French plane opens fire in Lybia

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Well its visually obvious what Gadaffi is doing unlike intelligence reports which state words like may and might. It is obvious what he is doing, but the death toll will go up if we did or did not do anything. Unfortuantly that is the harsh realities of military but dont kid yourself that if Gaddafi were to stop the uprising that he would just leave it like that. Unfortuantly he would commit mass killings and crush many in the east for going against his authority.

In truth I would much prefer the Arab league deal with Libya and other problems in the middle east themselves, if they want to prove themselves as a sufficient international organisation. Unfortunatly they are pretty useless and cant do anything without external help - such is the shame.

These mass killings are against armed rebels, civilian deaths are unfortunately a biproduct of conflict but he's not acting unprovoked. These aren't acts of genocide, he's fighting against a rebel army.

Which is exactly what we're doing in the middle east (although we are acting unprovoked), trying to fight the rebels but committing mass killings to civilians in the process.

These double standards are a clear sign of corruption.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

The UN is just as useless as American intervention. They have a track record of screwing things up in any hostile country they go, Rwanda & Somalia come to mind. Their ill-thought sanctions in Iraq led to mass famine, many children died because of sanctions which prevented medical supplies entering! Don't get me started on the stupid food-for-oil plan either.

No. They just kill others who oppose their capitalist views. Look it up, since 1945 the US has attempted to overthrow over 50 foreign governments. South America has suffered tremendously under American intervention because they didn't comply with their agenda. El Salvador, Columbia, Cuba, Venezuela, Brazil, Cambodia.. & the list goes on

Yes I know your political views very well and have had many arguments with it. Unfortuantly the Cold war was a period where both the USA and the Sovient Union wanted to either stop the spread of Capitalism or Comunism. So to say that the US is the only country that overthrows regimes that it does not agree with is totally naive. Like I said world poltics is a complecated issue and every country will have some keen on looking at their own interest. Unfortunatly war is never pretty but as long as their is man there will be conflict.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

These mass killings are against armed rebels, civilian deaths are unfortunately a biproduct of conflict but he's not acting unprovoked. These aren't acts of genocide, he's fighting against a rebel army.

Which is exactly what we're doing in the middle east (although we are acting unprovoked), trying to fight the rebels but committing mass killings to civilians in the process.

These double standards are a clear sign of corruption.

So were you condemning the uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia as rebel armies trying to provoke a dictator? Do you follow Libyan state TV?

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So were you condemning the uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia as rebel armies trying to provoke a dictator? Do you follow Libyan state TV?

I'm not condemning anything, I'm just highlighting the double standards that point towards an agenda.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

I'm not condemning anything, I'm just highlighting the double standards that point towards an agenda.

Well the thing is unlike Iraq, this has full UN backing and the suprise is that countries that would normally stop or slow down the process such as China or Russia have decided to abstain rather then veto it, so make of it what you will.

[Fulham Broadway 16,966]

China and Russia have both abstained because they bump off their own people in Chechnya and Tibet.

Double standards going on here -youre .allowed to kill your own people in Bahrain, Oman , UAE, Saudi --Oh hang on, just a minute, we've got big BAe contracts with them and they supply oil for weapons and torture equipment, rightho......and as for 3 million killed in Congo , well fuck'em theyre not economic consumers.....

[MikeCFC 45]

Well Japan has had it's 15 minutes of fame,all attention turns back to Libya.

Fickle bunch are the media!

[Kez 2,727]

Another pointless war for our soldiers to get involved in and die for no reason

[Madmax 9,219]

Show them oil and the west are on it like flies around shit.

[Fulham Broadway 16,966]

Show them oil and they west are on it like flies around shit.

Mmm. I know !! Lets fire 200 Cruise missiles (costing over £1m each) at ''strategic'' targets at a regime where the leader is a bit ''difficult'' with Africas biggest oil reserves, but ignore slaughter by even more mad despots, but are forthcoming with the oil. Hey we can dress it up as ''humanitarian''.......

''BBBBbuttttt didnt we do that in IRAQ?? ''

''Yeah and we got away with that......in fact wouldnt it be cool if we bombed them on the anniversary day that we attacked Iraq??''

[Madmax 9,219]

Mmm. I know !! Lets fire 200 Cruise missiles (costing over £1m each) at ''strategic'' targets at a regime where the leader is a bit ''difficult'' with Africas biggest oil reserves, but ignore slaughter by even more mad despots, but are forthcoming with the oil. Hey we can dress it up as ''humanitarian''.......

''BBBBbuttttt didnt we do that in IRAQ?? ''

''Yeah and we got away with that......in fact wouldnt it be cool if we bombed them on the anniversary day that we attacked Iraq??''

Man will destroy the planet while fighting over oil/energy/petrochemicals/fossil fuel etc etc