🇨🇴 Radamel Falcao

[Hutcho 8,443]

Cheers mate.

It's media talk or it's legitimate and confirmed?

Thats the numbers i always here, i assume it is legit, but if its not then its worldwide media talk as thats what they all seem to say it is.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I didn't even say we should add Falcao in the summer because i'm starting to think he won't end up here. It always happens with Chelsea, with the exception of Hazard.

Anyway according to the media, it is the summer that is most likely for him to leave, after helping Atleti get a CL place - so it makes more sense to wait for then, no?

Not to the third party group that own Falcao's rights. When Atleti sold Aguero to City the money went straight to the tax man. The money they used to prize Falcao was from a third party group they are clearly the people trying to drive this thing through before the summer. His value will never be higher than it is now.

Its not a certainty but with Sturridge going out I would really doubt we would just use the money from that transaction to get another back up striker. It makes more sense we go big now and grab Falcao! If you were told at the beginning of the year you could trade Falcao for Sturridge and £36M would you do it? I certainly would.

Get Falcao to push Torres recall Lukaku for next year. Done.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Not to the third party group that own Falcao's rights. When Atleti sold Aguero to City the money went straight to the tax man. The money they used to prize Falcao was from a third party group they are clearly the people trying to drive this thing through before the summer. His value will never be higher than it is now.

Its not a certainty but with Sturridge going out I would really doubt we would just use the money from that transaction to get another back up striker. It makes more sense we go big now and grab Falcao! If you were told at the beginning of the year you could trade Falcao for Sturridge and £36M would you do it? I certainly would.

Get Falcao to push Torres recall Lukaku for next year. Done.

Not just another striker, but also a midfielder since we will be without Mikel, and have Romeu injured.

Anyway if we do sign Falcao, we will be the only team with 2 strikers that cost 98m? lol other clubs build good teams with less than that.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Not just another striker, but also a midfielder since we will be without Mikel, and have Romeu injured.

Anyway if we do sign Falcao, we will be the only team with 2 strikers that cost 98m? lol other clubs build good teams with less than that.

I really think Luiz can play in the midfield. I really do! We can also recall Essien...

Mate... We can't let the bust that is Torres keep us from meeting our club ambitions. He was a massive waste of money but in order to get back to elite status we need to take it and move on.

If we could get Falcao for Sturridge and 36M you wouldn't do it? given what you know about the situation we're in now? wow.

[Sheva. 5,373]

I really think Luiz can play in the midfield. I really do! We can also recall Essien...

Mate... We can't let the bust that is Torres keep us from meeting our club ambitions. He was a massive waste of money but in order to get back to elite status we need to take it and move on.

If we could get Falcao for Sturridge and 36M you wouldn't do it? given what you know about the situation we're in now? wow.

Essien is done, i don't see a future for him here, and even if he returns, he's not good enough imo.

Luiz can play in midfield i'll give you that, but i would still like to have another midfielder added on the cheap.

And as for situation we're in - all i know is we have a team that can create chances but a striker that loves missing, we don't need 48m to fix this

[Leif 6,006]

Part of the reason I want Falcao is for his celebrations.

Torres's little 'celebration' when he scores is a little look down to the ground, sticking his index fingers out, shaking them, and what looks like muttering something to himself. Not exactly going to pump the crowd up that, is it?

Falcao on the other-hand looks like he's about to go all "SPARTAAAAAA!!!!" etc. Falcao could pump up a crowd of 90 year old women if he wanted.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

Essien is done, i don't see a future for him here, and even if he returns, he's not good enough imo.

Luiz can play in midfield i'll give you that, but i would still like to have another midfielder added on the cheap.

And as for situation we're in - all i know is we have a team that can create chances but a striker that loves missing, we don't need 48m to fix this

You're avoiding the question. Is Sturridge (perhaps with performance add ons) and £36M a decent price to pay for the World's best striker?

Keep in mind we're looking for players for 2 positions. We have Oscar, Ramires, Lamps, Essien, Luiz and Mikel(he misses 4 games for ACON) competing for two positions, its not THAT bad when you throw Luiz in the midfield.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

I find it ironic that you're defending the Torres purchase and battering a Falcao bid... Hahaha anyways.

So a year and a half before purchase isn't enough of a sample size for you? August 2009 till January 2011? Isn't this supposed to have some pertinent meaning as to what form he was in the leading up to the purchase? We all know that once upon a time he was a great striker but given the poor form and the injury it made little sense. How far back do you want to go? And at what point is it relevant to his form before purchase by Chelsea? in 2008-09 Michael Owen scored 14 goals in 29 games, a pretty decent return should we be looking at that with reference to buying a striker? The key word is BEFORE he joined us recent history of a year and a half is enough for me and the fact the trend continued nearly two years into his time here is also evidence.

