bombayblue™ 55 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 yes but why sell a player from which you get so much??? players that play for the shirt a few and far my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Cee 50 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 yes but why sell a player from which you get so much??? players that play for the shirt a few and far my friend There is no such players for big clubs. Yes, if you play for next to nothing for your local club then you will play for the shirt, otherwise I don't believe it. Not really, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesthetic Relic 301 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 for everyone who is saying think of the money and crap like that what about the core values of a team? to make a winning team it takes much more than money it takes players that play for the shirt and not for the cash. whoever you would buy from the money from selling J.T. would most likely be a mercenary a player that comes for the money. why not sell other money grabbers isntead??? why sell a player that brings something no one else to the club? Its not a case of just selling him. We have quality defenders within the squad and getting a shit load of cash for JT wouldnt be the end of the world. If we sold Malouda we would need to spend twice the amount we get for him to get a better quality of replacement. If we sold Drogba, we would need to spend what we get for him and then some to get a quality replacement. This doesnt apply to JT I'm afraid. We could spend a fraction of what we could "potentially" get for him and still have a hell of alot money to strengthen the squad. For me Alex is a player who's best suited to replace JT long term IF he was to be sold. PEople said they couldnt play together as they are similar in style. ALex alongside Riccy wouldnt be a bad partner ship. Imo it would be a case of as you were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 There is no such players for big clubs. Yes, if you play for next to nothing for your local club then you will play for the shirt, otherwise I don't believe it. Not really, anyway. that is ridiculous! my club is a perfect example of this, in 2006 my club went down to serie b and many money grabbers left but others stayed, players like alessandro del piero, gigi buffon, pavel nedved just to name a few. now of these players didnt love the shirt and play for it not money would they have stayed??? no, i beleive john terry is much like these players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Its not a case of just selling him. We have quality defenders within the squad and getting a shit load of cash for JT wouldnt be the end of the world. If we sold Malouda we would need to spend twice the amount we get for him to get a better quality of replacement. If we sold Drogba, we would need to spend what we get for him and then some to get a quality replacement. This doesnt apply to JT I'm afraid. We could spend a fraction of what we could "potentially" get for him and still have a hell of alot money to strengthen the squad. For me Alex is a player who's best suited to replace JT long term IF he was to be sold. PEople said they couldnt play together as they are similar in style. ALex alongside Riccy wouldnt be a bad partner ship. Imo it would be a case of as you were. yes but would alex bring the same thing to the club within it? not just on the field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 These whole discussion reminds me of playing chess/monopoly with real people. Thanks that CFC and JT made clear that he won´t left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Cee 50 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 that is ridiculous! my club is a perfect example of this, in 2006 my club went down to serie b and many money grabbers left but others stayed, players like alessandro del piero, gigi buffon, pavel nedved just to name a few. now of these players didnt love the shirt and play for it not money would they have stayed??? no, i beleive john terry is much like these players. No, it isn't. It's realistic. I'm sure they know Juventus would be back up within a year anyway so they didn't left. Would they stay if Juventus weren't allowed to go back to Serie A? The Italian FA could deduct a bucketload of points at the start of the season to make sure you don't go back up. I doubt it they would stay if a club in Serie A wants them, if that was the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesthetic Relic 301 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 yes but would alex bring the same thing to the club within it? not just on the field? We cant keep him forever. Should we get a wax work made of him and keep it in the changing room with a tape recording constantly playing to keep the spirits up in the dressing room for all the players generations from now to be inspired?....*takes a breath* Life moves on...football moves on...Thats a fact. I'm just looking at things with an open mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 No, it isn't. It's realistic. I'm sure they know Juventus would be back up within a year anyway so they didn't left. Would they stay if Juventus weren't allowed to go back to Serie A? The Italian FA could deduct a bucketload of points at the start of the season to make sure you don't go back up. I doubt it they would stay if a club in Serie A wants them, if that was the case. whether they could go back up or not isnt the point, the fact is there are still players that play or the shirt. and whether they could not go back up to serie a is not the point, del piero even stated he would go down to serie c with juve if he had to. im sure players like buffon who are now earning 5-6mil couldnt go to another club and get much much more? but why doesnt he? he must love the club,no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) We cant keep him forever. Should we get a wax work made of him and keep it in the changing room with a tape recording constantly playing to keep the spirits up in the dressing room for all the players generations from now to be inspired?....