haranr 485 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 assassination is wrong and condemnable, but his approach was suicide. His ratings in polls at the time suggest vast majority were against him. 50 50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Thank you israel for treating wounded syrians who are victims of their own opressive leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 50 50this was your peace partner in any comprimise with good and evil, evil wins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Mods should lock this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Mods should lock this. Why.. no one has been name calling anyone......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 PEACE won't be achieved. There is too much hatred between the sides. This is my conclusion. I am sorry mate, Peace can be achieved. It is the WILL that is lacking here. Egypt went to war with Isreal in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and we achieved peace and took our land that was invaded in 1967. We have trade between and agreements. You come to my country and we go to yours. If people don't like each other then we still have peace. Like you said before in a forum you have Muslim friends and like I said I have Jewish friends. So it can be achievedif Palestinians were rational and not motivated by radical islam among other things than two states and returns are possible. But not until an intellectual revolution of accepting diversity and tolarence on a politcal level will that ever happen. However I am optimistic. Bunch of Palestinians in west bank now come to Israeli schools and build start ups together. This is what build peace. What makes you think that you are in any position to define rationality. It is all relevant as you probably should know being from a multicultural country. It is about compromises and negotiations and benefits. It should be about mutual benefit too. Radical Islam is a problem and found in Hamas. But what about before the existence of Hamas, Palestinians didn't have the radical Muslims incharge? very week argument. No offense.......................... I was replaying about the way you put it like the only leader who wanted peace was Rabin. We had a lot of leaders who wanted peace but didn't agree to lose so much. NOBODY LEGTIMIZE HIS ASSASSINATION HERE IN ISRAEL 99 PRECENT.Don't know why it offended you, but I made it clear that I mean nothing personally. No leader in Israel has attempted any REAL peace. How can they if they are just progressing with the settlements?! Very contradicting in my opinion. They are expanding and expecting the Palestinians to be happy??!!!!!!! Well you. yourself said you are against it. Peace doesn't come with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This guy used to be an anti-israel activist than saw the light. So can you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I am sorry mate, Peace can be achieved. It is the WILL that is lacking here. Egypt went to war with Isreal in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and we achieved peace and took our land that was invaded in 1967. We have trade between and agreements. You come to my country and we go to yours. If people don't like each other then we still have peace. Like you said before in a forum you have Muslim friends and like I said I have Jewish friends. So it can be achievedWhat makes you think that you are in any position to define rationality. It is all relevant as you probably should know being from a multicultural country. It is about compromises and negotiations and benefits. It should be about mutual benefit too. Radical Islam is a problem and found in Hamas. But what about before the existence of Hamas, Palestinians didn't have the radical Muslims incharge? very week argument. No offenseDon't know why it offended you, but I made it clear that I mean nothing personally. No leader in Israel has attempted any REAL peace. How can they if they are just progressing with the settlements?! Very contradicting in my opinion. They are expanding and expecting the Palestinians to be happy??!!!!!!! Well you. yourself said you are against it. Peace doesn't come with it.Oh really if that were the case palestians arabs would of accepted the 1948 partion plan which had more than land than what is being proposed today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haranr 485 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I am sorry mate, Peace can be achieved. It is the WILL that is lacking here. Egypt went to war with Isreal in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and we achieved peace and took our land that was invaded in 1967. We have trade between and agreements. You come to my country and we go to yours. If people don't like each other then we still have peace. Like you said before in a forum you have Muslim friends and like I said I have Jewish friends. So it can be achievedWhat makes you think that you are in any position to define rationality. It is all relevant as you probably should know being from a multicultural country. It is about compromises and negotiations and benefits. It should be about mutual benefit too. Radical Islam is a problem and found in Hamas. But what about before the existence of Hamas, Palestinians didn't have the radical Muslims incharge? very week argument. No offenseDon't know why it offended you, but I made it clear that I mean nothing personally. No leader in Israel has attempted any REAL peace. How can they if they are just progressing with the settlements?! Very contradicting in my opinion. They are expanding and expecting the Palestinians to be happy??!!!!!!! Well you. yourself said you are against it. Peace doesn't come with it.Peace can be achieved if the had a real leader they would follow but they never had and probably never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I am sorry mate, Peace can be achieved. It is the WILL that is lacking here. Egypt went to war with Isreal in 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973 