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In 27 years 13 Championships. Mourinho: 5 seasons 3 Championships. Jose Mourinho isn't doing so bad, is he?! I don't want to say who is the best, they all are very good managers. Ferguson did it time and time again, kudos to him, but his European record isn't that good so every person has his weak spot. The thing which is laughable here (imo) is that some people call their own people fanboys just because they like their manager. Everyone who doesn't get in line is just a fanboy or the media is shit, what about freedom of opinion?!

I hope it's better suited in here, complain, if not. The Pastore thread is now closed, i checked it out. You have shown time and time again that you posses great football knowledge. It's safe to claim that you watched Pastore more than i did. I didn't follow him match by match, sometimes i watched him play, but that's it. Let's get right into it. I think the first season of Pastore, the boy just turned 21, he was the real deal. He was their center of the play and lived up to the hype, imo. Scoring 13 goals, getting 6 assists in the league was great. Yes, sometimes he went underground, but he could cut it. Therefore Paris fans wrote a song about him, Paris fell in love with him, imo. The problem was Paris didn't win jack shit back then and after buying more big players he wasn't the center of attention anymore. Until the end of 2014 his time wasn't that glorious anymore, Ancelotti's christmas wasn't good for him, some labeled him a flop, he needed time to figure shit out. He is 26 now so there is time left for him to rise. I think his transfer has already been worth the effort. I think you got a point here; at times one can get the impression that he is sometimes a bit lazy. He is lightweight, so the approach to the game has to be adjusted for him. Back in the day when the boy was just a 21 freshman, a tougher (more physical) league could have done some good to the boy. The term "El Flaco" doesn't come out of thin air. You have already said it, he has worked on his off the ball movements, but it could have happened earlier, lack of world class facilities and man-management are here to blame for, imo. For me, bulking up and becoming a harder worker are things you can learn. Masterful vision and great dribbling abilities not, at least not when you're older. That's a god-given gift, imo. During a game the players interchange passes as wells as positions. Mata and Pastore wouldn't have been riveted to one spot, they would have changed their positions more than once. If i remember correctly, in the games against Chelsea Pastore often came from outside, put in some nice crossings and his goal was pure gold. For me he could have been a success a Chelsea, but the environment has to be right. At that time, it wasn't

If we really want him, we'll get him. I can agree with this, friend. David Luiz will be all over the place, bad mouthing like an old blabbermouth, will it be enough? Don't think so, Willian is our super weapon, he will shut him up once and for all in this case. I'm sorry but i disagree with you. At that time, i think it was around 2011, Chelsea cried their eyes out for an creative winger, imo. Teaming up with Mata would have worked some wonders, imo, but maybe we wouldn't have bought Eden Hazard. I choose Eden Hazard all day long. I don't get the point, why he didn't fit into Chelsea at that time? Back in the day, Pastore was ~22 years old and looking for the next step as well as others had done it before him. The physical aspect can't be the point, because of guys like David Silva. What was so different between him and Mata? Mata fitted in nicely, i think. I didn't watch most of the PSG matches, but from what i have seen and heard, Pastore has been worth the money. Cantona: PSG fan: They fuckin' love and admire him. Not because of his looks, i must say. Is Lucas reliable? A lot of times i tried to watch a PSG game, he was hurt. I think Ibrahimovic's time at PSG will come to an end, it won't take such a long time. Put Cavani upfront, there you have the room for Teixeira.

It's Pastore all over again, they really don't like us... [emoji30]

I'm not only dreaming of James, there are other guys too. I think we'll get someone, whom, i don't know. You're right, it shouldn't become an addiction, but that's far away. Just football. For me, there's nothing wrong with having a little dream, makes it easier to fall asleep at night or a short getaway to go through the day. Just contrary views, not the first time. Life continues...

A man can dream, especially during Christmas, never take that away, there is a little boy inside every man, never forget!

Don't be the grinch, pls.

