Stingray 9,441 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 our intelligence decreases over time that's why many people say that einstein hasn't made any groundbreaking discoveries after theory of relativity.I mean that we are not as sharp as we were in our childhood.what is your view about that?Not true. Read "50 Great Myths of Popular Psychology: Shattering Widespread Misconceptions about Human Behavior by Scott Lillienfield" for that one. You will love it! Amazing debunking. Backstreet09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 If we follow Darwins theory, intelligence would only improve.Actually we dont know that. Evolution has no direction. The idea of intellectual progress is likely considering our current niche, but does not follow automatically from the neo-darwinian synthesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We have long unchained from natural selection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 As? Nice btw! Research assistant (graduate). Mundaka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Actually we dont know that. Evolution has no direction. The idea of intellectual progress is likely considering our current niche, but does not follow automatically from the neo-darwinian synthesis.Yeh but it would be logical tbh, if you consider our whole history + Darwins idea'sWell got to edit:Have to say Mendel's ideas (thats where he jumps in) -> domination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabHazard 655 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 @stingray thanks for suggesting!yeah i too think its just a myth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Yeh but it would be logical tbh, if you consider our whole history + Darwins idea'sValid point, but from hindsight I think. Defining evolution as generating intellectual progress would mean that it is moving towards a goal. Based on Darwin's theory, evolution only moves to adapt and does not move towards creating a more intelligent species. So it can be known as an improvment in a certain environment and sometimes a specialization in a niche, it is just an adaptation to survive in the enviornment. But as species change so does the enviornment. So evolution is always happening and not towards a goal. Even if we see it that way now lookng back .... Mundaka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We have long unchained from natural selection...At the moment you could say that but really thats kinda in short-term, what if in lets say 500 years our inter glacial period is over and we have a worthy ice age again? (we are in an ice age atm) Stingray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Valid point, but from hindsight I think. Defining evolution as generating intellectual progress would mean that it is moving towards a goal. Based on Darwin's theory, evolution only moves to adapt and does not move towards creating a more intelligent species. So it can be known as an improvment in a certain environment and sometimes a specialization in a niche, it is just an adaptation to survive in the enviornment. But as species change so does the enviornment. So evolution is always happening and not towards a goal. Even if we see it that way now lookng back ....Yeh check my edit Stingray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 LHC @ geneve, while we are talking sience, what do you think of this beauty, was it worth building it? Stingray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Awesome Backstreet09 and Mundaka 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Here's an innocent question from me , After like so many billions upon billions of years, why are we the only species that shows evidence of intelligence in the unique and unparalled way that we do? Why haven’t other species been able to create stuff outside of their immediate instinct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Fuck you guys, now I'm hungry after reading the last page and my fridge is empty. Stingray 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Here's an innocent question from me , After like so many billions upon billions of years, why are we the only species that shows evidence of intelligence in the unique and unparalled way that we do? Why haven’t other species been able to create stuff outside of their immediate instinct?Well you have parots that can talk, bats that use sonar, animals that can fly (which we can't do), we were (very) lucky our intelligence got devoloped that well, and main reason is to be found when we switched from walking on 4leggs, to 2 leggs & 2 hands, that way we could start using weapons/make fire... and we were more and more buzy doing "intellectual" things Backstreet09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 That was really deep mate , uhm and why do we as human beings, want to do more than simply live? How did that feeling develop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mundaka 243 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 That was really deep mate , uhm and why do we as human beings, want to do more than simply live? How did that feeling develop?That's one for stingray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backstreet09 499 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 That's one for stingray Stingray, "The Philospher". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Nooooooooooo .......ll not again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Do you believe that Aliens will someday invade us? If yes, for good or for bad?I want to hear people's opinion outside the physics field... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 @backstreet09Have a blast mate! http://ase.tufts.edu/cogstud/papers/evolerr.htm Backstreet09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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