🇧🇪 Charly Musonda Jr.

[Styles 9,790]

Just some childish social media messages whining why RLC and Brown were getting chances and not him. And he's gone and done it again indirectly now by with his retweets.

Oh.

I don't think he's going to be a Chelsea player for much longer anyway - as @chelseayouth alluded to earlier Musonda thinks highly enough of himself (and rightly so to be fair) so is unlikely to get caught up in the Chelsea loan game / system. He'll be gone sooner rather than later.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Oh.

I don't think he's going to be a Chelsea player for much longer anyway - as @chelseayouth alluded to earlier Musonda thinks highly enough of himself (and rightly so to be fair) so is unlikely to get caught up in the Chelsea loan game / system. He'll be gone sooner rather than later.

Ability alone is never enough. Josh McEachran is the biggest proof of that. If he doesn't get his attitude sorted out he won't amount to anything here or anywhere else.

[bethos1 802]

Regardless of Moses, his attitude has shown that mentally he's still far from ready to be given a chance in the first team.

If he's going to act like child, then he will do preseason with the kids...

Imo it really wasn't as bad as you make it look like, sure he should have kept his mouth shut but I can see why he was so disappointed. I'd be incredibly disappointed as well if someone like Brown got his debut before I did, especially when you're the better player.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Imo it really wasn't as bad as you make it look like, sure he should have kept his mouth shut but I can see why he was so disappointed. I'd be incredibly disappointed as well if someone like Brown got his debut before I did, especially when you're the better player.

That mentality does not belong in a team sport like football.

Now put yourself in Brown's shoes and think how Musonda's posts would have made him feel and what tension that would have created between the two in the dressing room.

Any youngster with the proper mentality to make it at the top level deals with the situation very simply: Encourage your friend who has been given the chance, try to be happy for him, work harder in training to get your own chance.

Anything else means you're not ready to be anywhere near the first team.

[Shakez 755]

Imo it really wasn't as bad as you make it look like, sure he should have kept his mouth shut but I can see why he was so disappointed. I'd be incredibly disappointed as well if someone like Brown got his debut before I did, especially when you're the better player.

Funny thing is though, they already shipped Brown to Vitesse. Tbh, even if he got the same chances as Brown and Solanke, he would've gotten loaned anyway.

[Shakez 755]

That mentality does not belong in a team sport like football.

Now put yourself in Brown's shoes and think how Musonda's posts would have made him feel and what tension that would have created between the two in the dressing room.

Any youngster with the proper mentality to make it at the top level deals with the situation very simply: Encourage your friend who has been given the chance, try to be happy for him, work harder in training to get your own chance.

Anything else means you're not ready to be anywhere near the first team.

Tbh, i don't think he was targetting Brown (or Solanke). He probably just felt that his hard work wasn't recognised. Saying it on social media was a stupid move though.

[bethos1 802]

That mentality does not belong in a team sport like football.

Now put yourself in Brown's shoes and think how Musonda's posts would have made him feel and what tension that would have created between the two in the dressing room.

Any youngster with the proper mentality to make it at the top level deals with the situation very simply: Encourage your friend who has been given the chance, try to be happy for him, work harder in training to get your own chance.

Anything else means you're not ready to be anywhere near the first team.

I really doubt his comments were made against Brown, he probably just felt like he also deserved to be given a chance in that game (imo he deserved it more). Who says he didn't encourage Brown for his chance? He probably did and he has every right to be disappointed in not being given a chance, he just made the mistake of showing that disappointment in a stupid Instagram post.

The kid really isn't such a whiny brat as some are making it look like, every interview I've seen of him makes him look like a pretty normal kid who likes to play football and will do everything to become a great player.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Tbh, i don't think he was targetting Brown (or Solanke). He probably just felt that his hard work wasn't recognised. Saying it on social media was a stupid move though.

I really doubt his comments were made against Brown, he probably just felt like he also deserved to be given a chance in that game (imo he deserved it more). Who says he didn't encourage Brown for his chance? He probably did and he has every right to be disappointed in not being given a chance, he just made the mistake of showing that disappointment in a stupid Instagram post.

The kid really isn't such a whiny brat as some are making it look like, every interview I've seen of him makes him look like a pretty normal kid who likes to play football and will do everything to become a great player.

Regardless, that's how it would have come across.

No, he doesn't 'have every right' to demand first team football, and neither do any of those youth players. None of them has actually done or accomplished anything in football. They all have EVERYTHING to prove.

I have absolutely no idea what Musonda is like personally but what I've seen from him on social media is frankly not very encouraging, especially that he didn't learn the first time and acted childishly again by making those retweets today.

[bethos1 802]

Regardless, that's how it would have come across.

No, he doesn't 'have every right' to demand first team football, and neither do any of those youth players. None of them has actually done or accomplished anything in football. They all have EVERYTHING to prove.

I have absolutely no idea what Musonda is like personally but what I've seen from him on social media is frankly not very encouraging, especially that he didn't learn the first time and acted childishly again by making those retweets today.

It didn't look like he directed it to Brown for me, I doubt Brown even took it that way.

Wouldn't you be disappointed if you saw someone else given a chance and you didn't after you had a pretty good season? I'd personnally be very very disappointed. I'm not at all saying that he has every right to demand first team football, I'm just saying he has every right to be disappointed.

[Stingray 9,441]

Regardless, that's how it would have come across.