and we achieved peace and took our land that was invaded in 1967. We have trade between and agreements. You come to my country and we go to yours. If people don't like each other then we still have peace. Like you said before in a forum you have Muslim friends and like I said I have Jewish friends. So it can be achievedWhat makes you think that you are in any position to define rationality. It is all relevant as you probably should know being from a multicultural country. It is about compromises and negotiations and benefits. It should be about mutual benefit too. Radical Islam is a problem and found in Hamas. But what about before the existence of Hamas, Palestinians didn't have the radical Muslims incharge? very week argument. No offenseDon't know why it offended you, but I made it clear that I mean nothing personally. No leader in Israel has attempted any REAL peace. How can they if they are just progressing with the settlements?! Very contradicting in my opinion. They are expanding and expecting the Palestinians to be happy??!!!!!!! Well you. yourself said you are against it. Peace doesn't come with it.http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/PA-Answer-To-Peace-Offers-Billboard_7_2012-620x304.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 this story ended up being a complete lie. see here http://elderofziyon.blogspot.co.il/2014/03/the-lies-about-palestinian-footballers.html other news sources have confirmed as well. Is there anything the anti jew crowd here on tc won't make up to try and delegitmize the only moral state in the middle east? asking for a friend.. Thank you.I said it from the beginning, the truth is what matters the most. And now seeing a media that would create a false story like that, then it shows there is an agenda against Israel. People who brings news about Israel and Palestinian have to be very careful with what they bring. There's a lot of sensationalism going on with such topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Tel aviv voted most gay friendly city in world http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2088319/Tel-Aviv-trumps-New-York-named-worlds-best-gay-city.html Lets talk about gays in arab countries? Oh wait..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Oh really if that were the case palestians arabs would of accepted the 1948 partion plan which had more than land than what is being proposed today. He should answer you very well By the way he is a Jew and his parents were put through the misery of the Holocaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 relatively new mosque on israels cost line http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/PikiWiki_Israel_13519_Kababir_Mosque.jpg Mosque in south syria http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/25/article-2314459-1976A597000005DC-495_964x617.jpgSo muslims kill muslims in syria, not much reaction from tc commmunity.But an israeli allegely shoots at feet at people causing trouble at a border place which turns out to be false and tc anti israel crowd go into full meltdown mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Why.. no one has been name calling anyone.........Because it is in no way - nor in its intention - a debate, an exchange of ideas. It is just derogation of the outgroup, which never leads to truth, only to further polarisation - check the entire social psychology research in the 60-70-80's. I am serious btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He should answer you very well By the way he is a Jew and his parents were put through the misery of the HolocaustLOL filkerstein is a pseudo intellectual who is a self hating jew. Hes a communist and hates self interest and hatred of the good for being the good. This guy has zero credibility. If you really seek the truth about events leading up to 1948 go read palestine betrayed. It documents village by village what happens and concludes arabs(most egyptians) are to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 He should answer you very well By the way he is a Jew and his parents were put through the misery of the HolocaustPalestine pre 48 was an administrive region under british rule(jews and arabs lived there). Never was it an indepedent arab state. http://ari.aynrand.org/blog/2013/06/07/the-arab-israel-conflict-and-the-palestinian-refugees-podcast-episode-6 here is a 48 minute podcast on some real historical accuracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Palestine pre 48 was an administrive region under british rule(jews and arabs lived there). Never was it an indepedent arab state. http://ari.aynrand.org/blog/2013/06/07/the-arab-israel-conflict-and-the-palestinian-refugees-podcast-episode-6 here is a 48 minute podcast on some real historical accuracy. Naaa Finklestien is a very credible person. Apparently you haven't heard him or hear hi reply to your question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonlol 154 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Naaa Finklestien is a very credible person. Apparently you haven't heard him or hear hi reply to your question thats why in the u.s and canada hes dubbed the anti semites favourite jew. All serious poli sci professors denounce him. Put in your own writing(you can take his argument) down here and ill counter it. Naaa Finklestien is a very credible person. Apparently you haven't heard him or hear hi reply to your question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mohammed Seif 1,451 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 thats why in the u.s and canada hes dubbed the anti semites favourite jew. All serious poli sci professors denounce him. Put in your own writing(you can take his argument) down here and ill counter it. Counter what he said then if you can. But you can't? Or you don't want to listen maybe?There is no surprise than the U.S would denounce him. And it makes perfect sense that Canada does too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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