Maybe we can get Benteke. I think Klopp prefers a different type of striker and Benteke would be the ideal target man for Mourinho and he could get the best out of Costa, imo. Moreover he's friends with Hazard. Gundogan is a very good player, but don't you think that Mourinho would field him as a number 10 like he did with Modric? If Loftus-Cheek can't up his game, maybe we should take a look at Kondogbia, but haven't seen him this often so far. Baba is getting better and better, age is his friend, but Terry's not. I would go again for Stones. Offer big money and some prospects. Another transfer request, disaster for the them all over again, have fun. Maybe we stand a chance this time.

What a buy that would be. If it's possible, sign him up. For me, he's a lot more efficient than Isco. Very intelligent, i think he has a degree in engineering. Big statement, if we get him. I think all the Blues must send a present to Benitez for making it happen. Kind of an inside job. [emoji4]

Should have been more precise with his first chance. That was a big one, sloppy shot, imo.Otherwise i agree with you, haven't seen much this season, but from what i have seen, best performance, imo.

For me, there was no physical contact between Casillas and Costa. Casillas faked it and tried to get Costa send off, absolute disgraceful behaviour, but nothing new, i never bought the nice guy image. So glad we threw him out of the CL, does not deserve anything.

drama, baby, drama The media will use it, that's for sure.

@stroey now we have reached the knockout stages, so one thing less to worry about. It's happening... Seriously, i'm not a superstitious person, but in this case, i really like to think so. Great read, as always, pleasure talking with you, Johnny.

One player flies under the radar, imo. WHAT ABOUT THAT BELGIAN DUDE IN GOAL? Thank fuck we have signed him up, he is really that good, standout performance, he gives our defense so much security and seems unbeatable. I like you, Begovic, i don't want to tarnish your great service so far, but Courtois is on another level. No one will like to play against him, he is like Neuer, great to have you back, Sir.

Credit were Credit is due. You have been proved right! Fabregas was the problem, keep him out!

Fuckin' happy right now. The smile is back, everyone seems happy. The swag is back, great performance, very well done. Costa unlucky, but made the necessary runs and was in the right position. Hope it continues...

You're completely right, a troll tricked me and i fall for it. We have already settled the issue, no problem mate.

delete.

No fucks should be given, nothing will change. Let us enjoy the community abroad, don't get angry, it's not worth the trouble. Back to topic: Will Mourinho go with experience? Biggest game so far. We could end up like this: ......................Diego Hazard........Willian.......Pedro... ............Matic..........Fabregas Azpilicueta...Terry...Cahill...Ivanovic .....................Courtois After the presser my impression is that Mourinho is seriously unhappy with all of his strikers which includes Remy. Maybe Costa won't play, but if not today, when will he? I hope Oscar is on the bench, can't handle Fabregas and Oscar, at least one of them has to take the place on the bench, imo.