No, he doesn't 'have every right' to demand first team football, and neither do any of those youth players. None of them has actually done or accomplished anything in football. They all have EVERYTHING to prove.

I have absolutely no idea what Musonda is like personally but what I've seen from him on social media is frankly not very encouraging, especially that he didn't learn the first time and acted childishly again by making those retweets today.

Hes actually quite down to earth tbh, but he has this fire burning. He always had - even in Anderlecht. We should be very caring fathers. The boy reaaaally wants to play top flight. Plus .... He can pull it off. Sharmoetah, judgement call here, but he will be the next Eden. Only with more ambition [emoji33]

[Weckerz 3,781]

In any case, we should be nurturing our best academy players, not ditching them for expressing disappointment on Twitter. They're kids, they'll have plenty time to develop a professional attutude, i think it's retarded how people judge them based on social media posts.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

It didn't look like he directed it to Brown for me, I doubt Brown even took it that way.

Wouldn't you be disappointed if you saw someone else given a chance and you didn't after you had a pretty good season? I'd personnally be very very disappointed. I'm not at all saying that he has every right to demand first team football, I'm just saying he has every right to be disappointed.

No, I really honestly wouldn't. I've been in similar situations when I played basketball for my uni and a local club, and when you're really of the team, you don't think about for a second. You support your team and teammates wholeheartedly.

Hes actually quite down to earth tbh, but he has this fire burning. He always had - even in Anderlecht. We should be very caring fathers. The boy reaaaally wants to play top flight. Plus .... He can pull it off. Sharmoetah, judgement call here, but he will be the next Eden. Only with more ambition [emoji33]

He certainly has the talent, which means we should be much tougher to make sure that he also has the mentality and doesn't throw all the talent away.

[iseah100 5,612]

In any case, we should be nurturing our best academy players, not ditching them for expressing disappointment on Twitter. They're kids, they'll have plenty time to develop a professional attutude, i think it's retarded how people judge them based on social media posts.

Right, he's 18 ffs. I was 18, probably more recently than most on here, and he didn't do anythi wrong imo.

[bethos1 802]

No, I really honestly wouldn't. I've been in similar situations when I played basketball for my uni and a local club, and when you're really of the team, you don't think about for a second. You support your team and teammates wholeheartedly.

He certainly has the talent, which means we should be much tougher to make sure that he also has the mentality and doesn't throw all the talent away.

Well imo you can still fully support the team and be disappointed at the same time, I don't really see what's wrong with being disappointed, it just shows he really wants to show what he can do. Ofcourse he should just keep it for himself but I personally can completely understand him being disappointed, it doesn't bother me at all.

[Stingray 9,441]

No, I really honestly wouldn't. I've been in similar situations when I played basketball for my uni and a local club, and when you're really of the team, you don't think about for a second. You support your team and teammates wholeheartedly.

He certainly has the talent, which means we should be much tougher to make sure that he also has the mentality and doesn't throw all the talent away.

I think we should be much better coaching him Chou Chou. Being much tougher is what right wingers do. The entire belgian concept has been around people coaching- man management. Even taking out the competition element all together. Im a friend of Henk Mariman in Belgium which I advised on training related to developmental/genetic progress, eg. Young guns from 10-15 need a LOT of techincal, close football training (the belgians will know) and we adhere an evidence based matter on training youngsters.

In other countries, this isn't really happening. It is not a coincidence Belgium is farting talent. Some think it is a freak generation. It isn't. Its about coaching young guns. Mou is right. Yes he is. But on youngsters, my vote is OXI.

[lionsden 4,689]

An 18 year old who is constantly overlooked in favour of clearly less talented and less deserving teammate (RLC and Brown in particular) is disappointed. Whats the issue?. Its just basic human nature. Virtually every single player in his position, regardless of age and maturity, will feel exactly the same way. They may not express it publicly like musonda did and might even sport fake smiles and demonstrate fake sportsmanship but deep down inside, they will all feel exactly the same because they are humans with feelings and emotions. So his only crime is for being real instead of being fake.

This would have been a problem if he wasnt /isn't arguably our best youth player withbgreat work ethic on and off the pitch. Then his actions would be classed as delusional and self entitled then but it's not. He deserves his spot on the team just as much as any other youth player, if not more, period

[Gilvorak 3,734]

He'll be gone anyway. Wenger loves the kid apparently, he'll get chances there.

[Mechromancer 262]

I'm so tired of this guy. He just have 18 years and wants a place in a TOP squad. And that's not gonna happen. If he doesn't have a chance, maybe is because he doesn't deserve a chance.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I think we should be much better coaching him Chou Chou. Being much tougher is what right wingers do. The entire belgian concept has been around people coaching- man management. Even taking out the competition element all together. Im a friend of Henk Mariman in Belgium which I advised on training related to developmental/genetic progress, eg. Young guns from 10-15 need a LOT of techincal, close football training (the belgians will know) and we adhere an evidence based matter on training youngsters.

In other countries, this isn't really happening. It is not a coincidence Belgium is farting talent. Some think it is a freak generation. It isn't. Its about coaching young guns. Mou is right. Yes he is. But on youngsters, my vote is OXI.

Problem is that is the exact opposite 'philosophy' for youth development in England. It would be difficult to change it, imo.

[bethos1 802]

He'll be gone anyway. Wenger loves the kid apparently, he'll get chances there.

If we sell him to Arsenal we're definitely going to regret it and I'm going to be very pissed, he could easily get in our team in a few years, he's just as talented as Hazard if not more.