*takes a breath* Life moves on...football moves on...Thats a fact. I'm just looking at things with an open mind. no but why you can have why not keep him? i dont see the point in selling him, its not like your squad needs dramatic changes. small things yes but if you lost JT Chelsea would lose out. Edited February 23, 2009 by SempreJuve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diskoviolente 425 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Besides his leading abilitys it is nescessary to keep him because younger players need to be built around some older players. In Chelseas case for me these are Lampard and Terry.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Cee 50 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 whether they could go back up or not isnt the point, the fact is there are still players that play or the shirt. and whether they could not go back up to serie a is not the point, del piero even stated he would go down to serie c with juve if he had to. im sure players like buffon who are now earning 5-6mil couldnt go to another club and get much much more? but why doesnt he? he must love the club,no? Not really. And why is it not the point? Take away ALL of the money Buffon & Del Piero have and donate it to the needy and get them to play for free, then I'll believe they plays for the shirt. Otherwise, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesthetic Relic 301 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 its npt like your squad needs dramatic changes. small things yes but if you lost JT Chelsea would lose out. Dramatic changes we do need. We need to freshen things up, to do that we might need to sell a top player to bring in the cash as RA seems adamant that we need to sell before we can buy. I know we've heard that if the right player becomes available then RA will provide the funds, but I think you could also say if the right bid came in for any player we'd sell. Obviously we'd miss his presence on the pitch, but as I keep saying, its not the end of the world and we'll have to move on one day without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Not really. And why is it not the point? Take away ALL of the money Buffon & Del Piero have and donate it to the needy and get them to play for free, then I'll believe they plays for the shirt. Otherwise, no. well thats just stupid im not saying anyone will pay for free as you need money. but im saying there still are loyal players that genuinely love the shirt. to say players that would play for free is stupid as no one would make there profession one that doesnt pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Dramatic changes we do need. We need to freshen things up, to do that we might need to sell a top player to bring in the cash as RA seems adamant that we need to sell before we can buy. I know we've heard that if the right player becomes available then RA will provide the funds, but I think you could also say if the right bid came in for any player we'd sell. Obviously we'd miss his presence on the pitch, but as I keep saying, its not the end of the world and we'll have to move on one day without him. im saying it would be a mistake to sell J.T. when you could sell others that would amount to a decent amount also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Cee 50 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 well thats just stupid im not saying anyone will pay for free as you need money. but im saying there still are loyal players that genuinely love the shirt. to say players that would play for free is stupid as no one would make there profession one that doesnt pay. They could get other jobs. I mean, how long do they train each day? And they only play for around 180 mins a week at most. And that isn't all the time, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 They could get other jobs. I mean, how long do they train each day? And they only play for around 180 mins a week at most. And that isn't all the time, too. look you obviously arent understanding what im trying to say. this is just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesthetic Relic 301 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 im saying it would be a mistake to sell J.T. when you could sell others that would amount to a decent amount also. Maybe, maybe not, but you're not going to get someone come in with a £60m bid for Malouda for example. Now that would be insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Cee 50 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 look you obviously arent understanding what im trying to say. this is just stupid. I know what you're saying. You're saying there are big players who genuinely love the club and I said I don't believe it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SempreJuve 62 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Maybe, maybe not, but you're not going to get someone come in with a £60m bid for Malouda for example. Now that would be insane no but malouda + deco + ballack and others could get close. I know what you're saying. You're saying there are big players who genuinely love the club and I said I don't believe it... everyone is entitled to there opinion i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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