Starman60

I am just reading what you wrote here that "Mikel-Ramires would be good enough defensively". I see what you're saying, but do you not think that this would be a step backwards? Only last season we were calling for both these players to be sold off, especially Mikel. It just highlights the hugh problems within the club when we are looking to these two players to pull us out of the mire. I still have faith in Matic and I think it's Fabregas who has really unsettled the midfield. Loftus-Cheek alongside Matic I think should be given a run. But realistically, we are not creating chances, not getting shots on target and our individual defensive mistakes are getting punished every time they're made. And our managers stubborn blind loyalty to the system we play and to some players will inevitably cost us and him dearly. Basically no matter who we play in that CM position won't make any difference unless attitudes, desire, commitment and formational changes are made.......and quickly.

I have calmed down a bit now (but not a lot) and on reflection, what did we all really expect. Jose persists in playing the same formation, which clearly doesn't work anymore. He plays the same players match after match, who simply have lost the passion to play for him. I would rather see us lose with players who WANT to play for the club and the jersey. Play the young guns, give them a chance and if we lose so be it and least they will give 100%. What I saw today was a team or should I say was not a team, but a collection of individuals who the vast majority of them couldn't be arsed to play for Jose. In the seventies when we were broke we played with kids, who grew into men in a very short space of time, played exciting football without a care and won us promotion. How I'd love to see that happen again......Sadly that's not Jose's way and I think his blind faith in some members of this current side will inevitable cost him his job.

It's a bloody short slide. We're only outside the bottom four !!!!

Jamie efffing Rednapp is loving this

He can spout all the drivel he likes........Mr Abramovich will have the final word.........He has sacked managers for much less

Mourinho blaming the ref !!!!!WTF.........Jose we are playing rubbish football. No heart, no desire,no passion,no direction, no confidence,, end of.....Wake up man and smellt he roses

Defending was strong, purposeful and everyone knew the game plan The midfield hassled and harried and got the ball forward at pace The centre forward held up the ball, laid it off superbly and had a generally good game. As for Chelsea!!!!!!!!!! Where the fuck would you start.

I wouldn't bet on that either

This is really so sad and so hard to watch

"Hello Mr Klopp, this is Roman Abramovich here. How do you fancy working for me? I have a squad of world class players (allegedly) here who couldn't beat a one legged man in an arse kicking competition.Any chance you might fancy the challenge"

Bye Bye Jose.

How wrong you are !!!! I have a lot more experience of being a manager than Jose has ever, or will ever have as I have managed since the year 2000 or so.. I have managed teams in every division of English football and have won every trophy in English football on many occasions and a couple of European Cups to boot, I have also won the Dutch and Italian leagues...........................And I can't wait for "Football Manager 2016" to come out so I can keep the run going. Sorry Steve, couldn't resist

I was going to say drop Iva, Fabregas, Matic and Pedro, but these are the guys who have put us in this mess, so they should be the ones to get us out of it, starting against Southampton. Bringing in too many changes will not help the team at all. So I've narrowed down my changes to Ivanovich and Pedro. Ivanovich has no speed, confidence or crossing ability so he has to go. And Pedro? The guy just hasn't done it for me and the pace and strength of the Premiership has caught him off-guard. Bring in Baba and Ramires (even though he always has a sending off in him) with Willian, Oscar and Hazard and Remy up front. That's my option 1. Option 2 is probably off the wall but a four-four-two like this Begovic Dave Cahill Zouma Baba Ramires Matic Willian Hazard Remy Falcao If Shane Long doesn't start I think JT might get back in, and I'd start two strikers because we're creating f@ck all with just one up front.......And finally I'd put defenders on the posts for corners like it should be, because two goals from two corners in two games is unacceptable at this level. You might think I'm totally nuts but it wouldn't be any worse than the drivel we have been seeing so far this season

That's two games in a row we concede from a corner. It's time to get back to basics and defend corners like they should be defended, with a man on the post. We really need to sort ourselves out defensively before we can move forward. I would also change Ivanovich's position and give him a totally different role.........Selling f@cking burgers up in the stands in row z. Porto were the better side. We never troubled them in the second half until the last 5 minutes. We lacked ideas, build up was too slow, some of our passing was laughable and we just don't have a cutting edge this season.........The future is blue.......very blue. We dont even look average this season

At the rate we're going you might have a job getting your head out of the house by the end of the season

Have to agree with you mate. OK Newcastle rose their game against us.......WTF did we expect? They were never going to be that bad again and it was the kick up the arse they needed. So against us they were hyped up to improve. But.why cant we up our game? For 75 minutes we played like amateurs. Sloppy passing, no closing down, 1 shot on goal up to that time.Allowed them time on the ball and didn't cover the posts at corners. When we did eventually get our heads out of our arses we played them off the pitch!!!!Why cant we play like that from the start? We are Champions which means every team will raise their game against us and unless we respond in a more positive manner our season is f@cked. And just of thread for a minute, was I seeing things in todays Sun newspaper, that Fabregas was our player picked for the "Dream Team"? Please tell me I misread it

Either did our team in the first 75 minutes

Sorry mate but don't take this the wrong way.....But he's been consistently piss poor this season

I think Mourinho has joined the forum

Who the hell voted Ivanovich for MoM....You gotta be kidding

Fabregas, Matic and Ivanovich must be benched. And while I'm at it, why the fuck dont we defend the posts at corners? Basic stuff, but it works. We play a team who are the joke of the Premiership and we celebrate because we got a draw!!! i'm really pissed off that for 75 minutes they owned us and we only started to play at 2-0 down. If we atarted the way we finished we would have won about 5-0. You're on thin ice Jose.....Sort this shit out.

Aren't we brilliant? Come back to claim a draw. Would we have taken a point before the game?....No fucking way. Only started to play when we were being disgraced at 2-0 down. Not near good enough

Fucking Pedro!!!!!!!!!

75 minutes gone and we have had ONE shot on target.......says it fucking all

You might want to change your "I love Cesc" avitar Barbara !