Mate, it's all about the definition; the match took place in the Premier League and therefore i think i'm not wrong saying that things never change. Yes, one can see it differently, like i said: matter of definition! It's like math; some people include the zero in the natural numbers others don't. Yes, everyone perceives a whole match differently. For you, the match against Newcastle "felt like a loss". For me, when the team is already 2:0 down and still gets the draw in the end, moral victors. Both parties have made their valid points, i think. Agree to disagree, it won't be the last time. Yes, we lose, yes, we hardly score from open play, yes some players still have problems to play to their potential. But in my point of view, we create more and more chances to win the game, but the strikers fail miserably. Remy is a good poacher, but that miss against Stoke, you can't make that shit up, i call it very very and again very unlucky. For me, winning is the end result, before that can become a consistency, more things have to be fixed. Before Benteke scored the 3:1, in my opinion we were already broken, the mentality "yes we can" was gone. Maybe i'm a bit too optimistic but i think that has changed, but that's subjective feelings, a judge would rule that one out. Hazard couldn't score a single goal so far but that is on him. He had the chances, couldn't finish them off. In my point of view, Hazard's play has never been about goals, he keeps opponents busy and makes room for his mates, he is able to make some brilliant passes, isn't on sunday league level when it comes to defending, imo and so on. I think apart from his goals, that area of his stats look quite empty this season, you're right, he is better than at the start of the season. He's manning up (again) and takes on defenders, he leads the attacking line and doesn't back down easily, imo. He's still not perfect, still holding on too long to the ball, sometimes too slow backwards and so on, but he will be fine, imo. Maybe i'm too optimistic, don't know. But getting it half-right doesn't exlude you from earning credit points, some points must be awarded! When a player doesn't perform over more than a handful games to his standard, he can't complain when being dropped. But the coach has to have reasonable backups. Hell, Van Gaal substituted two Champions-League winners against Wolfsburg who were not injured (imo) for a newbie and an old guy, that's utter madness, imo. Avb did make those "jokes", leaving Drogba on the bench and playing Lukaku against Manchester United, lol. Remy missed a sitter against Stoke, he isn't that familiar staying on -and offside, imo. Furthermore he offers very little apart from goals and sometimes runs .Okay, that's very important, but when playing he isn't scoring for fun, is he? Maybe his confidence has been destroyed over the season, he should have played more, i give you that. Alright. Ivanovic was at fault for the goal from Bournemouth, that's on Jose. Would have Baba or Kenedy made the same mistake? You never know. Fabregas has been shit for quite some time. Mourinho should have awarded Loftus-Cheek more playing time during pre-season and all would be better. Otherwise, Mikel and Ramires (who hasn't been fit over the season so far) aren't much better. We can play a game: who has been worse, Oscar or Fabregas?! Exactly, shit or shit, difficult to decide. Maybe you have a point: Instead of playing Fabregas we should have fielded Loftus-Cheek. The jury is still out, we'll see, but i get your point. During a season there won't be any preparation time. Most likely, because immediate success is important, the newly promoted head coach will go with the old guard. Maybe not, we'll never know, but guys like Di Matteo did exactly what again? At the moment we're in big trouble; most people envy the club, imo, and really like to stick it to us. As i have said before: Real Madrid or Chelsea 2014, but because of social media (trollfootball and so on) it's all about the bus. During these desperate times, it's difficult to do the flicks and make a charming smile. I have to defend him a bit, sorry. Yes, you see it differently, agree to disagree. When we lose, it can