You really think that Chelsea didn't show up for the Super Cup? given what you've seen this year you still believe that? I don't but at any rate I'll concede that his hat trick against us in a cup final is miniscule to Torres' two against us... What about the other 52 goals he's scored? LOL. Even if you give Torres his wack community Shield goal his record pales in comparison to Falcao. And I'm sorry two goals against Genk in the Champions league vs. two goals in the finals of the Europa league doesn't even come close, if you think it does we should end the convo now.

And no its not the same as any big name striker simply because you're ignoring the volume of goals scored. Falcao scores bushels of goals against big clubs, in big games and also small clubs, to put it frank, he just scores! And what is the 'etc.' of big teams Torres scored against? Stoke city, Portsmouth? give it a rest bro! there is no comparison to Falcao when we're talking about Torres. None.

Maybe I'm so adamantly against Torres because I was indeed one person who NEVER wanted him at the time of purchase! NOT ONE SECOND! whether you choose to believe me or not is your prerogative but its the god's honest truth! I watched him during the World cup and he looked so slow, his movement was non-existent and it carried over into the start of the season with Liverpool and never really got better. I hear what you say about FFP and if it fails we're in a massive hole, but what if it works? What if Falcao just continues to be in form Falcao? The amount of goals don't really matter to me its the weight! For instance Didier didn't do a whole lot of scoring last year but the ones he did get you could say counted like three. That is why I want Falcao the guy is a match winner not a pile on goalscorer like Torres is. If you can find a better, more in form striker that is available for cheaper I will back it 100% but don't say we don't need Falcao and through out the names Holt, Ba and Villa in his place! That's ridiculous...

You completely missed what I wrote. I am not defending Torres. He has been horrible for us, a complete bust. I am defending reality. At the time Torres was considered a top striker and you're pretending that he wasn't.

The point is not that 1.5 years is not "enough" for me, that point is that the 1.5 year period is specifically only chosen because it makes the author look correct. If you want to say "how did Torres do against big clubs at Liverpool", you look at how Torres did against big clubs (which was actually pretty well) not just for 1.5 years. Everyone thought Torres looked slower in the World Cup because he was coming off surgery. It was like thinking Drogba looked slower because he had malaria. Well, yeah. It takes time to get better and he did get better. In his last 15 Premier League games with Liverpool, he scored 8 goals. The normal reaction to that was "hey, he's finally getting his legs back".

And yes, scoring against Stoke is not the easiest thing. It's another thing the article misses. At any given time, there are a handful (maybe 5) teams in the Premier League who are pushovers. Teams like Liverpool, Swansea, Fulham, and Newcastle are mid-table and below but still have a lot of quality and internationals. No other league in the world has anything close to that. And wanting Demba Ba or Holt or whoever is not ridiculous. It's called value. Demba Ba has a 7M pound release clause. He has scored 34 goals in 63 Premier League games. For what it would take to get Falcao, Chelsea could get something like Ba (7), Moutinho (28.5), and Coentrao (12M) or any other number of combinations that would improve our club much more than just one striker.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Part of the reason I want Falcao is for his celebrations.

Torres's little 'celebration' when he scores is a little look down to the ground, sticking his index fingers out, shaking them, and what looks like muttering something to himself. Not exactly going to pump the crowd up that, is it?

Falcao on the other-hand looks like he's about to go all "SPARTAAAAAA!!!!" etc. Falcao could pump up a crowd of 90 year old women if he wanted.

:lol: i said it before, his celebration is awesome. I like players who show so much passion when they score. Like this guy:

[Hutcho 8,443]

Part of the reason I want Falcao is for his celebrations.

Torres's little 'celebration' when he scores is a little look down to the ground, sticking his index fingers out, shaking them, and what looks like muttering something to himself. Not exactly going to pump the crowd up that, is it?

Falcao on the other-hand looks like he's about to go all "SPARTAAAAAA!!!!" etc. Falcao could pump up a crowd of 90 year old women if he wanted.

Yeah... THIS IS CHELSEA! BANG!

[Sheva. 5,373]

You're avoiding the question. Is Sturridge (perhaps with performance add ons) and £36M a decent price to pay for the World's best striker?

Keep in mind we're looking for players for 2 positions. We have Oscar, Ramires, Lamps, Essien, Luiz and Mikel(he misses 4 games for ACON) competing for two positions, its not THAT bad when you throw Luiz in the midfield.

It is. But i just think atm that money can be better used on multiple players, than just one.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

You completely missed what I wrote. I am not defending Torres. He has been horrible for us, a complete bust. I am defending reality. At the time Torres was considered a top striker and you're pretending that he wasn't.

The point is not that 1.5 years is not "enough" for me, that point is that the 1.5 year period is specifically only chosen because it makes the author look correct. If you want to say "how did Torres do against big clubs at Liverpool", you look at how Torres did against big clubs (which was actually pretty well) not just for 1.5 years. Everyone thought Torres looked slower in the World Cup because he was coming off surgery. It was like thinking Drogba looked slower because he had malaria. Well, yeah. It takes time to get better and he did get better. In his last 15 Premier League games with Liverpool, he scored 8 goals. The normal reaction to that was "hey, he's finally getting his legs back".

