, owned by the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia and, at the risk of stating the obvious, have no financial worries at all. Since being taken over by PIF in June 2023, Al Hilal have spent over £400m on new signings and goodness knows what more on wages. If they want to sign Isak, they can afford to. The financials would be easy from Al Hilal’s perspective, and while selling to a club of such supreme wealth might comfort Newcastle fans in the knowledge they’ll get a chunky fee for Isak, the reality is more nuanced. Under Premier League rules, any sale to a fellow PIF-owned club would require a ‘fair market value assessment’. In other words, if the league deemed the fee spent by Al Hilal excessive, Newcastle would have to revise down their profit on Isak in their PSR calculation. The ramifications of a move to Saudi Arabia would be even worse on the continental stage. Under UEFA rules, player sales between related parties — which Newcastle and Al Hilal are — have to be measured at zero profit (or a loss), just as Allan Saint-Maximin’s move to Al Ahli in July 2023 was. Isak could be sold to Al Hilal for £150m and Newcastle would enjoy the cash, but under UEFA rules, they’d be disallowed from booking any profit — thus doing nothing to improve their ability to remain compliant on the European stage.
  19. From €127m star to €20m flop - the remarkable rise and fall of João Félix https://www.transfermarkt.com/from-euro-127m-star-to-euro-20m-flop-the-remarkable-rise-and-fall-of-joao-felix/view/news/457478 Most players typically welcome the opportunity to thrust their profile into the public limelight when they make a transfer from one club to another, but few would begrudge João Félix from avoiding such attention when he inevitably leaves Chelsea in this summer’s transfer window. Because, much like his entire career to date, the Portuguese forward’s time at Stamford Bridge has largely been one of frustration and failure. And, once again, Félix has struggled to live up to the hype or indeed the transfer fee that was placed on him. According to reports in Portugal, the 25-year-old talent is set to return to Benfica in a deal that would see the Liga Portugal club pay €20 million for 50 percent of the forward’s “rights”. Should Benfica ultimately pay the full €40m to make the move permanent, it would take the total transfer fees paid for Félix over the course of his career to a staggering €236m - placing him above Ousmane Dembélé (€220m) and behind only Cristiano Ronaldo (€247m), Romelu Lukaku (€369m) and Neymar (€400m) on the list of players that have had the highest amount of transfer fees spent on them over the course of their careers. Indeed, when we flick through the pages of Félix’s career we can see that it has been one dominated by big moves and the player struggling to live up to any of them. For example, in 2019 the young forward swapped Benfica for Atlético Madrid for an astronomical fee of €127.2m - which remains the fifth biggest transfer fee ever paid for a player in the history of the sport. However, Félix certainly didn’t live up to that fee by any means and as we can see in the timeline of his market value, after it quickly shot up to a career high of €100m it began to then steadily fall as his performances for the Spanish side offered little to suggest that he was worth the hype. By the time Félix departed the club to join Chelsea on loan in January of 2023, his market value had halved to just €50m. And it was only going to continue going down. Despite a much-heralded move to Barcelona promising a restart for the Portuguese star, it did little for his market value as it continued to drop. And by the time Atlético were prepared to finally cash in on Félix in the summer of 2024 his market value had dropped to €30m. Although the fee Chelsea ended up paying for Félix was less than half that paid by Atleti five years prior, it still hung around the forward’s neck like an albatross. And since then he’s struggled to even live up to a relatively paltry fee of €52m. As we can see in the graphic above, which shows the player’s goals and assists in league competitions over the course of his career, Félix’s fundamental problem has been an inability to perform in Spain, England or Italy as well as he did in Portugal. Injuries have certainly played their part. Ankle injuries ruled the forward out for much of the 19/20 season and then again in the 21/22 campaign when he missed a total of 20 games. However, that doesn’t excuse the fact that the forward has typically averaged around half the goal contributions he achieved in his final season at Benfica in each of the following six seasons. As such, a move back to Benfica perhaps makes perfect sense for Félix. Despite the astronomical fees spent on him and the best attempts of no less than four of Europe’s biggest clubs, the Portuguese forward has simply failed to be the player he promised to be when he left his home nation in 2019. Maybe, once European football has moved on and the limelight is firmly behind Félix, he can get back to doing what he did so well in Portuguese football for the club that turned him into a world star.
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