be a soap opera, because Jose Mourinho doesn't take any prisoners and sometimes he crosses the line. But why does he behave this way? Some might say, because he loves the spotlight so much, but for me it's different, why? He cares so much, he is just a fan like me or you, maybe rather than me because i'm a very bad loser too. (that's why he's one of us, imo). Especially in the heat of the moment bad shit happens, everyone knows that from sunday league football, is that enough for an excuse? No, sometimes an animal must be put into his place, i think people like Marina must be ruthless sometimes, but apart from that?! I really get your attitude and frustration, but i'm backing my man 100%, not because of being a "Mourinhonista", no, but rather because i'm absolutely in love with the idea of having a man around who is impulsive and always looking out for Chelsea's best interests and speaks clearly that one (for example the referee) isn't allowed to fuck with Chelsea. You can't buy that behaviour, why? I respect Luis Suarez for his skillset and for being ambitious (the idea of getting a particular girl made him the man he is today) honorable, imo. But after the incident with Ivanovic, Benitez didn't give one flying fuck, no matter what you think of Benitez, unacceptable, he didn't stood up for one of our own, because he doesn't even care. But at Liverpool he was saying nasty stuff like plastic flags. So it's nice to have a man who cares so much, yes he is making mistakes, but he is a try-hard and i respect that. Kenedy is already getting games, so it's possible to play for a newbie. I'm not working at Chelsea Football Club, Bayern Munich is searching engineers, but when it's not blue, it will be, so fuck that. Back to topic, Kenedy is getting time, Loftus-Cheek and Traore must be doing some things wrong or still not good enough, which isn't a shame. It all leads to one simple question: what was there first? hen or chicken? What is it all about? Is it about "learning by doing during matches" and you will become a star, or is it about training first then playing the match where one can retrieve the skills? Any memories of the end of Pep's reign at Barcelona? Yes, Pep said stuff like a cycle had come to an end and so on, have we got any believers? It's a big speculation; frankly, i can only speak for myself, i think Pep had fallen out with a lot of players, i thought that's only a Jose thing?! Irrelevant, the point is one big name caugt my eye: Lionel Messi. It has been reported at that time that he was unhappy with Pep and his methods, he didn't want to leave, but unhappy. For me, from the distance Messi has always been a difficult guy to handle, i never bought in the "nice guy" image. In any case the connection between the two cooled down a bit, yes, maybe it's better now, but at most professional, not like Ferguson and Ronaldo, father and son, big speculation in my point of view, i have to admit! Pep Guardiola knows that winning is important, but at least for the public he says it's all about the beautiful game and philosophy, imo. Jose Mourinho is different, imo, it's all about winning for him, yes he is able to set up nicely, but winning at all costs, the winner takes it all! Maybe Messi is fed up and wants to try a different path, because for Messi it's about winning too, no fucks given. After big losses, he spends most of the night alone in the dressing room and crying is little soul out because he can't take it (been reported). I think he totally respects Jose Mourinho and his attitude, so i honestly think Lionel Messi could choose Mourinho over a revival with Pep. Of course it depends on the cirumstances. Conclusion: You called me out, i know that putting pen to paper often means a lot of effort and i don't want to be the fucker who doesn't show any appreciation for it. So i expressed my views and feelings. I can agree with you on some things, but others, there is no agreement possible for now, but that can change, both ways, i think. Kudos to stroey, Johnny, Fulham Broadway and others who approached me and thanked me for some posts. As i have said before i won't leave for good, but writing in other communities more often. So long!