And yes, scoring against Stoke is not the easiest thing. It's another thing the article misses. At any given time, there are a handful (maybe 5) teams in the Premier League who are pushovers. Teams like Liverpool, Swansea, Fulham, and Newcastle are mid-table and below but still have a lot of quality and internationals. No other league in the world has anything close to that. And wanting Demba Ba or Holt or whoever is not ridiculous. It's called value. Demba Ba has a 7M pound release clause. He has scored 34 goals in 63 Premier League games. For what it would take to get Falcao, Chelsea could get something like Ba (7), Moutinho (28.5), and Coentrao (12M) or any other number of combinations that would improve our club much more than just one striker.

You've lost the plot mate...

I'm not willing to go back and forth with a guy that thinks Real will sell Coentrao for 12M and Porto's Moutinho is worth 28.5M.... And that buying Ba who is a bandaged up striker who is one Cattermole tackle from the glue factory is a decent striker to challenge the likes of the Mancs and the rest of the world beaters. What a joke.

I'm gonna put this to you as well, if you were told at the beginning of the year we could have Falcao for Sturridge and £36M would you do it?

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[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

You've lost the plot mate...

I'm not willing to go back and forth with a guy that thinks Real will sell Coentrao for 12M and Porto's Moutinho is worth 28.5M.... And that buying Ba who is a bandaged up striker who is one Cattermole tackle from the glue factory is a decent striker to challenge the likes of the Mancs and the rest of the world beaters. What a joke.

I'm gonna put this to you as well, if you were told at the beginning of the year we could have Falcao for Sturridge and £36M would you do it?

That's not the way it works. If we sell Sturridge (very likely), it means we have 12M pounds to spend. It doesn't mean that if we bought Coentrao for 12M, we'd get him for free. (Moutinho is probably not worth 28.5, but that's his clause). You have a Falcao fetish.You think he can't fail. He can. Anyone can.

[Leif 6,006]

[Kieran. 6,317]

He's also following Phil Neville. Falcao to Everton!

[Kojo 4,676]

Usually when the rumours are so big like really really really huge and we all think it's impossible that they wont come, they usually don't. Just like Hulk and Modric, they to me seemed like already done deals before the rumours even cameby. Falcao is looking that way now, i have a bit of a feeling it wont happen. But then again i don't like that fee we will have to pay, infact i haven't liked that for ages. But looking at Torres, it just... i don't know it makes that fee look smaller.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

That's not the way it works. If we sell Sturridge (very likely), it means we have 12M pounds to spend. It doesn't mean that if we bought Coentrao for 12M, we'd get him for free. (Moutinho is probably not worth 28.5, but that's his clause). You have a Falcao fetish.You think he can't fail. He can. Anyone can.

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!??! That is precisely how it works! money in on transfers is used to fund incoming transfers... We sell assets to fund the acquisition of other assets!

And yes I do have a Falcao fetish, I like players who score bushels of goals particularly for my club... It can most certainly go sour but the likelihood is lessened when you look at the type of player he is and how long he's been on top of his game. Low bust potential IMO.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

Torres's little 'celebration' when he scores is a little look down to the ground, sticking his index fingers out, shaking them, and what looks like muttering something to himself. Not exactly going to pump the crowd up that, is it?

That's probably because he only ever scores when we're already 3 or 4 goals up.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!??! That is precisely how it works! money in on transfers is used to fund incoming transfers... We sell assets to fund the acquisition of other assets!

And yes I do have a Falcao fetish, I like players who score bushels of goals particularly for my club... It can most certainly go sour but the likelihood is lessened when you look at the type of player he is and how long he's been on top of his game. Low bust potential IMO.

No, it's not how it works at all. If a TV costs $1,000 and you sell your old X-Box for $100, does the TV cost $900? No. It still costs $1,000. You just sold something else to get money to help you afford the TV. It doesn't make the TV any cheaper. It's like those Liverpool supporters who claim getting Andy Carroll was good business because it was Torres for Carroll and 15M pounds.Well, Liverpool had 50M pounds and they could have spent it any way they wanted. If we sell Sturridge for 12M pounds, we'll have 12M pounds to spend. We could spend it anywhere. It doesn't make any transfer cheaper or better value. Falcao is going to cost 48M pounds. That would make him, the 6th highest transfer (adjusting for inflation) ever. Chelsea could sell five players and it wouldn't change that. If Chelsea have 50M pounds to spend, they'd be much better off spreading it around in a few areas of need. Falcao does have a low bust potential but he has a high potential for not being worth what we would have to pay. Chelsea would be paying close to 20M pounds every year for Falcao (in amortized transfer payments and wages). To be worth what we would be paying him, Falcao would have to be just about the best striker in the world every year. The chances of that happening are slim.