The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 So for everybody,bale is better than robben ?They're on the same level for me, because IMO Bale isn't on Messi/Ronaldo level. No one is. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 They're on the same level for me, because IMO Bale isn't on Messi/Ronaldo level. No one is.In term of stat yes but in term of impact in the game he's no far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 25, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted June 25, 2014 In term of stat yes but in term of impact in the game he's no far away.They are. Messi and Ronaldo basically highly impact games every game - Bale doesn't do it as consistently as either. No one is on their level or close to it IMO. iseah100, Belgiannutt, thedrog108 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 They are. Messi and Ronaldo basically highly impact games every game - Bale doesn't do it as consistently as either.No one is on their level or close to it IMO. you're right. to inconsistent but in the big game he can make the differrence. But like hazard he's young we must wait to see is full potential. Barbara and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 So for everybody,bale is better than robben ?Talent wise, I put robben under Messi and thats it. But, he's crazy +knucklehead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Talent wise, I put robben under Messi and thats it. But, he's crazy +knucklehead. LoL ! i think in his head he is the only one player on the field. Korea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I consider Hazard, Reus, Robben, Bale, Ribery (ok the guy has been poor recently) Di Maria and Alexis Sanchez to be the only true world class players (wingers). I don't consider guys like Neymar or Gotze to be on the same level (yet) as these players. I also don't see any of those guys being able to carry Chelsea the way Hazard did this past season. Maybe Bale, because he's done it before in the PL with Spurs. I just don't see a guy like Neymar being able to do that. He scores a couple of goals for Brazil and all of a sudden he's the best. As if club performances are not the bread and butter of evaluating a player's true level. Fickle, fickle, fickle. iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I really must be missing something about Bale because I just don't rate him that highly. He's an exceptional athlete with a good shot, but I consider him a supremely average footballer. sdrcfc, Gilvorak and Belgiannutt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I consider Hazard, Reus, Robben, Bale, Ribery (ok the guy has been poor recently) Di Maria and Alexis Sanchez to be the only true world class players (wingers). I don't consider guys like Neymar or Gotze to be on the same level (yet) as these players. I also don't see any of those guys being able to carry Chelsea the way Hazard did this past season. Maybe Bale, because he's done it before in the PL with Spurs. I just don't see a guy like Neymar being able to do that. He scores a couple of goals for Brazil and all of a sudden he's the best. As if club performances are not the bread and butter of evaluating a player's true level. Fickle, fickle, fickle. This. Neymar is nowhere near these guys, let alone Messi & Ronaldo. Reus and Bale are significantly better than him. Don't forget Zlatan on that list. And .....Suarez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I really must be missing something about Bale because I just don't rate him that highly. He's an exceptional athlete with a good shot, but I consider him a supremely average footballer.That's exactly how I used to think of him, until I watched last CL final.Unsurprisingly enough Ronaldo vanished and Bale was the player who made a difference. Yes, he missed an opportunity before equalizing, but kudos to him that he kept on trying.Bale is younger too and it was his first season in Spain. I don't think this is the best we are going to see from him.. Barbara and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Robben is clearly better than Bale and it's not debatable. Joker10, Styles, Madmax and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 This. Neymar is nowhere near these guys, let alone Messi & Ronaldo. Reus and Bale are significantly better than him.Don't forget Zlatan on that list. And .....Suarez.I was just talking about wide players alone though. Anyway, this entire conversation is becoming boring and it all stemmed from the "usual suspect" poster or two spouting their usual nonsense disguised as an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I really must be missing something about Bale because I just don't rate him that highly. He's an exceptional athlete with a good shot, but I consider him a supremely average footballer.He's a very average footballer yes. Terrible in tight spaces, average passer, average ball control, not a great dribbler & very one-footed.Bale is basically Theo Walcott on drugs. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Neymar is the 2nd most talented player in the World. The kid has no weaknesses at all.Is hating Neymar still a thing? Especially after last years Confederations Cup and the World Cup he's currently having? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 25, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted June 25, 2014 Neymar is the 2nd most talented player in the World. The kid has no weaknesses at all.Is hating Neymar still a thing? Especially after last years Confederations Cup and the World Cup he's currently having?No one is hating on Neymar... It's just people are saying ridiculous things like Neymar being the second most talented player in the world and him being the best player at the World Cup that people are scoffing at. Styles, Barbara, Madmax and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Robben is clearly better than Bale and it's not debatable.true.Robben is 30 and at the top of his game, whereas Bale is 24 and hardly there. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiannutt 3,201 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 That's exactly how I used to think of him, until I watched last CL final.Unsurprisingly enough Ronaldo vanished and Bale was the player who made a difference. Yes, he missed an opportunity before equalizing, but kudos to him that he kept on trying.Bale is younger too and it was his first season in Spain. I don't think this is the best we are going to see from him.. What ? He was poor in the CL final. he scored the goal but apart from that he didn't do much. The goal wasn't even a quality run or shot it was just a rebound.Dimaria and Modric were the ones who made the difference. Korea and Gilvorak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 What ? He was poor in the CL final. he scored the goal but apart from that he didn't do much. The goal wasn't even a quality run or shot it was just a rebound.Dimaria and Modric were the ones who made the difference.This goes back to personal preferences and all...But you can't say he only scored the goal... without that goal, which was hardly a tap in, they lose. In a low scoring game like football, scoring a goal, especially a difficult one, is huge! Which makes the players who can do that on their own, like Messi, invaluable. Barbara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korea 734 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 That's exactly how I used to think of him, until I watched last CL final.Unsurprisingly enough Ronaldo vanished and Bale was the player who made a difference. Yes, he missed an opportunity before equalizing, but kudos to him that he kept on trying.Bale is younger too and it was his first season in Spain. I don't think this is the best we are going to see from him..cr7 and bale both sucked in the final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted June 25, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted June 25, 2014 Neymar is the 2nd most talented player in the World. The kid has no weaknesses at all.Is hating Neymar still a thing? Especially after last years Confederations Cup and the World Cup he's currently having?First of all "2nd most talented player in the world" is a very subjective term and it's moot even trying to discuss it.Second, no weaknesses? Have you even watched him for Barcelona this past season. Easily brushed off the ball, pointless dribbles to no man's land, surprisingly poor shooting technique, marked out of games by average defenders etc and he doesn't even get double-marked like Hazard does for Chelsea. He was easily outperformed by Pedro and most especially Alexis last season. Saying he has no weaknesses is not subjective at all, it's just plain wrong. Read the barca forum and see the bull*** they gave Neymar last season for his poor performances..I don't think anybody hates him. He is just slighlty disliked for his petulant diving and the fact that he gets insanely overhyped by the media and you, in this case. iseah100, bababoom, Styles and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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