Someone has to be first and start building a philosophy. Rom wasn't build in a day either. Bayern Munich haven't been playing this way over decades, they adapted to that in recent times. How can you make that happen? You have to trust the manager. Last season, i think it was during December, most of the Cules wanted Enrique gone, but the club stood by him and look what happened?! Not so bad, i think. Barca did change their manager often, you're right, but that doesn't mean that everyone had to do the same to be successful. You throw in some very huge words: "attractive" and "positive" football. It's not that simple, Real Madrid wants to play like that since ages, but it's a bit more complicated, i think. Jose Mourinho is able to deliver these things, Real Madrid one of the best attacking teams in the league's history and Chelsea 2014. Before Klopp took over Dortmund, they played differently, Klopp implemented his style of play. But as it has already been said, you must trust the (proven) manager. Dortmund was after 55% of the played games in the league last at the end of the table, but finally reached 7th. Furthermore Klopp stayed for 7 years in Dortmund, that's stability. Tuchel plays different football, now they are changing their way of execution. Everyone knows Arsenal and immediately Arsene Wenger comes into mind. That's exactly what i and other Blues want to have with Jose Mourinho. Arsenal is an extreme example, but over 8 years they won nothing, but they recovered and recently won 2 FA Cups. But at Chelsea 4 months bad months seem to be enough to kick their once loved man out the door, very very sad. You rightly criticised the indecisiveness when it comes to Chelsea's philosophy. The most important part is for me that it takes time. Now we have Mourinho, so we can stick with him, he already identified his core. Costa, Fabregas, Hazard, Willian, Matic, Azpilicueta, Zouma, Baba, Courtois and so on. Some more ingredients and we're more than good to go to win everything, imo. But some bad spells have to be allowed, it's not always bright and sunny in the world, not Disney World. But we won against the Le Arse, some things never change. I think you're a bit confused, we didn't lose to Newcastle United, we went 2 down and then leveled, good comeback. I get your point; lost against the likes of Palace, Saints, Hammers, Potters and so on, shouldn't have happened but it did and we have to deal with it. As i said, we grinded out points against the Yids, Toons, Gooners, Hawthorns and so on, so we'll make it with Jose Mourinho, imo. I think we're getting stronger and stronger, i call the performance against Bournemouth unlucky, we had the chances, the rest will come. The goal against us was pure luck, the defense was unorganized, it happens. It's always the same, Mourinho doesn't change a thing, criticism, but when he does and bench Costa, no striker, very bad. You can't please everybody! I agree with Mourinho that throwing in some 18-19 years old during this desperate times aren't the right thing to do, too much negativity. Maybe we won't win against Porto and Leicester, you can think so. But with another coach it's not a guaranteed win either, you can't expect one thing in life apart from death. Sad, when you don't watch Chelsea anymore because of losing, no matter what's happening, always show up for the club, i can't demand the style of play, i have to be grateful and show respect, but i can only speak for myself. Nothing better than going out and jeering to your beloved club, no matter what others say or how bad the style of play is. Some people say being fan of top team doesn't make you a "real" fan, because you never experience true agony, after some years wins against promoted teams have become very difficult, so it's a reminder how blessed we were. Now the world see us sweat, but so what, we'll keep fighting and protecting our team, manager and club. Why won't a top player come to Chelsea in the future? Because of one bad season? Maybe if we fire Jose Mourinho and hire someone unknown, but with Jose Mourinho, most players want to play for him. Even a guy like Lionel Messi respects him and speaks highly of him. You have your reasons, i and others see it differently. Mourinho perfectly explained some time ago what happened at his previous stations and most of the time, he won something. You can't deny his talent for building a dynasty, when it's the first time he tries it. Recently i have read an article about Marina Granovskaia, she seems to fully trust Jose Mourinho, so we all know what this means, we're blessed! Final words: Overall, i'm getting fed up by this constant negativity around here, it seems i'm the only one since the departures of iceboy and others who is defending one of our own. Mourinho certainly has his flaws, but accusing him of doing it on purpose and the payout, not changing the lineup, insulting him and no one gives a fuck, denying his talent and so on goes way too far, imo. Some are mixing jokes with ISIS and Mourinho, more than crossing a line, imo. Even some of the hardcore Mancs speak some sense, but on here it's worse but it should be a goddamn Chelsea Community. It seems Babs hasn't been wrong with her criticism, although i disagree with her proposed methods. I won't leave this community for good, but spend most of the time elsewhere. It's a win win for everyone; i can live happily ever after and here the crucifixion and wankfest can continue, less interruption caused by me. Cheers.

I find it quite interesting how a lot people are going on about a possible deadline. I have seen it all before, if he loses the next match gone, but nothing happened. But it seems that it doesn't get boring.

Sorry mate, you're one of the bosses around here, but please show some respect and don't joke around with this subject. You know what they're doing, not funny. A few day ago it was all over Dailymail.

Bang on the money! Great post, would love to read more from you. Sick of seeing some people calling others out just because they know best.

He deserves his share of the criticism, but criticism and firing are two different shoes. After cutting ties i think he is gone for good. I said before that till January, if we lose all of the upcoming games, maybe his time has come. We'll have to discuss it then, different situation. Jose Mourinho wanted to experience different cultures, he could have picked the easy way and stayed in Porto; beautiful blue chair, the Uefa Champions League trophy and an exciting young squad. At Chelsea, he delivered big time, but not good enough for the owner. Inter, he switched (his decision) and Real Madrid; how many managers stayed there for long? At least he gave young players a chance; Khedira, Özil, Varane, Callejon and so on. It's okay to think differently, but it's not black and white, it's impossible to make a binary assessment, imo. For me, the greatest manager of all time: Sir Alex Ferguson: